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Pakistan vs India : A quantitative comparision

:lol: wars are won or lost before they start.. Who do you think got Mukti Bahini to a level where it could fight you? You should read the book Kaoboys of RAW ;)

RAW was a hatchling back then, barely able to get out of its nest.
It was not RAW that funed Mukti Bahini, it was Indian Army and Indian Army spies in East Pakistan.

If you think RAW funded Mukti Bahini, you are watching too much 007. A Intelligence agencies main job is only to provide intel about other countries to its mother nation, the guns and bombs come from the army only.
 
Many indian members are talking about 1971. It should be understood, that in case of 1971 war, Pak Army in Bengal faced 1) Local population's hostility / resistance fighters 2) The Indian Army and Airforce (which outnumbered them almost 10:1) on that front. There were no supply routes, the land was almost 2000 km away from Pakistan's mainland, with a foreign population which was against the army and surrounded from 3 sides by India, and one side by Bay of Bengal in which Indian Aircraft carrier INS Vikrant was there. It would have been impossible for any army to fight in this condition, had there been the US army ...Indians and bengalis could have defeated them easily with odds in their own favor. 1971 war was like...imagine if Pakistan army defeats Indian army in Afghanistan somehow ( since Afghanistan has no land connection to India). It's not really a victory....India never defeated Pakistan in its mainland.

Who's fault is it that your country didn't prepare properly? You should have deployed your forces in both sectors judiciously, and made India fight a two front war. As @Bhairava once said, after failing the exam, if you make up excuses that you didn't prepare properly, you have still failed. It does you no credit to boast about how badly you planned your force deployments.

As for the presence of "resistance fighters", it is another feather in India's cap that RAW was able to train and organize mukti bahini batallions right under your nose.

It wasn't a foreign population by the way. It was your country. Why they were hostile to you is for you to ponder.
 
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Hey Indians you talking about Kashmir " That you are holding it for 6 decades " Let me remind you that we took half part of Kashmir under your nose. and the day is not far when Pakistan Radio would be broad casted from New Delhi InshAllah. Time is near
we are coming for you. Go find some place to hide.

Ya Time is near .. Pakistan radio will be bankrupted soon ..........and they will beg All India Radio to broadcast on their behalf ....InshAllah
 
Indians are neglecting the new Air craft carrier of Chinese navy which will also play a vital in a war time scenario. If India attacks it never know what response it will get.
Better stay in your limits or face the music.

plz dont make irrational comments.
 
Hey Indians you talking about Kashmir " That you are holding it for 6 decades " Let me remind you that we took half part of Kashmir under your nose. and the day is not far when Pakistan Radio would be broad casted from New Delhi InshAllah. Time is near
we are coming for you. Go find some place to hide.

naya naya josh aaya hai pdf ka.
sambhal jao.josh mein hosh na khoya karo.
 
India's superiority in the air is of no use. What happened in 2002 stand off? mumbai attacks ?

he he he sirji looks like you have acute cherry pikkin syndrom no problem sir with deu respects wht your rouges did in 2002 and in mumbai your paying dividends for the same on daily basis by blood of your own people (Target killing in karachee & daily bomb blasts & drone attacks) he he he and the biggest jolt u got was that you were no longer a good boy image to your western masters and now they all are siding with india he he he he :azn:
 
Here are neutral opinions on the result of the 1965 war. I guess they are all brainwashed, including the US library of congress.

According to the Library of Congress Country Studies conducted by the Federal Research Division of the United States[76] –
The war was militarily inconclusive; each side held prisoners and some territory belonging to the other. Losses were relatively heavy—on the Pakistani side, twenty aircraft, 200 tanks, and 3,800 troops. Pakistan's army had been able to withstand Indian pressure, but a continuation of the fighting would only have led to further losses and ultimate defeat for Pakistan. Most Pakistanis, schooled in the belief of their own martial prowess, refused to accept the possibility of their country's military defeat by "Hindu India" and were, instead, quick to blame their failure to attain their military aims on what they considered to be the ineptitude of Ayub Khan and his government.

