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Pakistan Successfully Tested Babur 3 Cruise Missile launch from Submarine : ISPR

Next step launch ICBM test Insha Allah


SLBM: Perhaps
ICBM: No

What possible use do we have for an operational ICBM? None whatsoever. Its a complete waste of money. Instead invest in a launch vehicle.
 
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The Israeli who you guys rely so much for your missile defense systems must also be cheap and pathetic relying on tube fired SLCM. You can spin it whichever way you want but the fact remains that till today, the US which is the premier power in the world has stayed clear of supersonic cruise missiles. It's not because they are expensive or hard to intercept.

So far you have produced no "verifiable facts" except boring opinions packaged as evidence. And I am not Pakistani but I understand why your comprehension skills are off today.



The same barak that failed miserable to intercept rudimentary Hizbollah homemade rockets? Give it a rest dude. You don't have to embarrass yourself like this.

I never said, you are a Pakistani, I said you are of Pakistani origin. And I completely sympathize with you, if you deny that too.

Israel has to rely on its 1500 Km range SLCM for second strike capability because it is an undeclared nuclear weapons state, which does not have submarine building capabilities and none of its adversaries have nuclear weapons.

Their certain niche area, which Israel excels at, missile tracking and interception being one of them.

And their certain defense areas, which Israel almost totally ignores. Submarine and aircraft manufacturing being some of them.

Barak missile complex which is deployed on naval ships being used to intercept Hezbollah's homemade rockets, that's a new one !! ..lol
 
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1) Firstly India has Land attack SLCM it called 3M54 Klub missile. It does not have an indigenous SLCM , but that is being rectified with submarine launched version of Bhramos.
India does not rely on subsonic cruise missiles for nuclear delivery , Just a day before India again tested its 3500 Km range SLBM.


2) If Pakistani objective is an appearance of credible second strike capability, which wont even cover 1% of Indian landmass with ability to carry just a few Killotone nuclear weapon, then offcourse it has been met by 450 Km range torpedo tube launched cruise missile.

How ever if Pakistani objective is comprehensive and assured second strike capability. With ability to target entire Indian land mass, with the highest yield nuclear weapon it has, even if its entire land based arsenal is wiped out. Then Pakistan has long way to go.

But as you say this is the best you can do, at the moment.


1. MAD. *yawn* :coffee:

2. We don't have to destroy India necessarily, we just have to make it a nasty place to live.
 
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I never said, you are a Pakistani, I said you are of Pakistani origin. And I completely sympathize with you, if you deny that too.

Israel has to rely on its 1500 Km range SLCM for second strike capability because it is an undeclared nuclear weapons state, which does not have submarine building capabilities and none of its adversaries have nuclear weapons.

Their certain niche area, which Israel excels at, missile tracking and interception being one of them.

And their certain defense areas, which Israel almost totally ignores. Submarine and aircraft manufacturing being some of them.

Barak missile complex which is deployed on naval ships being used to intercept Hezbollah's homemade rockets, that's a new one !! ..lol

You got owned badly. You have no answers. SLCM is an advanced and solid capability that India has miserably failed to obtain. All you can do now is make yourself look silly by making up excuses. Won't change the reality.

Pakistan is way ahead and will now also focus on obtaining SLBM capability. There is nothing much you can do about it. We will mate these capabilities with our subs and that will speak volume.
 
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You got owned badly. You have no answers. SLCM is an advanced and solid capability that India has miserably failed to obtain. All you can do now is make yourself look silly by making up excuses. Won't change the reality.

Pakistan is way ahead and will now also focus on obtaining SLBM capability. There is nothing much you can do about it.

Lol ..ok..if you say so, with these repeated assurances, perhaps you can convince yourself , if no one else.

P.S. : India just tested (again) a submarine launched missile, which can carry a 1.5 tonne nuclear warhead 3500 Kms.

Let us know, when you achieve that capability.
 
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I never said, you are a Pakistani, I said you are of Pakistani origin. And I completely sympathize with you, if you deny that too.

Israel has to rely on its 1500 Km range SLCM for second strike capability because it is an undeclared nuclear weapons state, which does not have submarine building capabilities and none of its adversaries have nuclear weapons.

Their certain niche area, which Israel excels at, missile tracking and interception being one of them.

And their certain defense areas, which Israel almost totally ignores. Submarine and aircraft manufacturing being some of them.

Barak missile complex which is deployed on naval ships being used to intercept Hezbollah's homemade rockets, that's a new one !! ..lol

Your ignorance is so pathetic, it's not even funny.

