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Pakistani players not being charged by Scotland Yard

If their innocence is established, I would like to see some punitive action on the NOTW, the officials and other players who helped support this "conspiracy".
Innocence does not have to be established... They are innocent by default, as is everybody till their are proven guilty.. You should say if their guilt is not established then NOTW should come under fire.
 
KANERIA CLEARED AFTER BETTING PROBE | Sporting Life - Cricket News | Live Scorecards, England v Pakistan

Essex and Pakistan leg-spinner Danish Kaneria will not face charges from police investigating alleged cricket betting irregularities.

Kaneria, 29, of Chelmsford, Essex, was arrested in May on suspicion of fraud and released on bail without charge pending further inquiries.

However, police sources on Wednesday said Kaneria had been released from his bail without charge.

A police spokeswoman would only say that a 29-year-old man arrested in May had been released from his bail without charge.

Kaneria, a leg spinner, was arrested at the same time as Essex pace bowler Mervyn Westfield, 22, also of Chelmsford.

Westfield was also arrested on suspicion of fraud and released without charge on police bail pending further inquiries.

Police sources on Wednesday said Westfield remained on bail.

It is understood that enquires centred on a one-day game - a Pro40 win over Durham - featuring Essex in September 2009.

Police were believed to have been investigating allegations surrounding spot betting - where gamblers bet on specific occurrences, such as no balls, in a game.
 
Do you guys know if the players in the subcontinent have agents that handle the sponsorship contracts and other financial negotiations or is it something each player handles on his own?
BBC SPORT | ENGLAND  | Sachin's agent dies in car crash

Well not a link to his current agent, but since he died, I'm guessing there's always an agent.

It is impossible for any celebrity to handle these things themselves.
 
Most probably Wahab Riaz will also be freed, and then the onus falls upon SY to sufficiently investigate NOTW's hand in working in cahoots with Mazhar Majeed to frame Pakistanis.

If the video was proven to be authentic, then there is no way that at least Amir and Asif can be not charged and subsequently cannot be pronounced not guilty.
 
Innocence does not have to be established... They are innocent by default, as is everybody till their are proven guilty.. You should say if their guilt is not established then NOTW should come under fire.

That is true from a legal standpoint. Unfortunately, the ICC will not lift their suspension until their innocence has to be established without doubt. So it is in their interest that they get their name cleared.

This sucks from their POV if they are innocent. Imagine if someone charges you them something and then the "burden of proof" is on you.
 
IF any charges are slapped on them and they don't return to clear their name then ICC has a right to enforce a ban. If they don't then ICC must lift their suspension.

For the sake of cricket and the players, I would prefer to see a logical conclusion. Guilt or innocence has to be established beyond doubt.

Cricket can do without the negative atmosphere of the current situation. It will be as stifling as Day 5 at Lords if these guys were to play again without a clear verdict.
 
For the sake of cricket and the players, I would prefer to see a logical conclusion. Guilt or innocence has to be established beyond doubt.

In a court of law only guilt has to be proven beyond reasonable doubt. So the onus is on Scotland Yard to prove beyond doubt that these players were involved in the match fixing.

Cricket can do without the negative atmosphere of the current situation. It will be as stifling as Day 5 at Lords if these guys were to play again without a clear verdict.

I certainly agree with that.

BCCI should include the clause that if ever any Indian player is caught (beyond reasonable doubt) that he was involved in match fixing he would have to return the money he earned in last 2 or 3 years.

The sponsoring companies should also include similar "no match fixing" clause in their sponsorship contracts.

That would be a big deterrence for players like these.

Ultimately the blame lies on the players, no one can force them to take $.
 
In a court of law only guilt has to be proven beyond reasonable doubt. So the onus is on Scotland Yard to prove beyond doubt that these players were involved in the match fixing.

I am not talking about courts. It is about the cricketing world and fans. It was sad to see the crowd jeering and shouting "No Ball" at Amir as he was running in to bowl on Day 5. Such things are certain to happen in the future if he is released for lack of substantial proof, without innocence being established conclusively.

OTOH, if SY slap charges against them (and they know they are guilty), they will be better off not going to England. It is better to be tainted and free, rather than be tainted and in jail.

