Pakistan trashed over bogus claims of Indian terrorism

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

but Pakistani diplomats lie with such abandon with no respect to propriety that one can't help but not take anything they say on face value.

Lie about what?

And China, which frequently goes out of its way to VETO resolutions against UN designated terrorist groups and their hosts time and again, should be praised as saviors of humanity and showered with rose petals?

What a bunch of shameless hypocrites you guys are!

How about India first agrees to implement the existing UNSC Resolutions on the Kashmir Dispute, instead of complaining about the veto of resolutions by China?

 

[kadamba-warrior]

How about India first agrees to implement the existing UNSC Resolutions on the Kashmir Dispute, instead of complaining about the veto of resolutions by China?

REALLY?

That's easy! Now watch this!

 

[Ind4Ever]

Brainwashing at his best, thats the level of brainwashing among terrorist ranks. They also think that we are innocent and other are "Jalim"



Brainwashing at his best, thats the level of brainwashing among terrorist ranks. They also think that we are innocent and other are "Jalim"

Dude I should say that... Not you. Thanks for saving my time

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

And after that dignified exit they will again dump Pakistan as usual.India dont need any ones support in Afghanistan .One and half decades of good humanitarian investment already created enough good assets in Afghanistan.

It's an indian ruse. A clever one ("chanakya" at its finest") but one that's clearly failed. Doesnt mean endia would stop trying to leverage whatever it can, even if it entails becoming a nuisance/hindrance to reconciliation process. Building a few roads is helpful and welcome - but taking 4 million refugees is something I would call humanitarian per se

Number of terrorist organization that are flourishing in India clearly proves she is in a bigger mess and sitting on a ticking time bomb.

Punjab

1. Babbar Khalsa International (BKI)
2. International Sikh Youth Federation (ISYF)
3. Khalistan Zindabad Force (KZF)

1. 
   Arunachal Pradesh

1. Nationalist Socialist Council of Nagaland-Isak-Muivah (NSCN-IM)
2. Nationalist Socialist Council of Nagaland-Khaplang (NSCN-K)
3. National Liberation Council of Tani Land (NLCT)
4. Tani Land National Liberation Tigers (TLNLT)

1. 
   Assam

1. Kamtapur Liberation Organisation (KLO)
2. National Democratic Front of Bodoland (NDFB)
3. United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA)

1. 
   
   
   • Communist Party of India-Maoist (CPI-Maoist)
   • Harkat-ul-Mujahideen (HuM)
   • Jamaatul Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB)
   • IK Songbijit faction of National Democratic Front of Bodoland (NDFB-IKS)
   • Karbi People's Liberation Tigers (KPLT)
   • Muslim United Liberation Tigers of Assam (MULTA)
   • United Liberation Front of Asom-Independent (ULFA-I)

Manipur

1. 
   
   
   • Kangleipak Communist Party (KCP)
   • Kanglei Yawol Kanna Lup (KYKL)
   • Manipur People’s Liberation Front (MPLF)
   • People’s Revolutionary Party of Kangleipak (PREPAK)
   • People’s Liberation Army (PLA)
   • United National Liberation Front (UNLF)

1. 
   
   
   • Coordination Committee (CorCom) [six valley based groups]
   • Manipur Naga Revolutionary Front (MNRF)
   • National Socialist Council of Nagaland -- Isak-Muivah (NSCN-IM)
   • Nationalist Socialist Council of Nagaland-Khaplang (NSCN-K)
   • People's United Liberation Front (PULF)
   • Zeliangrong United Front

1. 
   
   
   • 
     Mizoram

1. 
   
   
   • 
     Hmar People's Convention- Democracy (HPC-D)

1. 
   
   
   • 
     Meghalaya

1. 
   
   
   • 
     Garo National Liberation Army (GNLA)

1. 
   
   
   • Achik National Liberation Army (ANLA)
   • Achick Songa An'pachakgipa Kotok (ASAK)
   • Achik National Liberation Co-operative Army (ANLCA)
   • Achik Tiger Force (ATF)
   • Achik National United Force (ANUF)
   • Hynniewtrep National Liberation Council (HNLC)
   • Liberation of Achik Elite Force (LAEF

1. 
   
   
   • 
     Nagaland

1. 
   
