What's new

Pakistan today has successfully tested Hatf 4 Shaheen 1A

Their is nothing new in launch of A2 its just a routine launch, But development trial of A4 & A5 also schedule for this month, we just recently tested long range cruise missile as well.
India has different strategic objectives and goals and Pakistan different. It will be plain stupid to assume that Pakistan will develop and test its missile systems (or other weapon systems for that matter) vis-à-vis India. Pakistan needs to maintain a minimum deterrent/retaliatory system and so far she is going good.
 
.
It looks like they are decreasing every missile's range. Shaheen 1A had more than 1000km Range. Shaheen 2 was more than 1500Km. Theres nothing to be proud of Anymore :(

Its not my field of expertise, but range is not the most important factor in a missile's effectiveness. There are a million other systems besides engine power. If they are testing, I am sure they are not just doing it for the sake of testing. Accuracy, control and a million other parameters get tested.

Secondly, IMO Pak doesn't need to test missiles that go beyond India at this time. Why would you want to make Israel, US and the West in general uncomfortable?
 
.
guys we need to strengthen our navy.. we need destroyers and submarines .. sub cable of firing ballistic missile... we dont need to spend more money on shaheens and ghorees .. who else agree??
 
.
Mecca??are you serious??? anyways...LOL :p

Maybe it's due to environmental reasons. Long range missile burn longer, thus giving off more exhaust gases which could be toxic.
Or maybe economic reasons, becuase long range missiles need more fuel.
Or religious, becuase it could mean Mecca could come under the missile range..
 
.
India has different strategic objectives and goals and Pakistan different. It will be plain stupid to assume that Pakistan will develop and test its missile systems (or other weapon systems for that matter) vis-à-vis India. Pakistan needs to maintain a minimum deterrent/retaliatory system and so far she is going good.

Where I said that Pakistan need to match India?

I quote your post because you ask about new system in A2.
 
.
And what is new about Agni-II? Was this the first launch of a brand new Agni-II? You Sir see a long pointed cylinder flying vertically, whereas those who are into this business test things other than the simple flight (which is not simple anyway) of a missile. Test flights are done to verify the readiness of the system, its capability to reach the target undetected/un-intercepted, and ability to deliver the payload accurately. Weapon systems are continuously improved for enhancements and only because you get to see a pointed cylinder in same color scheme does not mean the strategic force is celebrating Shab-barat or shooting missiles for amusement purposes.
Agni 2 is obsolete and may be soon will be replaced by Sagarika missile.

We have tested Astra(BVR),Nirbhay(CM),Agni5(Ballistic missile),K15(SLBM),Nag(Anti tank),Helina(Air Launched anti tank missile),BARAK8(LRSAM),Akash(SAM) till now in this year.
A5 and A4 can be tested again this year.
 
Last edited:
.
And what is new about Agni-II? Was this the first launch of a brand new Agni-II? You Sir see a long pointed cylinder flying vertically, whereas those who are into this business test things other than the simple flight (which is not simple anyway) of a missile. Test flights are done to verify the readiness of the system, its capability to reach the target undetected/un-intercepted, and ability to deliver the payload accurately. Weapon systems are continuously improved for enhancements and only because you get to see a pointed cylinder in same color scheme does not mean the strategic force is celebrating Shab-barat or shooting missiles for amusement purposes.

Actually new version of Agni-2 called Agni-4 nowdays. Like new RV, possibly Mk.4. And new propulsion.
 
Last edited:
.
Lol Once again the same missile. Come on Pakistan show us something new. This is getting too boring, with India leaving Pakistan faaar behind. I miss those days when where there was India-Pakistan missile race.

Another idiotic comment by sardar whose peoples are a state less persecuted poor villagers that nobody gives a shit about.

Pakistan does not need any further "new" missiles...We already have everything we wanted! Entire indian strategic targets covered.

Range isn't the problem now. Now Pakistan should move to improving current designs..like improved fuel grains, more use of composite materials in construction of ballistic missile body, maneuverable warheads etc.

And that's what you see with Shaheen-1A...

Shaheen-1A has improved fuel grain and more composites than original Shaheen-1
 
.
Another idiotic comment by sardar whose peoples are a state less persecuted poor villagers that nobody gives a shit about.

Pakistan does not need any further "new" missiles...We already have everything we wanted! Entire indian strategic targets covered.