BCCI should include the clause that if ever any Indian player is caught (beyond reasonable doubt) that he was involved in match fixing he would have to return the money he earned in last 2 or 3 years.

The sponsoring companies should also include similar "no match fixing" clause in their sponsorship contracts.

That would be a big deterrence for players like these.

Ultimately the blame lies on the players, no one can force them to take $.

Contracts are provisions, not compulsions. If officials want to be lenient to a certain player, they can do that by not penalizing him to the full extent. Conversely, if they want to penalize him more than what the contract states, the player won't fight back since he has lost face anyway. Same applies to corporates as well, which anyway have zero tolerance for cheating, adultery, or other image wrecking actions.

Even after doing all this, one has to say that if a life ban is not a deterrent to players, no fine can ever do the job.
 
That is true from a legal standpoint. Unfortunately, the ICC will not lift their suspension until their innocence has to be established without doubt. So it is in their interest that they get their name cleared.

This sucks from their POV if they are innocent. Imagine if someone charges you them something and then the "burden of proof" is on you.
ICC should be given a big danda if they insist that their innocence has to be proven.

Like this we can accuse anyone and get them suspended till they can prove their innocence.
 
That is true from a legal standpoint. Unfortunately, the ICC will not lift their suspension until their innocence has to be established without doubt. So it is in their interest that they get their name cleared.

This sucks from their POV if they are innocent. Imagine if someone charges you them something and then the "burden of proof" is on you.

If none of the players are charged..... ICC will be in heavy criticism and these players will become a national hero for Pakistan

Its a funny moment of their lives...where Scotland Yard can write their fortunes by making them National Hero or Traitors
 
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If none of the players are charged..... ICC will be in heavy criticism and these players will become a national hero for Pakistan

Its a funny moment of their lives...where Scotland Yard can write their fortunes by making them National Hero or Traitors

I agree that the Pakistani Cricketers are Innocent.

As such why is the PCB claiming success as the Players are Innocent. The return of the Players would have been a success IF THE PLAYERS WERE GUILTY and I feel that this "Trumpeting of Success" is wrong on the part of PCB :

Returning of accused cricketers is PCB’s great success: Legal adviser

LAHORE: Legal adviser of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) Tafazzul Rizvi said this is a great achievement of the board that the accused Pakistani cricketers - Mohammad Aamer, Mohammad Asif and Salman Butt – have returned to the country.

Tafazzul Rizvi hailed the return of the three cricketers, involved in match fixing charges, and termed it a good omen.

He said that the PCB succeeded in convincing the Scotland Yard and this is its great success.

The legal adviser said that the PCB never left the players alone and supported them at every stage. However, the Board’s efforts proved fruitful.

He said the case made against the players is not strong and even during the investigation, no charge was made against Aamer, Asif and Salman Butt.

Rizvi said the Scotland Yard allowed the players to go back to their country as they did not doubt them.

He said that Scotland Yard could call the accused players again if needed for investigation and until then they will remain in Pakistan.
 
Pakistan fast running out of tour options as ECB looks to get tough

England will not serve as a neutral venue for Pakistan again next summer. After the spot-fixing crisis of the last fortnight, Pakistan are believed to have been written out of the script and fixture schedule for the 2011 season.

The situation has been complicated by the fact that the England and Wales Cricket Board chairman Giles Clarke is also the head of the International Cricket Council's new Pakistan Task group.

But his look of disdain, if not outright contempt, for Mohammed Amir, when he was selected as Pakistan's man of the series, and that Clarke refused to shake his hand, reflects the ECB's new, less-enthusiastic attitude towards Pakistan.

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The eyes have it: ECB chairman Giles Clarke's look of disdain is clear as he hands
Mohammed Amir the spoils for being Pakistan's man of the series Photo: Reuters


The ECB's grand design had been for Pakistan to use England as their second home so long as Pakistan was bedevilled by insecurity and terrorism. But their two-Test series against Australia flopped at Headingley in terms of crowd numbers, instead of being the commercial success the ECB had hoped for. Then the spot-fixing allegations and the suspension of three of Pakistan's top players dispelled thoughts of inviting Pakistan back to England in a hurry.

