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We never liked the soviets

Who is "We" ? Faiz Ahmed Faiz received the Lenin Peace Prize in 1962 from the Soviet Union and was nominated for the Lenin Prize in 1984.

And you and I have spoken about leftist influence in recent times on Malala, the Laal band and Arooj Aurangzeb ( who quotes Faiz and Mashal Khan who himself was a Socialist ). These people come through USSR's legacy.

They needed some *** kicking when they came to our backyard
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Now that's a non-sensible post. Please read my replies to SIPRA in posts# 77 and 84.
 
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Those considerations you posted were of an immediate nature which existed in the context of Zia's rule. I again ask you would these considerations have existed if the 1951 coup attempt had succeeded. And yes, Zia being of a right-wing bent was extremely important in him positioning the Pakistani Establishment against the leftist Afghan government and its Soviet backer. If Zia had been a leftist then the USSR would probably have helped him against the Baloch and Pashtun separatists whom you are somehow attaching a left-wing association.

As for India I have posted how the Indian Establishment would have helped Zia if his position would have come under threat from Pakistani leftists. India wasn't a Socialist country then ( despite the Constitution's preamble declaring it so ) or now. A friend of mine had a 1980s copy of the magazine India Today which had an article by an Indian journalist who traveled into Afghanistan to meet the so-called Mujahideen. It is certain that this trip was arranged by Zia's government in context of the Rajiv Gandhi-Zia understanding I mentioned earlier.

You are asking me to conjecture on what would have happened, in 1979, if the 1951 coup d'etat had suceeded. To me it is extremely preposterous. It is like asking, what would have happened, if ZAB, or Ayub Khan, or Yahya Khan would not have born. No fruitful discussion is possible on such wild speculations and imagined scenarios.
 
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A lie perpetrated by those who saw a gravy train of Billions of dollars and free arms in front of their eyes.

Lies, deception, duplicity, betrayal, and other Chanakyan traits are your strongholds, not ours. :sarcastic:
 
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Yes sonny we are taught about Indus valley Buddha and also Aryan migration the globally recognised to be a historical fact but saffron revisionist can accept it as makes em the invaders too

Mahabharata ram Leela are copies of Greek Iliad when
Alexander came to India Greek brought these stories with em around 400 BC

Indians appropriated em like Bollywood churba
About Mahabharata... Has reference to items of Panchang, it cannot be falsified that easily... I will give you an example, Bishma died on Utarayana, ekadasi...and reference to nakstra is also give.. Greeks dont have astrology equivalent to Vedic astrology.. better you do your research before talking about Mahabharata or Ramayana
 
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You are asking me to conjecture on what would have happened, in 1979, if the 1951 coup d'etat had suceeded. To me it is extremely preposterous. It is like asking, what would have happened, if ZAB, or Ayub Khan, or Yahya Khan would not have born. No fruitful discussion is possible on such wild speculations and imagined scenarios.

I think I am being reasonable. I am not proposing an alternative history. I was just responding to your belief that all of Pakistan was in support of Zia's ideology-based actions against the USSR and the Afghan government. Your point about Baloch and Pashtun insurgency is just an after-thought.
 
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About Mahabharata... Has reference to items of Panchang, it cannot be falsified that easily... I will give you an example, Bishma died on Utarayana, ekadasi...and reference to nakstra is also give.. Greeks dont have astrology equivalent to Vedic astrology.. better you do your research before talking about Mahabharata or Ramayana
Bishma is copy of Hector.
Ram of Achilles + agonmemnon I did my research sonny
Obivut you added few local masala details same as Bollywood copies of Hollywood films
 
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Bishma is copy of Hector.
Ram of Achilles + agonmemnon I did my research sonny
Obivut you added few local masala details same as Bollywood copies of Hollywood films
You cannot be so wrong... Hector is cherished as good son and good husband..
Achilles is known to be with a serious short coming whereas Ram is famous Ramo vigrahavan dharma means personified dharma (righteousness)

Bhishma is cherished for his vow of celibacy... Bishma means who as taken oath of doing impossible thing...

And one more thing calling some one Sonny doesn't make you Wiseman or old man when you churn out gibberish... Take care old young man.
 
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This is so refreshing!