Israel doesn't need anyone's permission to create VLS to fire its SLCM, it uses tubefired SLCM for practical reasons. There's nothing stopping it from creating VLS. Btw if subsonic cruise missiles are so easy to make, why is your country having such a difficult time fielding one? Either your claim is bogus or your weapon makers are pathetic.

Also Hizbollah successfully fired into and damaged an Israeli naval ship off the Lebanese coast. You might want to check your information before embarrassing yourself next time.

Finally I am neither Pakistani national or origin, I know the truth is a bitter pill to swallow but as I said, that's something you might want to confront privately rather than do it in full public view
 
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Just considering possibilities: did they explicitly say it was a PN submarine?
That is the right question.
Quite simply, the missile looks shortened and not thinner. One could hypothesize that the diameter remains the same.

So adding a capsule onto it, I am not convinced that the Agosta 90b is the platform that launched the system.

The very usage of the term "mobile submersible platform" seems to infer a wish to maintain ambiguity on which system launched the weapon.

I am still maintaining that this is the first test of the system from sea. Because regardless of secracy, in a busy shippig route like the Arabian Sea; NOTAMS need to be issued.

That does not prevent any land based tests and simulations as the core software is pretty Modular(had the source code of the very initial guidance system sitting in my desktop some 8 years ago, which was by then 7 years old).
So the main modifications would be to flightsystems to adapt for the shorter body and launch mechanics.

The rest is tried and trusted.

Lol ..ok..if you say so, with these repeated assurances, perhaps you can convince yourself , if no one else.

P.S. : India just tested (again) a submarine launched missile, which can carry a 1.5 tonne nuclear warhead 3500 Kms.

Let us know, when you achieve that capability.
Nobody cares what india does, all that matters is the ability to deliver a warhead to fry you and your family into a crisp.

And rest assured, despite your delusional doubts which only comfort you.. that we are very capable of doing so using just land based system inspite of any bmd you may put up.

As long as you sit in any Indian city with a population greater than 50000; you are a dead man.
 
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Lol ..ok..if you say so, with these repeated assurances, perhaps you can convince yourself , if no one else.

P.S. : India just tested (again) a submarine launched missile, which can carry a 1.5 tonne nuclear warhead 3500 Kms.

Let us know, when you achieve that capability.

LOL you are surely the pinnacle of stupidity. You know nothing about the SLCM capability.

Just by repeating that India tested XYZ doesn't prove anything. Your own ally Israel uses SLCM. The Americans use these advanced missiles. You are just ranting. You know it.

The fun part is that SLCM deterrent is just one part of our triad. We have so many options to attack India. Today we have added an extra layer to our capabilities. We are not surprised that you are acting so defensively.

Just wait till we get our subs from China and mate these missiles. You are going to weep. You haven't even seen half of it yet.
 
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The interception, I mentioned earlier was for P-20 or styx missile which is a high subsonic sea skimming cruise missile, It is next developmental model of P-15 missiles, which were used to take out Karachi harbor in 1971.
You need a Radar to intercept a missile and that Radar feeds data to a computer that computer calculates the path of the incoming object. and then the interceptor will receive signal from the computer and rectify the Path accordingly and will make a successful interception. this is how your defense system works. This report was generated by Australia after they assessed Barak missile system.

How US Missile defense system works currently being deployed in Europe. The have a satellite that detects infrared signature of an ICBM and then that data is transmitted to ground defense system and a SAM is fired according to that DATA got it. Problems ICBM is easy to intercept if it is not Hyper glide. like your current tested ICBM can be intercepted by a SAM system as it is not Hyper glider. Sea Skimming missile is easy to intercept but Submarine launched Sea skimming cruise missile is not intercept able as first of all the Launch is not detectable so this reduces responce time for the interceptor then if that missile is a RADAR stealth well if your radar cannot detect it cannot be intercepted so This missile is a silent death about which no one will know of coming.
 
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Alhamdulillah.
Nar-e-Takbir - Allahu Akbar.

I am thankful to Allah Subhanahu Wa-Ta'Allah that I have witnessed Pakistan achieve this glorious milestone in my lifetime.

I am truly proud today. Pakistan Zindabad.
Congratulations to all in Pakistan.
 
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NO nation on earth has achieved as much as Pakistan has in the defence field that has had so many restrictions and sanctions placed
really ?? can you tell us what sanction Pakistan has ?? which UNSCR ?? or even chapter seven ?? north Korea has sanction and many more which had made more progress
 
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