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If they come we should liberalize the law for them getting Indian citizenship.
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If they come we should liberalize the law for them getting Indian citizenship.
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I said nothing wrong, you can't have selective religious intolerance in Pakistan against Hindus and history has proved that it engulfed Christians, Ahmedis, Shias and in some cases even Bareilvis.
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Shias have enough resources to move anywhere. You just any idea about it.
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Pakistani Hindus don't have a place in today's Pakistan. Sad but true. If only the Quaid didn't die little after Pakistan got independence, I have a feeling a lot would have changed rather than power going into hungry hands.
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Pakistani hindus are fifth columnists and surrogates of india in Pakistan.
In my opinion, Pakistan has dealt with it's hindu population with silk gloves. Ofcourse things would be changed radically if i were to ascend into power
I will not blame Pakistani hindus for wanting to come to India because you guys are clueless. Without any mechanism to address ethnic, religious and ideological flareups you guys are moving from one crisis to another. It is not just Hindus but every ethnic community in your country is experiencing lawlessness. God save Pakistan!!!
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Pakistani Hindus In India Protest ‘Atrocities’
A group of Hindus who travelled to India from Pakistan staged a rally at the United Nations office in New Delhi on Wednesday against alleged persecution in the Islamic republic. The right-wing Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP, World Hindu Forum), which organised the rally, said protesters will not return home due to “atrocities” against Hindus in Muslim-majority Pakistan. “We have appealed through the UN that Hindus in Pakistan should be allowed to live with dignity and those who have left the country due to atrocities must be given proper rights wherever they are,” VHP spokesman Vinod Bansal said. “Those who have arrived in India must be given citizenship because they are part of the country,” Bansal said, as Hindu children from Pakistan carried posters which read “We Want Justice”.
Bansal said protesters, numbering about 100, were from a group of 480 people who arrived on pilgrim visas to attend a Hindu festival in February, adding that Hindus from Pakistan regularly travel to India. Pakistani Hindus say attitudes against them have hardened due to the country’s progressive Islamisation over the last 30 years that has fuelled intolerance of religious minorities. AFP)
A group of Hindus who travelled to India from Pakistan staged a rally at the United Nations office in New Delhi on Wednesday against alleged persecution in the Islamic republic. The right-wing Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP, World Hindu Forum), which organised the rally, said protesters will not return home due to “atrocities” against Hindus in Muslim-majority Pakistan. “We have appealed through the UN that Hindus in Pakistan should be allowed to live with dignity and those who have left the country due to atrocities must be given proper rights wherever they are,” VHP spokesman Vinod Bansal said. “Those who have arrived in India must be given citizenship because they are part of the country,” Bansal said, as Hindu children from Pakistan carried posters which read “We Want Justice”.
Bansal said protesters, numbering about 100, were from a group of 480 people who arrived on pilgrim visas to attend a Hindu festival in February, adding that Hindus from Pakistan regularly travel to India. Pakistani Hindus say attitudes against them have hardened due to the country’s progressive Islamisation over the last 30 years that has fuelled intolerance of religious minorities. AFP)
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A Hindu hell on earth: Families are being torn apart by their desperation to flee persecution in Pakistan
They had waited for years. So when the opportunity came they took it, even if it meant leaving behind friends and neighbours, brothers and husbands. Even a three-day-old baby boy. Seven weeks ago, almost 500 Hindus from Pakistan crossed into India on the pretence of visiting a religious festival. In reality, they had come to escape religious persecution and poverty. Some said they would rather commit suicide than go back.
“Pakistan is worse than hell for Hindus,” said one of those who managed to flee, Laxman Das, a fruit trader from Hyderabad.
Though Pakistan was established as a state for Muslims, the original vision of its founder, Mohammad Ali Jinnah, was of a place of tolerance and inclusion.
“You are free to go to your temples, you are free to go to your mosques or to any other place or worship in this State of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion or caste or creed – that has nothing to do with the business of the state,” he said in speech in August 1947.
Yet Jinnah’s vision has steadily been eroded. Today, as Pakistan prepares for a historic election on 11 May, its Christians and Hindus, which together comprise perhaps 3 per cent of the population, face persecution and assault. Some have fled.
“If people have any resources, they want to leave here,” Dr Ramesh Kumar Vankwani, of the Pakistan Hindu Council, said from Karachi.
The Pakistanis who have made their way to the village of Bijwasan, not far from Delhi’s international airport, all belong to the same low Hindu caste and come from the same part of Sindh province. They have applied unsuccessfully for visas to India for years and hit upon the idea of asking to visit the Kumbh Mela festival, the most auspicious date in the Hindu calendar. Though the festival is held every three years, it is only every 12 years that it is held at the confluence of the sacred Ganges and Yamuna rivers in Allahabad. This year the festival was held in February and March.