   
   • Federal Government of Nagaland-Non-Accordist (FGN-NA)
   • Federal Government of Nagaland -Accordist (FGN-A)
   • National Socialist Council of Nagaland (Khaplang) – NSCN (K)
   • Nationalist Socialist Council of Nagaland-Reformation (NSCN-R)
   • Non-Accordist faction of Naga National Council (NNC-NA)
   • Naga National Council-Accordist (NNC-Accordist)

1. 
   
   
   • 
     Tripura

1. 
   
   
   • All Tripura Tiger Force (ATTF)
   • National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT)

Kashmir

1. 
   
   
   • Al Badr
   • Al Umar Mujahideen (AuM)
   • Dukhtaran-e-Millat (DeM)
   • Front Organisations of Terrorist Groups Active in Jammu and Kashmir
   • Harkat-ul Mujahideen [(HuM), previously known as Harkat-ul-Ansar (HuA)]
   • Harkat-ul-Jehad-i-Islami(HuJI)
   • Hizb-ul-Mujahideen (HM)
   • Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM)
   • Jamait-ul-Mujahideen (JuM)
   • Jammu and Kashmir Islamic Front (JKIF)
   • Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT)

1. 
   
   
   • All Parties Hurriyat Conference (APHC)
   • Jammu & Kashmir Liberation Front (JKLF)
   • Lashkar-e-Jabbar (LeJ)
   • Lashkar-e-Omar (LeO)
   • Mutahida Jehad Council [(MJC) , also known as United Jehad Council (UJC)]
   • Tehrik-ul-Mujahideen (TuM

1. 
   
   
   • 
     Other terrorist groups

1. 
   
   
   • Al-Qaida
   • Akhil Bharat Nepali Ekta Samaj (ABNES)
   • Deendar Anjuman
   • Indian Mujahideen, all its formations and front organizations
   • Islamic State/Islamic State of Iraq and Levant /Islamic State of Iraq and Syria/Daish, and all its Manifestations
   • Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE)
   • Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI)
   • Tamil Nadu Liberation Army (TNLA)
   • Tamil National Retrieval Troops (TNRT)
   • Organisations listed in the Schedule to the U.N. Prevention and Suppression of Terrorism (Implementation of Security Council Resolutions) Order, 2007 made under section 2 of the United Nations (Security Council) Act, 1947 and amended from time to time

Total 71
India - Terrorist Groups

And I have not yet mentioned hundreds of inactive groups that may get active whenever they feel suitable for them.

Purpose of sharing this if after having all this shit inside her India still can claim Pakistan did everything that happened in India why cant Pakistan do the same?

the real tragedy with the indians is that they point fingers at other and obsess over what others do but go through great pains to forcefully ignore/overlook the swathes of territory within their own country afflicted by separatism/ethnic problems/rebellion

Dantewada anyone?? What happened there in a single day!

 

[Wolf]

Huh? Do you even have an iota of PROOF? NO! If yes show it here and now or you need to pipe down! And by the way, the Mukthi Bahini were NOT terrorists as you contend. They were freedom fighters fighting tyranny and took India's help to prevent further genocide of Bengalis.

huh huu haa. go listen to your nsa speech. sam manekshaws interview with karan thapar, yuri bezmenov interview on east Pakistan crisis, ur defence minister parikar regarding india will chose time and event to attack,sharmila bose book on east Pakistan, Abdul Momin Chaudhry, (a bengali) articles, R K Yadav former raw operative.

Ur some kind of "shedai" or what. stop following into joseph goebbels philosopy

 

[SrNair]

It's an indian ruse. A clever one ("chanakya" at its finest") but one that's clearly failed. Doesnt mean endia would stop trying to leverage whatever it can, even if it entails becoming a nuisance/hindrance to reconciliation process. Building a few roads is helpful and welcome - but taking 4 million refugees is something I would call humanitarian per se



the real tragedy with the indians is that they point fingers at other and obsess over what others do but go through great pains to forcefully ignore/overlook the swathes of territory within their own country afflicted by separatism/ethnic problems/rebellion

Dantewada anyone?? What happened there in a single day!

RIP that legend .
Of Course 4 million refugees and still they hates you more than anyone else .
Look at that dam and other power projects.Your refugee intaking or usual ignorance of ' few ' roads cant change that close relation.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

REALLY?

That's easy! Now watch this!

Don't need to watch anything - has the current Modi government or past Congress government explicitly and officially stated India's intent to implement the UNSC Resolutions on Kashmir or not?

