Pakistan Successfully Tested Babur 3 Cruise Missile launch from Submarine : ISPR

[Dalit]

If it's not a PN submarine, shouldn't it be the cause of even more concern for the Indian folks???

The Indians are still arguing about the color of the missile LOL We will have to wait for denial to change into reality. It is a difficult and painful process. Will require time to sink in.

 

[Penguin]

I just read one of your post and it gave me the impression that you are clearly not happy with something. The amount of posts does not define your craziness, I usually like your posts but this time you seem a little disturbed.

What disturbs me is the behavior of one particular poster, who attempts to make out as if I denied Pakistan's existing capability's and who is unable to cope with the fact that one should remain properly cautious in the absense of hard evidence. In short, he makes it into a personal thing, whic it isn't and never was for me. Otherwise congrats Pakistan. Hope you don't mind if I still continue to use my brain, festivities notwithstanding.

 

[Dungeness]

Congratulations, Pakistan brothers! What a way to start a new year!

 

[Penguin]

Do they need to say that? Isn't it obvious?

I don't take anthing for granted. It was suggested by 'green bleeding' members that at least some Pak missile tests occurred in other countries. If so, then why would it not be a possibility that a foreign sub conducted the firing? I did not say that was the case, I inquired if that was a possibility, given the peculiar description 'underwater, mobile platform'.

 

[The Deterrent]

http://m.ispr.gov.pk/front/main.asp?o=t-press_release&latest=1

Dated: January 9, 2017
No PR14/2017-ISPR
Rawalpindi - January 9, 2017:
Pakistan conducted its first successful test fire of Submarine Launched Cruise Missile (SLCM) Babur-3 having a range of 450 kilometers, from an undisclosed location in the Indian Ocean

And yes I have read the notam which was issued I believe last week and as far as I remember, it expired.

Unless, people in ISPR don't know the difference between Arabian Sea and Indian ocean, which I don't think they are that dumb, as it stands, Indian ocean was the source of launch.

The Indian Ocean starts about 1500km out from Pakistani coast. They are not dumb, they just like to jumble up things.

 

[JamD]

The Indian Ocean starts about 1500km out from Pakistani coast. They are not dumb, they just like to jumble up things.

I am quite sure the Arabian Sea is PART OF THE INDIAN OCEAN. A lot of folks here seem to be confused about this. Not that it matters. We have the NOTAM.

 

[The Deterrent]

As we r testing missile from sea to land , so maybe there is no need to set NOTAMs

Nope, any sort of test weapon firing at this scale without issuing corresponding warnings to the air and naval traffic can simply not be done. It is the part of the relevant party's standard operating procedure.

 

[Talha Asif]

 

[Arabic_Ottoman]

Congrats. Any information on what type of submarine carried the missile?.

 

[Penguin]

technically, YES!

Nop, because the encapsulated missile itself doesn 't fire while under water. It only fires after its capsule breaches the surface. The capsule is ejected by the submarine and goes up to the surface without tapping into the power of the missile..

 

[Mrc]

just by looking at the accuracy , hiting a red flag pole erected in middle of desert, it can be presumed its not the first test of the system....

its pretty much a mature system

 

[Star Expedition]

It proves that Pak is a safe and secure place for work and investment

 

[The Eagle]

The statements that I read and noted a bit of information, I will ink down my observations as following. (Not my field at all). First of all, by the grace of ALLAH, we have the capability of Second Strike by Babur-III.

1. If it was the first test then obviously we wouldn't risk one of our Sub because, there are always possibilities of technical glitches or error so Sub cannot be risked, therefore, in layman's terms, a replica like Sub (a platform representing Sub) with same style of launch, tube push, ejection is used and every bit of details and readings are noted for finalization etc purpose. As a platform, not an original Sub, is used then still the weapon be called as SLCM due to its purpose and method as well as real goal. By doing so, finally taking everything into account, the weapon become mature and can be launched from original/targeted Sub and be called operational as successful in final test hence induction.
2. The weapon is being tested extensively for time to time to it's real/aimed and targeted results and once every thing is finalized/trusted after all checkups, is being tested again from original launch platform on the basis of all previous tests from replica/test platform.
3. It is true that a new weapon will not be tested from original platform directly but has to reach to such stage after trials through test platform.
4. As @Rashid Mahmood said, test was done almost 2 years ago, actually tells that this weapon matured through test platform during 2 years hence finally launched from original Sub hence is equal to having the capability in final stage.
5. If we go by the term launched from underwater platform so it may be the same launching platform called as replica in this post, to finalize the launch, weapon, tube exit etc and then, as results are satisfactory, will again be tested from original Sub (Augosta 90B etc).
6. The confusion w.r.t. launch platform will be more clear in coming days but professional and informed posters words are to be taken as credible for the moment as well by looking at accuracy of hitting the target, seems like a lot of work is already done and many readings were available from previous tests.

@Oscar @Khafee @Rashid Mahmood @The Deterrent

 

[Dalit]

just by looking at the accuracy , hiting a red flag pole erected in middle of desert, it can be presumed its not the first test of the system....

its pretty much a mature system

Most definitely. This missile has been through rigorous testing before. The accuracy is simply put stupendous. There is no other explanation for this kind of pinpoint accuracy which can only be achieved through extensive trial and error.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

The Indian Ocean starts about 1500km out from Pakistani coast. They are not dumb, they just like to jumble up things.

I know where Arabian sea start. Indian ocean naval capability is proper blue water navy territory.

Another way to look at it, just like shaheen 3 was officially never one kilometer above stated 2750 km range, which we all know is complete bollocks, Babur has been reported 1500km+ range, which fits into stated Indian ocean launch.