“Getting a passport is not so difficult. But getting a visa is very hard,” said 35-year-old Hanuman Prashad, another fruit trader from Hyderabad, explaining how they told the Indian authorities they wished to attend the festival.
The Hindus, who came in three groups, said their biggest motivation to leave was the challenge of educating their children. There was discrimination in government schools, where they were referred to as “kafirs”, told to go and work in the fields and obliged to recite the six kalimas, or tenets, of Islam.
For girls, it was even more difficult, so much so that few of the families bothered sending their daughters to school. “For the wealthy Hindus it is easier – they can send their children to better schools or else abroad,” Mr Das said.
They said the situation had become worse since the rule of the military leader General Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq, who seized power in 1977 and for the next decade oversaw an increased Islamisation of Pakistan. Following the notorious destruction of India’s Babri mosque by a Hindu mob in 1992, the Hindus of Pakistan were often the victims of revenge attacks.
While hundreds of Hindus received visas to attend the festival, not everyone did. Almost everyone at Bijwasan – where they are squeezed more than 20 to a room in a former school, the air filled with flies – can tell a story of leaving someone behind.
Hanuman Prashad, who came to India with his wife and six children, said his parents had not been successful. When it came to leaving, with the knowledge he would not return, everyone wept. But his parents were insistent. “Whatever happens to us, go and save your life. Take your kids,” they told him.
****** Sulanki had travelled to the crossing at the Pakistani border town Khokhrapar with her husband and seven children, the youngest being only three-days old. She said the Pakistani authorities demanded a passport and visa for the newborn, too young even to have been named.
She said she pleaded with the guards to let her cross with the boy she was still breastfeeding but they refused. Dazed and tear-stained, Ms Sulanki said she believed she had no alternative but to hand the child to a relative who had come to the border with them. Since then she has been unable to make contact to discover what has happened to her baby.
She said she had prayed they would get their visas earlier so she could have given birth in India.
“I had no option,” she sobbed. “I sacrificed the baby for the sake of the other six children, so they can have an education.”
A 30-year-old pregnant woman called Laran Keswari was equally distraught. She had crossed with her five children but her husband, who is disabled, had not obtained a visa. She told him she did not want to go without him but he insisted she go ahead for the sake of their children. “God is on your side,” he told her.
Ms Keswari is anxious about how she will manage by herself with her children, hoping against hope that her husband will be able to join them. “We speak on the phone but we are both always crying,” she said.
An irony of the group’s exodus from Pakistan, a journey to escape discrimination, is that it was made possible by people with fundamental and, in some cases, extremist views. Their host in Bijwasan was Naher Singh, a former customs officer and policeman, who accommodated another smaller group of refugees in 2011. He asked his rent-paying tenants to leave his property and housed the Pakistanis instead. “These people are my God and Goddess. I worship them,” he said.
Mr Singh said the cost of feeding and housing the 483 people was met by various hardline Hindu groups, including the Vishva Hindu Parishad, the Bajrang Dal and the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh. Some of their members have been linked to confrontations with minority groups across India.
Mr Singh, who has been rousing his refugee guests at 3am to lead them in yoga and religious chants, said he wanted to forcibly drive Muslims from India. He made a series of inflammatory remarks.
Mr Singh was accompanied by a Hindu priest. Asked if Mr Singh was not displaying the sort of bigotry from which he claimed to be saving the refugees, the priest replied: “This is God talking through him. And I agree with him.”
The government of India has yet to publicly comment on the refugees or its plans for them. Sending them back to Pakistan would be politically fraught. Pakistan has not commented on the matter.
Mr Singh said he would fight any attempt to repatriate the refugees and claimed they would be accepted by the local community. He said: “We will find jobs for them here in the villages.”
A Hindu hell on earth: Families are being torn apart by their desperation to flee persecution in Pakistan - Asia - World - The Independent
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A Hindu hell on earth: Families are being torn apart by their desperation to flee persecution in Pakistan
They had waited for years. So when the opportunity came they took it, even if it meant leaving behind friends and neighbours, brothers and husbands. Even a three-day-old baby boy. Seven weeks ago, almost 500 Hindus from Pakistan crossed into India on the pretence of visiting a religious festival. In reality, they had come to escape religious persecution and poverty. Some said they would rather commit suicide than go back.
“Pakistan is worse than hell for Hindus,” said one of those who managed to flee, Laxman Das, a fruit trader from Hyderabad.