 

[kadamba-warrior]

Don't need to watch anything - has the current Modi government or past Congress government explicitly and officially stated India's intent to implement the UNSC Resolutions on Kashmir or not?

Why should they? Wasn't the FIRST step to be taken up by Pakistan by vacating the occupied lands?

After all, it was in India's interests to keep quiet while Pakistan was committing a strategic blunder by not following through with the necessary conditions of the UN Resolutions that would have forced India to act on its part of the obligations.

Pakistan, acting on its own insecurities, didn't vacate the occupied areas (which was the first and necessary condition for holding the plebiscite) but keeps shouting from the rooftops that India should conduct plebiscite? How naive can you get?

Now wait till India turns back and explains how the plebiscite can NEVER be conducted (and justifiably so, because Pakistan and her proxies f*cked up with the whole native demography on both sides of the LOC)!

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Why should they? Wasn't the FIRST step to be taken up by Pakistan by vacating the occupied lands?

You can't even debate 'first steps' as long as the GoI's official position is to not implement the UNSC Resolutions on Kashmir.

 

[Alpha Fighter]

You can't even debate 'first steps' as long as the GoI's official position is to not implement the UNSC Resolutions on Kashmir.

We are not debating, you are calling for UN , which you shouldn't, as you have never met or don't wanna meet first step.

 

[kadamba-warrior]

You can't even debate 'first steps' as long as the GoI's official position is to not implement the UNSC Resolutions on Kashmir.

If you had taken the first steps, perhaps the GoI would have been compelled to follow through with it's part. Without your 'first' step, speculating what GoI would have done is all conjecture at this point!

But isn't it preposterous on your part to expect India to hold Plebiscite ignoring all the preconditions for it?

Makes me wonder if Pakistan was really serious about Plebiscite. How else do you explain this blunder and playing right into India's hands?

 

[Mukunda Murthi Rao]

Lie about what?


How about India first agrees to implement the existing UNSC Resolutions on the Kashmir Dispute, instead of complaining about the veto of resolutions by China?

Have u even read the UNSC resolution on kashmir? Or have u repeated a lie so much u think its the truth? I am amazed at ur ignorance?
The first step is for pakistan to remove all the combatants from the whole of kashmir, then india has to take over, maintain a force for law and order and then only the plebiscite will be conducted. U never took the first step. So just think a hundred times before u use the term plebiscite l.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

We are not debating, you are calling for UN , which you shouldn't, as you have never met or don't wanna meet first step.

If you had taken the first steps, perhaps the GoI would have been compelled to follow through with it's part. Without your 'first' step, speculating what GoI would have done is all conjecture at this point!

But isn't it preposterous on your part to expect India to hold Plebiscite ignoring all the preconditions for it?

Makes me wonder if Pakistan was really serious about Plebiscite. How else do you explain this blunder and playing right into India's hands?

There is no point talking about 'first steps', or second or third, if the Indian government refuses to even abide by its obligations as a UN Member State and implement the UNSC Resolutions on Kashmir.

Second, Christine Fair's position that Pakistan is required to undertake some kind of unconditional, unilateral, total withdrawal is incorrect, as I have argued in the discussion on this thread:

https://defence.pk/threads/pakistan...agreement-sources.392233/page-10#post-7528125

 

[Alpha Fighter]

There is no point talking about 'first steps', or second or third, if the Indian government refuses to even abide by its obligations as a UN Member State and implement the UNSC Resolutions on Kashmir.

Second, Christine Fair's position that Pakistan is required to undertake some kind of unconditional, unilateral, total withdrawal is incorrect, as I have argued in the discussion on this thread:

https://defence.pk/threads/pakistan...agreement-sources.392233/page-10#post-7528125

lol, India not refused initially and fore few years, that time PAK refused for the same. after 30-40 years you started remember UN.

What stopped you for Vote in 47?

 

[Mukunda Murthi Rao]

There is no point talking about 'first steps', or second or third, if the Indian government refuses to even abide by its obligations as a UN Member State and implement the UNSC Resolutions on Kashmir.



Its only after shimla agreement pak started screaming plebiscite. Its like u urself never wanted kashmir resolved. Y didnt pak take the first step before that even though nehru wanted the plebiscite. He reiterated it whenever he went to kashmir.
U signed the shimla agreement, either u say loud and clear u will dishonour the agreement else forger about the plebiscite.