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Pakistani army: No new offensive for 6-12 months

It's not a question of getting exhausted or anything but surely PA doesn't want itself to stretch thin, I guess the proxy war PA is up against doesn't even call for capturing vast territory and then find it difficult to hold on to the same especially when half of PA's attention is eastwards but what if uncle sam pushes for "do more"

Uncle sam know very well , PA cant stretched any more otherwise Pakistan could lose Azad Kashmir and Sindh if attacked by India.

Honey moon period of ISAF forces is over , if they wanted any more help from Pakistan they have to pay heavy price 50Billion USD or more per annum.Our corrupt leadership just wanted money nothing more or less.
 
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Army rules out new operation for one year

Updated at: 1925 PST, Thursday, January 21, 2010



RAWALPINDI: Director General Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) Major General Ather Abbas has said that no new operation will be launched for one year due to the expansion of ongoing military offensive.

Talking to Geo News, he said army operation is already under way in South Waziristan and eight other areas. For now, Pak army will strengthen its position in the areas where it has regained control.

DG ISPR further said country’s resources do not allow the army to open a new front, but if new operation is launched, it will be in line with the national interest.

He said no major operation is possible till the restoration of peace and stability.

He said it could take 6 to 12 months for the complete return of peace in the affected areas.

Source: Army rules out new operation for one year
 
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Pakistan snubs US over new Taliban offensive

Pakistan's army has said it will launch no new offensives on militants in 2010, as the US defence secretary arrived for talks on combating Taliban fighters.

Army spokesman Athar Abbas told the BBC the "overstretched" military had no plans for any fresh anti-militant operations over the next 12 months.

Our correspondent says the comments are a clear snub to Washington.

The US would like Pakistan to expand an offensive against militants launching cross-border attacks in Afghanistan.

Defence Secretary Robert Gates arrived in Pakistan on Thursday for his first visit since US President Barack Obama took office last year.

'Embarrassing'

The one-day trip comes at a crucial time in the fight against al-Qaeda and the Taliban, with the US planning to commit 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan.

Mr Gates was expected to tell Pakistan that it could do more against top Taliban leaders operating in its territory, some of whom are alleged to have close links to Pakistan's ISI intelligence service.

The Pakistani army launched major ground offensives in 2009 in the north-west against Pakistani Taliban strongholds in the Swat region, last April, and in South Waziristan, last October.

The militants have hit back with a wave of suicide bombings and attacks that have killed hundreds of people across Pakistan.

In the capital, Islamabad, on Thursday, Maj Gen Abbas, head of public relations for the Pakistan army, told the BBC: "We are not going to conduct any major new operations against the militants over the next 12 months.

"The Pakistan army is overstretched and it is not in a position to open any new fronts. Obviously, we will continue our present operations in Waziristan and Swat."

'Trust deficit'

The BBC's Syed Shoaib Hasan in Islamabad says the comments are a clear brush-off to top US officials.

Our correspondent adds they are embarrassing for Pakistan's shaky coalition government, and likely to further destabilise already-low ties with its US ally.

He says it also threatens to render ineffective an expanded coalition troop deployment in Afghanistan, as the Taliban over the border would be relieved of any pressure from the Pakistan army.

Before arriving in Islamabad, Mr Gates told reporters travelling with him from India: "You can't ignore one part of this cancer and pretend that it won't have some impact closer to home."

His visit comes amidst a slight cooling in relations between the two allies. In an article published in a Pakistani newspaper on Thursday, Mr Gates referred to a "trust deficit".

As well as talking with his counterpart, Ahmed Mukhtar, the US defence secretary is expected to meet Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and President Asif Zardari.

Talks were also expected to focus on US drone strikes against militants near the Afghan border.

Hundreds of people have died in the attacks, which have stoked deep resentment of the US among many Pakistanis.

But our correspondent says Mr Gates will argue that drone strikes are the only effective measure against the Taliban.

Pakistan has been an important US partner in South Asia since the 11 September 2001 attacks in the US.

Source: BBC News - Pakistan snubs US over new Taliban offensive
 
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Uncle sam know very well , PA cant stretched any more otherwise Pakistan could lose Azad Kashmir and Sindh if attacked by India.

Honey moon period of ISAF forces is over , if they wanted any more help from Pakistan they have to pay heavy price 50Billion USD or more per annum.Our corrupt leadership just wanted money nothing more or less.

No, India can't be a reason because according to many Pakistani members Pakistan can easily wipe out India by It's Nuke missiles, Al Khalid and JF-17. Of which India is very afraid of.

If PA have this little capacity, streamline or they are exhausted is also not true.

As many media reports are saying that they are doing this to blackmail US for more money and in reality don't want to fight it out with Taliban, because by using it they are planning to takeover and destabilize Afghanistan.
 
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Pakistan Resists Call by U.S. to Root Out Militants

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By ELISABETH BUMILLER
Published: January 21, 2010

RAWALPINDI, Pakistan — The Pakistani Army indicated Thursday that it would not launch any new offensives against extremists in the mountainous region of North Waziristan for at least six months, pushing back against calls by the United States to root out militants staging attacks along the Afghan border.

An Army spokesman described Pakistan’s position as the United States secretary of defense, Robert M. Gates, arrived here for an unannounced two-day visit. Mr. Gates said that he planned to urge top Pakistani military officials to pursue extremist groups along their border, and that ignoring “one part of this cancer” would threaten the entire country’s stability.

But the Army spokesman, Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas, told American reporters at the headquarters of the Pakistani Army in the garrison city of Rawalpindi that Pakistan had to contain some of the extremist groups in the wake of offensives against Taliban fighters last year. General Abbas said it would be six months to a year before any new operation began, and said the situation was not as “black and white” as Mr. Gates described.