On Tuesday week the Pakistan bowler Wahab Riaz becomes the fourth man to be interviewed by police. England nowadays usually do without a third man, but at their current rate Pakistan may soon have to manage without a fifth, sixth or seventh man.

For 2011 the ECB's chief aspiration had been to stage a neutral Test and one-day series here between Pakistan and India, which would have drawn the crowds, at least for the limited-overs games. They would have served to help sustain England's over-supply of international venues.

But, even if India's government had allowed its national team to resume bilateral series against Pakistan – at present they can only play against each other in ICC tournaments like the World Cup – India are now fully booked for next summer. Immediately before their four-Test series in England they have to tour the West Indies, and immediately afterwards follows the Champions League, in which Indian players – and television – will be intimately involved.

As a modest alternative the ECB has thought of hosting a one-day series between Pakistan and Sri Lanka – a little something for Old Trafford and Headingley, which have not been allotted a Test next summer – and had left open a window of just over a week in July. But such a cloud has descended on Pakistan that, according to a ECB official, "nobody is thinking about that one any more". So now Pakistan face an even longer time in the wilderness than they had before. Already inked into their schedule are the Test and one-day series against South Africa in Dubai and Abu Dhabi, starting in late October, and in New Zealand after Christmas. But once those encounters are out of the way, and the World Cup, Pakistan look as though they will be left with no opponents except the two countries desperate for someone to play: Bangladesh and Zimbabwe.

To cast off their pariah status, Zimbabwe's board have offered to tour Pakistan later this year – between Pakistan's series in the Gulf and in New Zealand. But the ICC, after examining the security reports, will surely put their foot down and stop Zimbabwe touring simply on the grounds that it not reasonably safe to do so, irrespective of what their Task team may urge.

Zimbabwe's cricketers are the most vulnerable on three counts.

One is that their board wants to resume Test status next year after the World Cup – and could pressurise their players to meet this objective.

Secondly, Zimbabwe's players have been the worst paid of the ten ICC Full Members, as so much of the board's revenue has disappeared into other pockets. Thirdly, their players do not yet have a union of their own.

The potentially fatal drawback to all existing Test venues in Pakistan is that either the ground, or the nearest hotel of international standard (and usually both), is situated in a built-up area in the middle of a city and impossible to secure. The point was illustrated when the Marriott hotel in Islamabad, which was going to be used by several teams – including England – for the 2008 Champions Trophy, was blown up by a suicide-bomber in a lorry packed with explosives.

If the ICC's Pakistan Task group, headed by Clarke, is going to restore cricket to Pakistan sooner rather than later, a new ground has to be constructed – along with accommodation for teams and officials – outside a city. One possible venue would be Gwadar, on the south-west coast of Pakistan, which has an international airport, a growing sea port, and masses of space as the region is desert wherever desalinised water is not used. A fortress stadium with apartments inside it for players and officials would not be homely, but it could be secured – and Pakistan would once again be able to host teams at home.

As for Salman Butt, Mohammed Amir and Mohammed Asif, who returned to Pakistan via Kuwait, the timescale for their case is likely to be prolonged. Currently they are provisionally suspended, and face only preliminary charges by the ICC. Only after the Metropolitan police have concluded their investigations can the ICC Code of Conduct Commission set to work.

The Honourable Michael Beloff is the Code of Conduct Commissioner, having succeeded Lord Griffiths in 2002. He could appoint a Judicial Commissioner – ICC has 17 available from its member countries – or conduct the hearing himself.

Then a preliminary hearing has to be held between the various parties by telephone conference call. If a Notice of Charge is issued, the full hearing has to take place within 14 days except in 'exceptional circumstances.' Beloff established his reputation in cricket circles when he conducted the hearing which led to Maurice Odumbe, Kenya's captain, being banned for five years. The charge of being susceptible to Asian pressure, which has been levelled at some ICC officials, could not stick after Delhi's cricket ground had been banned for being unfit for a one-day international against Sri Lanka in December 2009, and Beloff upheld the one-year ban.

Mervyn Westfield is due to be questioned again by Essex police on Wednesday about 'match irregularities' relating to the Durham v Essex Pro40 game last September. Danish Kaneria has been cleared of any charges. In the game Westfield bowled four wides and two no-balls. Only one of the 24 televised matches in division one of the Pro40 last season produced more wides.
 
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