Pakistan to reform blood money law

[Super Falcon]

"Might is Right" that's the superior thinking and fact all over the world.

Just changing this law that you can't accept blood money doesn't mean that killers coming from influential families will be held accountable. Threats will still be given, and families will "forgive" the killers.

The fact that a life is worth only 7 years is despicable.

Thousands of small scale farmers in Sindh now work for the feudals, even though they own the land, what can they do they believe themselves powerless. That's the core problem, people (the majority) believe them selves as powerless to a minority.

Agreeed but it dosent mean that we give them walk in a park type law once in a while theg will be enforced i support with current situation we need to make this law if not more it will stop by 50 percent which is good given our society condition

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

Agreeed but it dosent mean that we give them walk in a park type law once in a while theg will be enforced i support with current situation we need to make this law if not more it will stop by 50 percent which is good given our society condition

So, let me get this straight.

The people who will be making this new 'law' are the same ones that have been using the 'old law' to get preferential treatment.

This reminds me of the new law that will allow the spouses and children of ex ministers to get the special Blue passports rather than the Green Passports.

 

[Bratva]

They are either out of court settlement in civil suits or plea deals in exchange of providing information to nab the bigger fishes for a reduced sentence or kind of a bluff when the prosecution does not have enough evidence for a favorable verdict. The same principle is in practice in all the countries.

I haven't heard of waiving off sentencing for a criminal act in exchange for money in US.

Does US follow religious laws ?

Qisas doesn't apply to all murders either... It can only be used in specific cases under specific circumstances..
It is not applicable to cases registered under "tazer". Etc..

And whee it is applicable it is entirely upto the heirs of the victim to go for it or not...!




And none are applied or enforced correctly....

Blasphemy laws protect all religions not just Islam.


Hudud ordinance is also to protect women.

Ban on alcohol consumption (for Muslim citizens) is hardly enforced.

Etx.

You are right. As Ayyah say, Death by mistake, which is most applicable in traffic accidents or in anger someone beat or push the other to cause him harm but he died. This is murder by mistake.

Premeditated murder doesnot and shouldnot come under Qisas laws at all !

 

[sparten]

Even currently, the law does not permit a murderer to get away scot free, the Court can continue if it is in the interests if justice to do so. The problem is that Judges have proved to be too glad to simply pad their disposal numbers and not coincidentally avoid a very lengthy and expensive murder trial.

The fact that they now will cause the concept to attach upon sentence, rather then upon indictment will curtail abuses. Hopefully.

 

[insight-out]

Most people confuse Hudood with Shariah. These are two different things, the first being a small subset of the second.

Shariah law, like any other law is as good as the people enforcing it. Corrupt people will find ways to enact and enforce laws that will serve them and perpetuate their power, even if the laws have fancy Islamic sounding names.

It is important to recognize that Shariah is not a magic bullet that will solve all of society's problems. Rather it is a legal system that is meant to maintain law and order after citizens have decided to adopt an Islamic way of life. Social change must precede Sharia (bottom up). Shariah imposed on an unwilling citizenry (top down) will not work.

Unfortunately, in Pakistan's 68 year history, most "Islamic" oriented groups and leaders have sought to impose Shariah from the top when the populace is unprepared or unwilling.

 

[Hiptullha]

Yes, but the Quran itself says:

4:92: And not is for a believer that he kills a believer except (by) mistake. And whoever killed a believer (by) mistake, then freeing (of) a believing slave and blood money (is to be) paid to his family unless that they remit (as) charity. But if (he) was from a people hostile to you and he was a believer then freeing (of) a believing slave. And if (he) was from a people between you and between them, (is) a treaty, then blood money (is to be) paid to his family, and freeing (of) a believing slave. And whoever (does) not find, then fasting (for) two months consecutively, (seeking) repentance from Allah, and Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.

Sounds more like in the case of manslaughter than outright murder.

 

[Mrc]

Without going into hyge discussion, no qisas can be payed in first degree murders and until culprit is found guilty (or confesses) and punishment is handed over (death penality)...
Its before carrying out of punishment that victims next of kin has a right to forgive (in lieu of money or without) not before that time...
This right be excercised with free will without durass or harassment (state must ensure) ...or it cannot be if free will cannot be guarenteed....

In pakistan currently state cannot guarentee safety... so qisas law should not apply till such time.....

I think and hope changes suggested will make above amendments atleast in part as also suggested by printed article

 

[M.AsfandYar]

Ignorance at its Best in this thread.

 

[SHAMK9]

God damn this country has stupidest laws on earth

 

[ConcealCarry]

before we criticize the law, we need to understand it fully. According to Islamic law killing someone (in whatever way) results in death penalty, now some killings can be un-intentional or accidental, in such cases the heirs of the deceased have the right/option to forgive the killer on pure humanitarian grounds (the killer has young kids and or old parents, he is the only bread earner, is of good character and not a criminal and the death was not the result of a crime) in exchange for blood money, this not only helps in avoiding devastation of the killer's family but also secures financial support for the deceased person's family who might also be the only bread earner for his family. The court (through a jury of at least 20 people) MUST have the authority to rule whether a murder case is eligible for settlement through "forgiveness through blood money" No killer who commits a murder during execution of a crime or terrorism or as a result of illegal activity such as aerial firing, driving under influence, driving without license, or any other activity which he is illegal in nature should ever qualify for such settlement.

Murders by Raymond Davis and murder of Shahzeb were pure cold blooded intentional murders.. They should not have been allowed to be settled through forgiveness in exchange of blood money.

 

[insight-out]

According to Islamic law killing someone (in whatever way) results in death penalty,

Are you sure of that? That's a rather bold generalization. There certainly are circumstantial exceptions.

 

[RealNapster]

matlb sunny leone ne Nach Nach kay kaha ky BE-hayae khatam karo...

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Good move , person should not decide , becasue we do not have sharia law.

 

[wiseone2]

And what about the plea deals that happens in US justice system ?

plea deals are never for money

 

[VCheng]

plea deals are never for money

No, but it is a preferred strategy to start pointing the blame finger elsewhere rather that at the true faults.