Though Pakistan was established as a state for Muslims, the original vision of its founder, Mohammad Ali Jinnah, was of a place of tolerance and inclusion.
“You are free to go to your temples, you are free to go to your mosques or to any other place or worship in this State of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion or caste or creed – that has nothing to do with the business of the state,” he said in speech in August 1947.
Yet Jinnah’s vision has steadily been eroded. Today, as Pakistan prepares for a historic election on 11 May, its Christians and Hindus, which together comprise perhaps 3 per cent of the population, face persecution and assault. Some have fled.
“If people have any resources, they want to leave here,” Dr Ramesh Kumar Vankwani, of the Pakistan Hindu Council, said from Karachi.
The Pakistanis who have made their way to the village of Bijwasan, not far from Delhi’s international airport, all belong to the same low Hindu caste and come from the same part of Sindh province. They have applied unsuccessfully for visas to India for years and hit upon the idea of asking to visit the Kumbh Mela festival, the most auspicious date in the Hindu calendar. Though the festival is held every three years, it is only every 12 years that it is held at the confluence of the sacred Ganges and Yamuna rivers in Allahabad. This year the festival was held in February and March.
“Getting a passport is not so difficult. But getting a visa is very hard,” said 35-year-old Hanuman Prashad, another fruit trader from Hyderabad, explaining how they told the Indian authorities they wished to attend the festival.
The Hindus, who came in three groups, said their biggest motivation to leave was the challenge of educating their children. There was discrimination in government schools, where they were referred to as “kafirs”, told to go and work in the fields and obliged to recite the six kalimas, or tenets, of Islam.
For girls, it was even more difficult, so much so that few of the families bothered sending their daughters to school. “For the wealthy Hindus it is easier – they can send their children to better schools or else abroad,” Mr Das said.
They said the situation had become worse since the rule of the military leader General Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq, who seized power in 1977 and for the next decade oversaw an increased Islamisation of Pakistan. Following the notorious destruction of India’s Babri mosque by a Hindu mob in 1992, the Hindus of Pakistan were often the victims of revenge attacks.
While hundreds of Hindus received visas to attend the festival, not everyone did. Almost everyone at Bijwasan – where they are squeezed more than 20 to a room in a former school, the air filled with flies – can tell a story of leaving someone behind.
Hanuman Prashad, who came to India with his wife and six children, said his parents had not been successful. When it came to leaving, with the knowledge he would not return, everyone wept. But his parents were insistent. “Whatever happens to us, go and save your life. Take your kids,” they told him.
****** Sulanki had travelled to the crossing at the Pakistani border town Khokhrapar with her husband and seven children, the youngest being only three-days old. She said the Pakistani authorities demanded a passport and visa for the newborn, too young even to have been named.
She said she pleaded with the guards to let her cross with the boy she was still breastfeeding but they refused. Dazed and tear-stained, Ms Sulanki said she believed she had no alternative but to hand the child to a relative who had come to the border with them. Since then she has been unable to make contact to discover what has happened to her baby.
She said she had prayed they would get their visas earlier so she could have given birth in India.
“I had no option,” she sobbed. “I sacrificed the baby for the sake of the other six children, so they can have an education.”
A 30-year-old pregnant woman called Laran Keswari was equally distraught. She had crossed with her five children but her husband, who is disabled, had not obtained a visa. She told him she did not want to go without him but he insisted she go ahead for the sake of their children. “God is on your side,” he told her.
Ms Keswari is anxious about how she will manage by herself with her children, hoping against hope that her husband will be able to join them. “We speak on the phone but we are both always crying,” she said.
An irony of the group’s exodus from Pakistan, a journey to escape discrimination, is that it was made possible by people with fundamental and, in some cases, extremist views. Their host in Bijwasan was Naher Singh, a former customs officer and policeman, who accommodated another smaller group of refugees in 2011. He asked his rent-paying tenants to leave his property and housed the Pakistanis instead. “These people are my God and Goddess. I worship them,” he said.
Mr Singh said the cost of feeding and housing the 483 people was met by various hardline Hindu groups, including the Vishva Hindu Parishad, the Bajrang Dal and the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh. Some of their members have been linked to confrontations with minority groups across India.
Mr Singh, who has been rousing his refugee guests at 3am to lead them in yoga and religious chants, said he wanted to forcibly drive Muslims from India. He made a series of inflammatory remarks.
Mr Singh was accompanied by a Hindu priest. Asked if Mr Singh was not displaying the sort of bigotry from which he claimed to be saving the refugees, the priest replied: “This is God talking through him. And I agree with him.”
The government of India has yet to publicly comment on the refugees or its plans for them. Sending them back to Pakistan would be politically fraught. Pakistan has not commented on the matter.