Range isn't the problem now. Now Pakistan should move to improving current designs..like improved fuel grains, more use of composite materials in construction of ballistic missile body, maneuverable warheads etc.

And that's what you see with Shaheen-1A...

Shaheen-1A has improved fuel grain and more composites than original Shaheen-1
Well you could still build an air defence missile, air to air missile. You have covered entire India, but have you covered entire range of missiles. Lol Btw don't spew hate about religion. You will be banned.
 
. .
Well you could still build an air defence missile, air to air missile. You have covered entire India, but have you covered entire range of missiles. Lol Btw don't spew hate about religion. You will be banned.

And who will provide resources for that? LOL!

There is opportunity cost to everything. We can, and have, bought bestest of the best Air-to-Air missiles in the world (AIM-120C series)...so why use limited resources on building these weapons when our resources can be put to a more effective use?

Our "home-built" air-to-air missiles won't deter a country of billion...but our nuclear strike forces armed with sophisticated home-built strategic nuclear missiles like Shaheen series will and it has!

So we are doing mighty fine there, kiddo.

Yes, our SAM coverage is not up to the task. I agree with that..
 
.
Good to know that we are updating our existing missile with upgrades.

It seems like this is the mass produced variant of shaheen IA or it may enter into mass production onwards this test
 
. . .
NOTAM

A1869/14 - DUE TO LONG/INTERMEDIATE RANGE MISSILE FRNG TEST BY PAKISTAN WI AREA BOUNDED BY COORD: 254500N 0661940E 251622.8N 0671031.6E 171331.6N 0614732.5E 174125.1N 0605859.8E 254500N 0661940E NO OVERFLYING ACT PERMITTED IN MUMBAI FIR WI ABV MENTIONED AREA. THE FLW ATS ROUTES ARE NOT AVBL 1. L301 BTN LADOT AND RASKI 2. N571 BTN DOGET AND PARAR 3. P574 BTN BOLIS AND TOTOX 4. N563 BTN KATBI AND REXOD 5. M300 BTN KADOL AND LOTAV 6. P570 BTN LATEB AND KITAL 7. L894 BTN BOLUR AND KITAL 8. L516 BTN IBVUB AND KITAL 9. T208 BTN BOLUR AND ASPUX. GND/MSL - UNL, BTN 0400-0700 DLY, 17 NOV 04:00 2014 UNTIL 19 NOV 07:00 2014. CREATED: 07 NOV 11:54 2014

A1146/14 - FOLLOWING INTERNATIONAL ATS ROUTES WITHIN KARACHI FIR WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE DUE OPERATIONAL REASONS: INTERNATIONAL ATS ROUTES ROUTE SEGMENT ------------------------ ------------- A325/A454/G208 KARACHI-PARET G210/M638 PANJGUR-KARACHI P518 KABIM-PARET N894 LATEM-TELEM A791/G216 LATEM-KARACHI M504 ALPOR-GOGUM ALTENATE ROUTE: --------------- I) JIWANI/ASVIB/KEBUD-PANJGUR-NAWABSHAH-KARACHI AND VICE VERSA. II) JIWANI/ASVIB/KEBUD-PANJGUR-NAWABSHAH-TELEM. III)KE-NAWABSHAH-PANJGUR-JIWANI/ASVIB/KEBUD. IV) SAPNA-KARACHI-NAWABSHAH-PANJGUR-JIWANI/ASVIB/ KEBUD AND VICE VERSA. GND - UNL, FM 17-19 NOV 14 BTN 0400-0700, 17 NOV 04:00 2014 UNTIL 19 NOV 07:00 2014. CREATED: 07 NOV 07:11 2014

C0291/14 - FOLLOWING DOMESTIC ATS ROUTES WITHIN KARACHI FIR WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE DUE OPERATIONAL REASONS: DOMESTIC ATS ROUTE ROUTE SEGMENT ------------------ ------------- J167 KARACHI-PUNEL J172 KARACHI-KODAR J218 DOSTI-KARACHI J117/J215 KARACHI-PARET J120/J219 LATEM-KARACHI J170 LOTAT-KARACHI. GND - UNL, FM 17-19 NOV 14 BTN 0400-0700, 17 NOV 04:00 2014 UNTIL 19 NOV 07:00 2014. CREATED: 07 NOV 06:55 2014

64739244661006364[1].png

new.JPG
 
.

Latest posts

Pakistan Defence Latest Posts

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom