Pakistani Students Arrested in UK on terrorism charges

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

What evidence have the parents come out with that gives them a clean chit ?

I see you have picked up Solomon2's penchant for logical fallacies and now want the parents of the accused to prove a negative.

If the accused are guilty, it should become evident through a proper trial and conviction.

I wonder if you would trumpet so loudly if an Indian or Jew was arrested for such crimes.

People respond to events that concern them - its human nature. In this case the victims were Pakistani hence the vocalization of concerns.

 

[wtf]

If the accused are guilty, it should become evident through a proper trial and conviction.

Seems like there won't be a proper conclusion to this one. The arrests were forced when the police chief was photographed with documents relating to ongoing investigation, and authorities seem (claim) stuck without enough evidence.

Dawn is saying that they will be deported and not prosecuted.

DAWN.COM | World | Arrested Pakistani nationals to be deported: UK media

Not that Dawn has any insider information - they themselves are quoting Times Online
Pakistani 'terror plot suspects' to be deported rather than charged - Times Online

Interesting quotes
Operation Pathway, the codename for the inquiry, has already led to the resignation of Britain’s most senior anti-terrorist officer, Bob Quick, after he accidentally revealed details of the arrest plans to photographers in Downing Street.

The British wanted to be reassured that if some of these men were deported they would not face torture”

 

[Always Neutral]

I see you have picked up Solomon2's penchant for logical fallacies and now want the parents of the accused to prove a negative.

If the accused are guilty, it should become evident through a proper trial and conviction.


People respond to events that concern them - its human nature. In this case the victims were Pakistani hence the vocalization of concerns.

AM please don't pick and choose a word and then chew it out of context. I said lets all wait for the evidence. How many real criminals tell their parents that they are going to commit a crime ? Even the Indian Parents of the guy who tried to blow up glasgow airport refused to acknowledge his role even after video footage was shown.

How can we accept the Parents statement as a sign of their innocence?

Regards

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

How can we accept the Parents statement as a sign of their innocence?

Regards

Ahh - I see what your point was now, and its valid.

And I appreciate your position on the evidence determining guilt.

Apologize for the misunderstanding.

 

[sohailbutt]

guys can't we stick to the topic here, why does every one has to bring in RAW, CIA or any other entity for that matter.

As far as students being punished for being Pakistani's is just bullshit, Ive been here in London for some years now, and till now i haven't encountered a single problem with authorities.

You only get into trouble when you do something wrong, now i'm not saying that these students have done something wrong, it can be that they were arrested out of suspicion and may be released later on as one of the student already has been.

So chill out and let's see how the story progresses

 

[Always Neutral]

guys can't we stick to the topic here, why does every one has to bring in RAW, CIA or any other entity for that matter.

As far as students being punished for being Pakistani's is just bullshit, Ive been here in London for some years now, and till now i haven't encountered a single problem with authorities.

You only get into trouble when you do something wrong, now i'm not saying that these students have done something wrong, it can be that they were arrested out of suspicion and may be released later on as one of the student already has been.

So chill out and let's see how the story progresses

A voice of Sanity finally comes out aloud.

Regards

 

[roadrunner]

Only thing I can say is that you have lost the plot. Why would an Indian follow or approach a Pakistani in Uk ? Infact its hard to diffrentiate between an Indian, Pakistani or Bangladeshi here! Its obvious you have no clue of the Uk traffic jams which makes it mundane to follow anybody anywhere.

Anyway each to his own outlandish theory.

Regards

It's very easy to distinguish Pakistan, Indian, and Bangladeshi.

I haven't even seen you, and I know you're Indian.

I don't think Batman was so ludicrous as you and others are making out though.

We know that the tip off came from a foreign spy agency. It could have been ISI, or CIA, or RAW. So, in a way, there's a possibility of RAW involvementm in the sense it might have been RAW that gave the tip-off. But that is just a conspiracy, though only the right wing neocon fascist pigs would dismiss it outright.

I think the trouble now is they don't have the evidence, due to the mishap with the names.

Were they involved, weren't they. I hate to see innocent people treated in this way, but there is probably some recompense should they turn out to be innocent.

 

[godsavetheworld]

We know that the tip off came from a foreign spy agency. It could have been ISI, or CIA, or RAW. So, in a way, there's a possibility of RAW involvementm in the sense it might have been RAW that gave the tip-off. But that is just a conspiracy, though only the right wing neocon fascist pigs would dismiss it outright.

Nothing short of a RAW hand can ever be possible, right? How about the possibilty that they were being watched since they were Pakistanis?

 

[roadrunner]

Nothing short of a RAW hand can ever be possible, right? How about the possibilty that they were being watched since they were Pakistanis?

You're the only one who is trying desperately to dismiss that RAW could have been the "foreign intelligence agency" involved.

That is going against the evidence that we know, so if anyone is clutching at straws it is you by excluding RAW at all costs. It is one of three possibilities.

 

[Always Neutral]

It's very easy to distinguish Pakistan, Indian, and Bangladeshi.

I haven't even seen you, and I know you're Indian.

I don't think Batman was so ludicrous as you and others are making out though.

We know that the tip off came from a foreign spy agency. It could have been ISI, or CIA, or RAW. So, in a way, there's a possibility of RAW involvementm in the sense it might have been RAW that gave the tip-off. But that is just a conspiracy, though only the right wing neocon fascist pigs would dismiss it outright.

I think the trouble now is they don't have the evidence, due to the mishap with the names.

Were they involved, weren't they. I hate to see innocent people treated in this way, but there is probably some recompense should they turn out to be innocent.

Yes Mr. RR,

You are such a bore. Indians following Pakistanis in UK ? Fantasy land and xenophobia seem to be your contributions here. You just can't imagine Pakistanis doing anything wrong but unfortunately ur opinion is of no consequence.

If they are innocent they will be released and if they are guilty then will get a caress on the bottom Swati Girl style and sent home.

 

[roadrunner]

Yes Mr. RR,

You are such a bore. Indians following Pakistanis in UK ?

Indians following Pakistanis in the UK? No, read. Foreign intelligence agency = RAW = possible. It's simple isn't it?

Fantasy land and xenophobia seem to be your contributions here. You just can't imagine Pakistanis doing anything wrong but unfortunately ur opinion is of no consequence.

On the contrary. I can imagine many Pakistanis doing something wrong. Even some of the Think Tank on here make ludicrous statements that totally leave my gobsmacked from time to time. I believe I've said on several occasions that the people who are doing the attacks in Pakistan are a combination of Afghanis and Pakistanis, who are funded by some foreign agency. Those Pakistanis are doing wrong imo, though on the other hand, the drone strikes are wrong and giving fuel for their cause.

 

[godsavetheworld]

That is going against the evidence that we know, so if anyone is clutching at straws it is you by excluding RAW at all costs. It is one of three possibilities.

What undisputable evidence do you have other than an outright I-get-up-in-the-morning-and-I-know-RAW-did-it mentality?

 

[roadrunner]

What undisputable evidence do you have other than an outright I-get-up-in-the-morning-and-I-know-RAW-did-it mentality?

The fact every major news source said there was a tip off from a foreign agency that led to the arrests.

 

[Always Neutral]

The fact every major news source said there was a tip off from a foreign agency that led to the arrests.

Why not ISI ? Afterll we have good relations with them ?

Regards

 

[Always Neutral]

Indians following Pakistanis in the UK? No, read. Foreign intelligence agency = RAW = possible. It's simple isn't it?

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Its obvious you like to leap before you look. Batman said ordinary Indians like to follow ordinary Pakistani's in UK to mosques and then mislead them to commit stupid acts.

Regards