Mr Singh said he would fight any attempt to repatriate the refugees and claimed they would be accepted by the local community. He said: “We will find jobs for them here in the villages.”
A Hindu hell on earth: Families are being torn apart by their desperation to flee persecution in Pakistan - Asia - World - The Independent
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Hindus in Pak 'victims of religious apartheid'
Islamabad: Hindus in Pakistan are not "equal citizens of the state but victims of a religious apartheid", a new non-political organisation, the All Hindu Rights Forum, has said.
The forum has been set up in the port city of Karachi in a bid to fight for due constitutional rights of the largest religious minority in the country, the Daily Times reported.
Kishanchand Parwani, former member of the National Assembly, was elected chairman, Mohan Manjiani became president and Manohar Lal Jesrani became general secretary of the new organisation.
Manjiani said the Hindu community feels insecure in Pakistan due to continued acts of injustice and atrocities, especially against women.
"All Hindus are hounded and humiliated to force them to leave Pakistan," he was quoted as saying.
Manjiani said Hindus in Pakistan are not "equal citizens of the state but victims of a religious apartheid".
"They live in a state of perpetual dread with their daughters, property and religious places being constantly targeted," he said.
Thousands of temples have been vandalised, wealth of minorities looted, women and children abducted, but none has been tried before a court of law to give them justice, he said.
Referring to incidents of "forced marriages" of Hindu girls in Sindh, he said the courts generally do not consider the fact that most of the girls are minors.
"This practice is much more prevalent as the victims' families often fail to file a police report fearing violent retaliation," Manjiani said.
He demanded a special session of parliament to verify the persecution of Hindus and other minorities, establishment of a monitoring cell to prevent communal incidents, revision of syllabus and removal of hate passages against Hindus, and allowing dual vote for Hindus.
According to the Pakistan Hindu Council, there are more than seven million Hindus , about 5.5 percent of Pakistan's population of 170 million living in the various states of Pakistan, most of them in Sindh.
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Hindus in Pak `victims of religious apartheid`
Islamabad: Hindus in Pakistan are not "equal citizens of the state but victims of a religious apartheid", a new non-political organisation, the All Hindu Rights Forum, has said.
The forum has been set up in the port city of Karachi in a bid to fight for due constitutional rights of the largest religious minority in the country, the Daily Times reported.
Kishanchand Parwani, former member of the National Assembly, was elected chairman, Mohan Manjiani became president and Manohar Lal Jesrani became general secretary of the new organisation.
Manjiani said the Hindu community feels insecure in Pakistan due to continued acts of injustice and atrocities, especially against women.
"All Hindus are hounded and humiliated to force them to leave Pakistan," he was quoted as saying.
Manjiani said Hindus in Pakistan are not "equal citizens of the state but victims of a religious apartheid".
"They live in a state of perpetual dread with their daughters, property and religious places being constantly targeted," he said.
Thousands of temples have been vandalised, wealth of minorities looted, women and children abducted, but none has been tried before a court of law to give them justice, he said.
Referring to incidents of "forced marriages" of Hindu girls in Sindh, he said the courts generally do not consider the fact that most of the girls are minors.
"This practice is much more prevalent as the victims' families often fail to file a police report fearing violent retaliation," Manjiani said.
He demanded a special session of parliament to verify the persecution of Hindus and other minorities, establishment of a monitoring cell to prevent communal incidents, revision of syllabus and removal of hate passages against Hindus, and allowing dual vote for Hindus.
According to the Pakistan Hindu Council, there are more than seven million Hindus , about 5.5 percent of Pakistan's population of 170 million living in the various states of Pakistan, most of them in Sindh.
IANS
Hindus in Pak `victims of religious apartheid`
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Well it's unfortunate that Hindus are facing discrimination... in fact any minority facing troubles in any nation should be able to go to a higher court... maybe a UN court. This type of discrimination is seen in south Asian countries mostly... India, Bandladesh and Pakistan topping the list.
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Why??? they are Pakistani's mate... cry for muslims, christinas, sikhs, budhists, hindus of India. Or else, cry for whole of Pakistan.
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Hindus blown up to 100000 pieces like Shia Muslims are in Pakistan?
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Their daughters are kidnapped for forced conversion and then married to the kidnapper. The school textbooks teaches Hindu hatred openly citing Hindus as the enemies of Pakistan.
Abduction, oppression and forced conversion is fate of Hindus in Pak : The Big Story - India Today
Hindus in Pakistan accuse Muslims of kidnapping women as wives - Los Angeles Times
?Pakistan schools teach Hindu hatred? - DAWN.COM
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