TIME magazine reported that India held 690 mi2 of Pakistan territory while Pakistan held 250 mi2 of Indian territory in Kashmir and Rajasthan. Additionally, Pakistan had lost almost half its armour temporarily.[77] The article further elaborates,
Severely mauled by the larger Indian armed forces, Pakistan could continue the fight only by teaming up with Red China and turning its back on the U.N.

Devin T. Hagerty wrote in his book "South Asia in world politics"[78] –
The invading Indian forces outfought their Pakistani counterparts and halted their attack on the outskirts of Lahore, Pakistan's second-largest city. By the time United Nations intervened on September 22, Pakistan had suffered a clear defeat.

In his book "National identity and geopolitical visions",[79] Gertjan Dijkink writes –
The superior Indian forces, however, won a decisive victory and the army could have even marched on into Pakistani territory had external pressure not forced both combatants to cease their war efforts.

An excerpt from Stanley Wolpert's India,[80] summarizing the Indo-Pakistani War of 1965,
In three weeks the second Indo-Pak War ended in what appeared to be a draw when the embargo placed by Washington on U.S. ammunition and replacements for both armies forced cessation of conflict before either side won a clear victory. India, however, was in a position to inflict grave damage to, if not capture, Pakistan's capital of the Punjab when the cease-fire was called, and controlled Kashmir's strategic Uri-Poonch bulge, much to Ayub's chagrin.

In his book titled The greater game: India's race with destiny and China, David Van Praagh wrote[7] –
India won the war. It gained 1,840 km2 (710 sq mi) of Pakistani territory: 640 km2 (250 sq mi) in Azad Kashmir, Pakistan's portion of the state; 460 km2 (180 sq mi) of the Sailkot sector; 380 km2 (150 sq mi) far to the south of Sindh; and most critical, 360 km2 (140 sq mi) on the Lahore front. Pakistan took 540 km2 (210 sq mi) of Indian territory: 490 km2 (190 sq mi) in the Chhamb sector and 50 km2 (19 sq mi) around Khem Karan.

Dennis Kux's "India and the United States estranged democracies" also provides a summary of the war,[81]
Although both sides lost heavily in men and material, and neither gained a decisive military advantage, India had the better of the war. New Delhi achieved its basic goal of thwarting Pakistan's attempt to seize Kashmir by force. Pakistan gained nothing from a conflict which it had instigated.

BBC reported that the war served game changer in Pakistani politics,[82]
The defeat in the 1965 war led to the army's invincibility being challenged by an increasingly vocal opposition. This became a surge after his protege, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, deserted him and established the Pakistan People's Party.

"A region in turmoil: South Asian conflicts since 1947" by Robert Johnson mentions[8] –
India's strategic aims were modest – it aimed to deny Pakistani Army victory, although it ended up in possession of 720 square miles (1,900 km2) of Pakistani territory for the loss of just 220 square miles (570 km2) of its own.

An excerpt from William M. Carpenter and David G. Wiencek's "Asian security handbook: terrorism and the new security environment"[83] –
A brief but furious 1965 war with India began with a covert Pakistani thrust across the Kashmiri cease-fire line and ended up with the city of Lahore threatened with encirclement by Indian Army. Another UN-sponsored cease-fire left borders unchanged, but Pakistan's vulnerability had again been exposed.

English historian John Keay's "India: A History" provides a summary of the 1965 war[84] –
The 1965 Indo-Pak war lasted barely a month. Pakistan made gains in the Rajasthan desert but its main push against India's Jammu-Srinagar road link was repulsed and Indian tanks advanced to within a sight of Lahore. Both sides claimed victory but India had most to celebrate.

Uk Heo and Shale Asher Horowitz write in their book "Conflict in Asia: Korea, China-Taiwan, and India-Pakistan"[85] –
Again India appeared, logistically at least, to be in a superior position but neither side was able to mobilize enough strength to gain a decisive victory.

Newsweek magazine, however, praised the Pakistani military's ability to hold of the much larger Indian Army.[86]
By just the end of the week, in fact, it was clear that the Pakistanis were more than holding their own.