Mr. Gates, who is on his first trip to Pakistan in three years, was to meet on Thursday with the Pakistani Army chief, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, as well as the director of the country’s spy agency, Inter-Services Intelligence, Lt. Gen. Ahmad Shuja Pasha.

He is also to attend a dinner in his honor given by the Pakistani president, Asif Ali Zardari, and deliver a speech on American policy before a military audience.

In an opinion article published on Thursday in The News, Pakistan’s largest English-language daily newspaper, Mr. Gates sounded a theme similar to his remarks to reporters, saying that Pakistan had to do more to fight the multiple extremist groups on its Afghan border.

Implicitly he pressed Pakistan to root out the Afghan Taliban leadership, the Quetta Shura, which has found refuge in Pakistan’s Baluchistan province outside the tribal areas. American officials are increasingly frustrated that while the Pakistanis have launched offensives against the Pakistani Taliban and Al Qaeda, they have so far not pursued the Afghan Taliban and another extremist group on their border, the Haqqani network, whose fighters pose a threat to American forces.

“Maintaining a distinction between some violent extremist groups and others is counterproductive,” Mr. Gates wrote. “Only by pressuring all of these groups on both sides of the border will Afghanistan and Pakistan be able to rid themselves of this scourge for good.”

American officials privately say that the Pakistanis are reluctant to go after the Afghan Taliban and the Haqqani network because they see them as a future proxy against Indian interests in Afghanistan when the Americans leave. India is Pakistan’s archrival in the region; under President Obama’s Afghan strategy, announced last month, the United States is to begin withdrawing its forces from Afghanistan by July 2011.

In the same article, Mr. Gates sought to reassure Pakistanis that Americans were interested in a long-term interest in their country, not just in short-term strategic gain across the border in Afghanistan. Mr. Gates said he regretted past injustices in the American-Pakistan relationship that he himself has been part of since the late 1980s, when as No. 2 at the C.I.A. he helped funnel covert Reagan administration aid and weapons through Pakistan’s spy agency to the Islamic fundamentalists who ousted the Russians from Afghanistan. Some of those fundamentalists are now part of the Taliban and fighting against the United States.

Mr. Gates said that the United States largely abandoned Afghanistan and cut military ties with Pakistan once the Russians left Kabul, which he called “a grave mistake driven by some well-intentioned but short-sighted U.S. legislative and policy decisions.”

He said on this visit “I will emphasize that the United States wishes to relinquish the grievances of the past.”

Source: Pakistan Resists Call by U.S. to Root Out Militants - NYTimes.com

Just to throw in another perspective.

PS. Just note the moods in the pic.
 
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See the timings guys, this was a much needed statement. Well. it'll keep the american beaks tight for a while. Also, on a personal note, i think the statement might have to do something with Gates other statement where he allowed india to mourn more in case it is attacked again.
 
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if this was a war, would pakistan call for a time out based on army getting exhausted. ?

If it was India you mean? The answer is obviously no, but then this is a war of outsiders that Pakistan shouldn't be fighting in the first place. Let's make the distinction, shall we?
 
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They have not been exhausted, all they need is time to clear the current area which they have captured, as large areas are still to be cleared. Just see Swat, still on daily basis militants being killed and captured and even in Malakand, there are still areas which army has not checked out fully.

Same for SWA, there is still 20% of the hardest area still to be taken by from the militants. If Army moves into any new area, it will have to lighten its troop concentration in the already captured area, thus giving militants the room to come into these areas, so end result would be the same.

PA can't release more troops, as already a hundred thousand troops are engaged and they have to clear our the Kurran-Orakzai Agencies too, as the militants have assembled there.

So the strategy is right, but if someone wishes to think it as a ploy to get more time, they are most welcome.

Agree to the logic but consolidation should not take 12 months. Also once the area is cleared, the local law enforcement starts pitching in. And even in army, aren't the offensive brigades and the the brigades used for holding and consolidation different.

Just my 2 cents for a discussion.. not a flame...
 
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Agree to the logic but consolidation should not take 12 months. Also once the area is cleared, the local law enforcement starts pitching in. And even in army, aren't the offensive brigades and the the brigades used for holding and consolidation different.

Just my 2 cents for a discussion.. not a flame...

Have you actually been on the ground and witnessed the situation first hand? Or are you just making these assumptions based on reading some news articles on the internet? If it's the latter, I suggest you to just keep it at those two cents. Since the internet revolution every Tom, Dick and Harry thinks he's qualified to make judgements about anything and everything.
 
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It is because of Indian adventurism - statements by the Army chief etc threatening Pakistan - Pakistan may even have to pull to pull out forces from the West to have a reserve for the East....I should be ready for the sneak attack in the East - as the Indians are already supporting the terrorists in the West of the country.

I dont think India is supporting any terrorists, but lets say it is.. Then it is payback to pakistan supporting terrorists in the attack on parliament and 26/11 and the decades of fermenting terrorism in Punjab and Kashmir...
 
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And a a word of advice for BBC, cut out the mirch masala, there is no need to blow this issue. We are not a super army nor do we have funding as of theUS army. We cant poke every nook and corner at one time. Let us consolidate (a basic phase of Attack) our gains and expand on that. We wont these tugs to die easy later!
 
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If it was India you mean? The answer is obviously no, but then this is a war of outsiders that Pakistan shouldn't be fighting in the first place. Let's make the distinction, shall we?

you are right.. There is a difference...
 
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