An Indian is making movie on Lahore because Indians think Pakistan is not a country but a breakaway part of India. Its idiots like Mansha Pasha who play the other side to slam Pakistan.

With prevailing political environment in India, is natural they will try to culturally appropriate Pakistan. Our media industry must rise to the challenge and create superior content on web. we have no presence on web and that should be cause of concern. We have big media industry which churns out rubbish household content revolving around marriage or extra marital affairs within families.
 
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You cannot be so wrong... Hector is cherished as good son and good husband..
Achilles is known to be with a serious short coming whereas Ram is famous Ramo vigrahavan dharma means personified dharma (righteousness)

Bhishma is cherished for his vow of celibacy... Bishma means who as taken oath of doing impossible thing...

And one more thing calling some one Sonny doesn't make you Wiseman or old man when you churn out gibberish... Take care old young man.
As I said local masala added
But main thing in both stories
A Noble woman was abducted for whom demi gods and legendary heroes went out to fight a great mythical battle across a sea ram went to exile before Lanka

Odysseus after Troy
And they met fantastical beings during that time

So details altered and rearranged
 
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As I said local masala added
But main thing in both stories
A Noble woman was abducted for whom demi gods and legendary heroes went out to fight a great mythical battle across a sea ram went to exile before Lanka

Odysseus after Troy
And they met fantastical beings during that time

So details altered and rearranged
Great summarization skills for Ramayan. Can you summarize Mahabharat too and relate that to any Greek myth.
 
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Anyone from Pakistan should also make a movie on rapistan esp Delhi and Toilets
 
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As I said local masala added
But main thing in both stories
A Noble woman was abducted for whom demi gods and legendary heroes went out to fight a great mythical battle across a sea ram went to exile before Lanka

Odysseus after Troy
And they met fantastical beings during that time

So details altered and rearranged
Big NO.. As per the Star and Eclipse combination, Ramanya is at least 7000 yrs Old and Mahabharat refers to River Sarasvati which dried up 4000 yrs ago where as Trojan War was written around 800 BC.. Ramayana and Mahabarat are well before Iliad by Homer..

Mahabharat is also considered Fifth Veda it contains the core values prescribed by Vedas (ultimately culminates in to war but it talks about lot of aspects) where as Iliad is more of War
 
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This is so refreshing!

An Indian is making movie on Lahore because Indians think Pakistan is not a country but a breakaway part of India. Its idiots like Mansha Pasha who play the other side to slam Pakistan.

With prevailing political environment in India, is natural they will try to culturally appropriate Pakistan. Our media industry must rise to the challenge and create superior content on web. we have no presence on web and that should be cause of concern. We have big media industry which churns out rubbish household content revolving around marriage or extra marital affairs within families.
there's a time and a place for your "liberalism" and we can even get behind you
but surely dumba** this wasn't the time?
like think about it, no wonder Pakistanis dislike these weirdos...

and she isn't even a Lahori, so she probably didn't feel it as much, that's why the irresponsible comment
 
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This is so refreshing!

An Indian is making movie on Lahore because Indians think Pakistan is not a country but a breakaway part of India. Its idiots like Mansha Pasha who play the other side to slam Pakistan.

With prevailing political environment in India, is natural they will try to culturally appropriate Pakistan. Our media industry must rise to the challenge and create superior content on web. we have no presence on web and that should be cause of concern. We have big media industry which churns out rubbish household content revolving around marriage or extra marital affairs within families.
Sorry to say.. be proud of your own stuff
 
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Big NO.. As per the Star and Eclipse combination, Ramanya is at least 7000 yrs Old

1. Hinduism in India is only around 3000 years old so there is no question of Ramayana being 7000 years old. And do you really believe in the technologies described in the Mahabharata ( atomic weapons, satellite augmented internet, in vitro fertilization etc ) ?

2. It is most probably the Greeks who gave the Hindus knowledge of astronomy and since you talk about astrology in post# 94 my point will be that astrology is just a superstitious derivative of astronomy.

Achilles is known to be with a serious short coming whereas Ram is famous Ramo vigrahavan dharma means personified dharma (righteousness)

So "righteous" that he discarded his wife because of some people gossiping about her.
 
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