Pakistani and Black violence in UK

[Mercenary]

Interesting documentary on the violence between Pakistani and African Caribbean communities in UK.

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Part 2:

 

[Desert Fox]

I've seen this. When the whites become minority the immigrants turn on eachother.

 

[Kompromat]

Its kind of funny how, British born and bread kids are still called Pakistanis. Well unlike Turks,Arabs,Persians and so on - Pakistani is NOT an ethnic identity. Whats the rationale behind it?

 

[Ayush]

Its kind of funny how, British born and bread kids are still called Pakistanis. Well unlike Turks,Arabs,Persians and so on - Pakistani is NOT an ethnic identity. Whats the rationale behind it?

maybe @hussain0216 can answer you.. or maybe u can go through his posts and see for yourself..

 

[A1Kaid]

Its kind of funny how, British born and bread kids are still called Pakistanis. Well unlike Turks,Arabs,Persians and so on - Pakistani is NOT an ethnic identity. Whats the rationale behind it?

Many of them don't even speak Urdu...

 

[Kompromat]

Many of them don't even speak Urdu...

Thats not the point. Pakistan is not an ethno-linguistic identity. We start our day with Punjabi roghni parathas and finish with Pashtun Naan. We drink Punjabi lassi the breakfast, eat Afghani pulao in lunch and drink Peshawari qehva after dinner.

In other words, if you are not born and bread in Pakistan, you actually have no idea what it means to be a Pakistani. It means allegiance to a multicultural country which was created upon a spiritual ideology. This is what makes Pakistan unique. Those kids, born and bread abroad in the UK are British not Pakistanis. They are the product of THEIR society, THEIR culture, THEIR language, THEIR education system - NOT ours!

 

[Roybot]

Thats not the point. Pakistan is not an ethno-linguistic identity. We start our day with Punjabi roghni parathas and finish with Pashtun Naan. We drink Punjabi lassi the breakfast, eat Afghani pulao in lunch and drink Peshawari qehva after dinner.

In other words, if you are not born and bread in Pakistan, you actually have no idea what it means to be a Pakistani. It means allegiance to a multicultural country which was created upon a spiritual ideology. This is what makes Pakistan unique. Those kids, born and bread abroad in the UK are British not Pakistanis. They are the product of THEIR society, THEIR culture, THEIR language, THEIR education system - NOT ours!

So you'd rather have the British Pakistanis be called British Punjabis, British Pashtuns, British Sindhis, British Baloch, British Indians (Muhajirs) and so on?

 

[EMERCOM]

Blacks will sure shot destroy the pakistanis anyday. Blacks have a very strong vengeful mentality.Even more than the muslims.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Its kind of funny how, British born and bread kids are still called Pakistanis. Well unlike Turks,Arabs,Persians and so on - Pakistani is NOT an ethnic identity. Whats the rationale behind it?

This shows how much isolated west is.

 

[Roybot]

This shows how much isolated west is.

How does it show that

 

[Umair Nawaz]

How does it show that

Go to school or have a lollipop this is mature people's topic.

 

[Kompromat]

So you'd rather have the British Pakistanis be called British Punjabis, British Pashtuns, British Sindhis, British Baloch, British Indians (Muhajirs) and so on?

If a British born cant be called a british, after growing up in THEIR society, being indoctrinated in THEIR school systems and THEIR way of life - he still is classified with a British XYZ and his skin color- than one must wonder,what all the talk about 'western equality' really means.

 

[A1Kaid]

Thats not the point. Pakistan is not an ethno-linguistic identity. We start our day with Punjabi roghni parathas and finish with Pashtun Naan. We drink Punjabi lassi the breakfast, eat Afghani pulao in lunch and drink Peshawari qehva after dinner.

In other words, if you are not born and bread in Pakistan, you actually have no idea what it means to be a Pakistani. It means allegiance to a multicultural country which was created upon a spiritual ideology. This is what makes Pakistan unique. Those kids, born and bread abroad in the UK are British not Pakistanis. They are the product of THEIR society, THEIR culture, THEIR language, THEIR education system - NOT ours!

If you don't your ethnic language then it will be difficult for you to connect with your culture and people, eating cuisine is one thing. A Pakistani can remain a Pakistani even without eating those things, but it will be very difficult to have any meaningful connection with Pakistan and the people without knowing the language.

 

[Silverblaze]

If a British born cant be called a british, after growing up in THEIR society, being indoctrinated in THEIR school systems and THEIR way of life - he still is classified with a British XYZ and his skin color- than one must wonder,what all the talk about 'western equality' really means.

Indoctrination happens somewhere else and not too much in the west. Critical analysis is still promoted in the west.

On topic,

Pakistanis identify themselves as muslim Pakistanis in UK and thats it. They call themselves Pakistanis and interestingly hate the country they were born in.

Demanding Sharia, islamizing the streets, not allowing alcohols on 'their' streets is not part of UK culture it comes from somewhere else.

These people remain in their culture by virtue of their homes. They did face severe racism, but turning to violence is not a justification. If discrimination is the cause of their violent behaviour then every minority in Pakistan should do the same.

 

[Roybot]

If a British born cant be called a british, after growing up in THEIR society, being indoctrinated in THEIR school systems and THEIR way of life - he still is classified with a British XYZ and his skin color- than one must wonder,what all the talk about 'western equality' really means.

I don't think we should be blaming the west for that. We don't seem to have any issue when British Pakistanis or British Indians go and support their "home countries" over England in cricket? We can't cherry pick. When someone from Indian or Pakistani diaspora does something good, we feel proud, but when they do something bad we start disowning them?

Holding on to ones heritage or identity is not really a bad thing, look at American Italians, American Irish, they hold on to their identity very proudly.

Go to school or have a lollipop this is mature people's topic.

lmao, oh I see, I guess I haven't reached to your intellectual or maturity level, long way to go