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Pakistan, the Saudis’ Indispensable Nuclear Partner

does it even matter ? we should be putting out own Country's Interest first ... we have border with Iran , and i am sure that Pakistan will not want Iran to increase its Dirty Proxy wars deep within Pakistan ...
because unfortunately we Pakistanis are Idiots ... we will love to kill our own people for some Ayutullah's and Mullah;s of KSA and Iran

I think you mis-interpreted my post.

It matters, because, to know the real enemy is always useful ...

I fully agree with not to get involved in this mess...and it is not our mess anyway (in fact the Saudis, if they had any brain, would and should have avoided it as well and should have chosen alternative solutions).

We should stay away from the dirty proxy wars and focus on our economy, education, defense, social cohesion etc. etc. etc.
 
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I think you mis-interpreted my post.

It matters, because, to know the real enemy is always useful ...

I fully agree with not to get involved in this mess...and it is not our mess anyway (in fact the Saudis, if they had any brain, would and should have avoided it as well and should have chosen alternative solutions).

We should stay away from the dirty proxy wars and focus on our economy, education, defense, social cohesion etc. etc. etc.

i do understand your post to some level i guess :D haha
but yeah i agree with you , there is always a second way to take out your nose from the pie pot :D
 
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Agree with him or disagree with him, Hoodbhoy is Pakistans most highly cited living physicist, his opinions should be noted.
U cannot be a good political analyst even U have phd even grade 10 knows how nuclear weapons works .this idiot is new kid in town I know he is phd in physics but it does not mean U r good political analyst .

There r two kind of vibes who r opposing pak and saudi relation one is west who does not want army to look somewhere except taliban all these ASOLs so called liberals R touting on american behalf even few article been recycled in different papers .second group is iranian parrots which R quite a few numbers on this forum and social media .
 
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They have the two holy mosques, we simply cannot sit idle if KSA is attacked. It completely kills the very purpose of our existence.
Your life's existence is purposeless if the two mosques are attacked?
 
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Sure, KSA as a state, it's rulers, it's neighbours, it's current entity and our relations with regards to these all have the capacity to change. But the defence, upkeep and betterment of the Holy land is Pakistan's concern.

It is only Pakistan's concern when Saudi nation is threatened. And today that is not the case that we dispatch our firepower for them. Saudis have provided us oil, money and other diplomatic goodies when we needed it, which we all appreciate. However sending your men for a ground invasion of another foreign territory is a different ball game, which many have a hard time comprehending. A solution to this could be that Saudi Forces themselves get deployed in Yemen, while the slack within Saudi Arabia is taken over by Pakistani Army so that there is no threat from within.

Your life's existence is purposeless if the two mosques are attacked?

Why do fools like you have to comment on threads that have nothing to do with you?
 
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The Nuclear Cat is coming out of the Bag. what saudi has not? They have everything that exists in the world.... but God is great.
 
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It is only Pakistan's concern when Saudi nation is threatened. And today that is not the case that we dispatch our firepower for them. Saudis have provided us oil, money and other diplomatic goodies when we needed it, which we all appreciate. However sending your men for a ground invasion of another foreign territory is a different ball game, which many have a hard time comprehending. A solution to this could be that Saudi Forces themselves get deployed in Yemen, while the slack within Saudi Arabia is taken over by Pakistani Army so that there is no threat from within.

We need to keep well away from that war. Also, that solution is no good, the Saudis and GCC ground forces are not capable of taking on an insurgency and winning, especially long term. That's why they need us, IF that is indeed their intention and aim for the war.
 
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I think Pakistan's reluctance to join Yemen war shattered the myth of KSA having bought nuclear warheads, but it is still possible that Pakistan's nuclear umbrella extends to KSA. A threat to the two mosques is serious enough to spark a rebellion in Pakistan.
????????? Like what rebellion?

No, there is no threat as of yet. But hypothetically speaking, if ever there was, it is of our concern. And an going presence, assurance and agreement is part of that. We need not commit ourselves to the misadventures of the Middle East and it's mad people.
Saudi petro dollar continue to fund the military in diverse ways. Its too risky to just walk away. Why Raheel Shareef is going to KSA? Saudies and GCC are anguish at both Nawaz and especially the army. Saudies may have start thinking of Pakistan rebuffing them like She did to Libya who funded Pakistan's nuke program in hopes to get the tech and know how someday. But that day never came, so Libiya has been hostile to Pakistan eversince. They haven't forgotten the betrayal yet.
 
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Saudi petro dollar continue to fund the military in diverse ways. Its too risky to just walk away. Why Raheel Shareef is going to KSA? Saudies and GCC are anguish at both Nawaz and especially the army. Saudies may have start thinking of Pakistan rebuffing them like She did to Libya who funded Pakistan's nuke program in hopes to get the tech and know how someday. But that day never came, so Libiya has been hostile to Pakistan eversince. They haven't forgotten the betrayal yet.

Abandoning them or turning our backs is no good either. A fine balance needs to be made between that and overcommitting to a damaging and unresolved war. And it will be unresolved, you can bet on that.
 
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Abandoning them or turning our backs is no good either. A fine balance needs to be made between that and overcommitting to a damaging and unresolved war. And it will be unresolved, you can bet on that.
The point is they never wanted a "balancing act" from Pakistan. Pakistan effectively offered them the same level of support as did India i.e. nothing but lip service. And its evident as how they busted open Pakistan and Turkey's desire to "Mediate"......The moment of truth has passed. And now everything's gonna be beating about the bush. Pakistan stayed on sidelines when they needed her the most i.e. before UN sanctions slammed on Hauties. Now even the US carrier is there in the gulf to supplement UN's order-the same mandate under which the PN's ships have been dispatched-.
 
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