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People who live among the locals will always know better about the situation and developments, than who would watch through eyes of media no? There were dark and difficult times to test our resilience, but nothing like those now, and nature somehow has taken the course to cleanse the filth from the society. It is natural it has happened before and it will happen again. Rise and fall is never permanent. Though I won't disagree with the hard work part but I would surely oppose any pessimistic thoughts.

Do you think enough hard work is being done in the present to brighten the future?

Man, did you just get demoted from TTA?

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Do you think enough hard work is being done in the present to brighten the future?

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How would you value hard work? What counts as hard work for you? In which form? In which capacity? I won't expect a tree to take roots in a night and bear fruit in the morning.
 
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How would you value hard work? What counts as hard work for you? In which form? In which capacity? I won't expect a tree to take roots in a night and bear fruit in the morning.

The value of hard work is judged by its outcomes.
 
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The value of hard work is judged by its outcomes.

Success relies on long term goals, plans and policies, and such plans policies don't just producing benefits, a nation just 68 years old has proven enough compared to nations that took centuries to reach where they are today. As I said it will take time, the major step to correct course has been taken, restoring peace and stability (at the cost of lives of many) has been achieved 90%, corrupt are being apprehended (slow but still), infrastructure construction is under way, shift in alliances is clear. So if not me may be my children will see this country prosper.
 
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Success relies on long term goals, plans and policies, and such plans policies don't just producing benefits, a nation just 68 years old has proven enough compared to nations that took centuries to reach where they are today. As I said it will take time, the major step to correct course has been taken, restoring peace and stability (at the cost of lives of many) has been achieved 90%, corrupt are being apprehended (slow but still), infrastructure construction is under way, shift in alliances is clear. So if not me may be my children will see this country prosper.

What about comparing Pakistan's progress to Malaysia, South Korea or China in terms of how long it takes?
 
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What about comparing Pakistan's progress to Malaysia, South Korea or China in terms of how long it takes?

Take China out of the comparison, and let us see which one of the rest is blessed enough to have neighbors like India and Afghanistan and an ally like US? Now don't preach me that US never installed dictators in Pakistan. So I would say I am left with no comparison. They adopted and acted on our plans good for them, if we were like New Zealand may be we would have out performed them.
 
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Take China out of the comparison, and let us see which one of the rest is blessed enough to have neighbors like India and Afghanistan and an ally like US? Now don't preach me that US never installed dictators in Pakistan. So I would say I am left with no comparison. They adopted and acted on our plans good for them, if we were like New Zealand may be we would have out performed them.

All the more reason for Pakistan to strive for good relations with its neighbors. Pakistan could have become South Korea, but decided to become North Korea instead. Sad.
 
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@Irfan Baloch Sir, can you please read #2522 above and advise kindly. Thanks. :D
for sure I can although I had an understanding that your tummy was full and them guys empty when you went out for your biking session ;)


@Color_Less_Sky @Indus Falcon continue with your good posts but please ensure that your posts don't imply that they are threatening or trolling someone here specially SAH here.. he has the same rights as you guys have on this forum so avoid discussing personal life or his abilities in bed .. because they are irrelevant. what we value is that he presents his alternate view and if you are a follower of Muhammad PBUH then follow his example and build some patience and grace if Hazrat Umar R.A can find peace and control his anger then I am sure we all can too when we hear things NOT to our liking.


A polite advice to ALL
NO more threats or intimidations to anyone please because I will just flip and make mission to keep you off this forum. I wont allow anyone to abuse or disclose anyone's personal life or information to settle some grudge.. there is simply no justification to it.

confront others with logic and keep your responses civil

hopefully you will understand.
 
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I apologize if I hurt anyone. I didn't know much about the background of whats going on the site vis a vis Syed Ali and Gufi and whomever else. But if people can't tolerate an innocuous question what are they doing on the internet which is filled with things that might not fit well in ones stomach. I have nothing personal against you @Indus Falcon. Initially I didn't even know if Shamain was a girl or a boy. Anyway who cares who he she talks to. Is it my place to judge?

What I stated was that some people have a very judgmental attitude to others. That is wrong.


As I said I have nothing to do with the background of this fight between Levina Syed Ali and whoever else. I am not involved in the politics of PDF but one person was "disgusted" by an innocuous question. I was neither flirting nor hitting on her.

If someone is going to get offended with little things on the internet well he would have much difficulty in real life.

Judgmental Attitude - Please provide evidence, or keep your mouth shut

@WebMaster @waz @Jango @Irfan Baloch Please ask him to provide "evidence" or stop referring or addressing to me in any manner!! Thank You!!
 
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