Now what do you think, India and the rest of the world are brainwashed? Or maybe, just maybe, it is Pakistanis who are brainwashed about history? This is why you shouldn't always learn history only from your mama.

i suppose those were Sunny Deol movie plot..:D
well from which part u entered???
u have defeat at sialkit sector...
at chonda sector ur 600 tanks were defeated....with pak 150 tanks....
kashmir sector u lost land....
ur navy was complyer at def in 1965..
ur Dwarka fort was destroyed by PN...
ur airforce was complete failure....
u went to UN with wet pants not we......
and still u beleive u won???
what an insane....
rajistan fort was captured by PA...
u started war at night without declaring it and can't even cross BVR cannal.....
soo which victory r u talking about???
well am not responsable for east pak..(bangladesh)
bt u surely need to study logical books....
wikki and a pack of indians r not gonna help u...
from where u got pak territory??
chonda,rajistan,lahore and sialkot was urs defeat...
u got some villages near lahore...
study tashkend agreement..
in sq miles territory given back to u was much more than territory u gave us back...
means we captured more territory...
soo we cap more territory,PN,PAF have clear victory and still if u think u won than consider again...
 
he he he sirji looks like you have acute cherry pikkin syndrom no problem sir with deu respects wht your rouges did in 2002 and in mumbai your paying dividends for the same on daily basis by blood of your own people (Target killing in karachee & daily bomb blasts & drone attacks) he he he and the biggest jolt u got was that you were no longer a good boy image to your western masters and now they all are siding with india he he he he :azn:

well thats a disgusting way to look at it.

have you no regard for human life?

do you think americans are doing india's job?

why cannot india do it herself is the real question to be posed.

and no they arent siding with india. else USA would have asked already for hafiz's head... but USA doesnt wanna risk allyship with pakistan for it.
 
well thats a disgusting way to look at it.

have you no regard for human life?

do you think americans are doing india's job?

why cannot india do it herself is the real question to be posed.

and no they arent siding with india. else USA would have asked already for hafiz's head... but USA doesnt wanna risk allyship with pakistan for it
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well sir with deu respects sir looks like most of the members from land of the pure thing onli lifes of there people are imp and often make fun of people killed during mumbai carnage well what do you think that those 10 terrorist did a great duty to pakitan lolzzz they pushed back all the commitment and integrity & conviction left for the Kashmiri cause in the eyes of the whole world try too look beyoynd your fav = Brassattacks , rupee news and likes owt there is a big big world whos consensus does matter cause they are your feeding hand :hitwall:

now about US doing Indias Job sir with deu respects again when you can use a needle to get your job done why use a sabre:azn:
 
well about the thread and OP well with all deu respects again these comparrisions dont matter as a Army Which uses its own people as cannon fodder and misguides both its citizens
(AMEER E SHEHER LOOT LETHA HAI GAREENBON KO KABHEE BALEE HA E MAZAB KABHEE BANAM E WATAN) , strategikk assets & allies alike so its genrals life style does not change

YOU WONT & cant do any thing you can keep on going with chest thumping and singing praises for your ARMY & your new Best Friend but Sir thing is you know your own reality stop trying to pamper your bruised ego with fancy dreams and comparrision and mocking others as it cant change your reality and your reality you know much better than we indians do and to all those who mock us at owr poverty well friends yes we are a poor country but that does not mean we dont do enof for owr defences and about poor we are openli fighting injustice (recent agitation about rapes), curruption(anna hazare & ramdev led movements) and deases(polio and measels irradication) and we will get results sooner than later we are not waiting fro a messiahh to rescue us from the situation and the whole world is siding with us in owr cause can u say the same about Land of The Pure Think

:cheers:
 
RAW was a hatchling back then, barely able to get out of its nest.
It was not RAW that funed Mukti Bahini, it was Indian Army and Indian Army spies in East Pakistan.

If you think RAW funded Mukti Bahini, you are watching too much 007. A Intelligence agencies main job is only to provide intel about other countries to its mother nation, the guns and bombs come from the army only.

Read the book...
 
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