PAKISTAN, SOUTH KOREA SIGN MAJOR DEFENCE COOPERATION AGREEMENT

[Maula Jatt]

Current TTP leadership is too Pashtun nationalist to let foreign fighters in. But good points.



Pakistanis are finally taking the black pill

its a very dark/ cowardly thing to do for an individual or a society at large- potentially a sign of mental illness or depression

"It is about realizing nothing matters and there is nothing you can do that will change anything, it depraves you of all positive thought and makes you want to get some sort of meaning out of this limited time we have.

Basically extreme nihilism. That's why its not a called a red pill, since beyond that."

take the red pill not the black pill

 

[Goritoes]

What???

Source?

 

[Gripen9]

Exactly.
Once you have given up on Kashmir and made subservient to India ala Bangladesh, why would you even need nuclear weapons or an army of 600k active soldiers.
Uncle Sam will then come after your Nukes.

Re read in light of SleepyJoe’s recent utterances

 

[Defencelover1997]

funniest example is Europe. MBDA UK market CAMM to Indian Navy, MBDA Italy market CAMM to Pakistan navy



Kashmir will always be a lost cause, the BEST plan was musharrafs, we need something similar and to move on, otherwise this proxy game harms us more and will leave us lagging while India accelerates in development and economic growth. We need to just settle now, not Pakistan nor India will win in an offensive land grab, so its literally a lost cause

I respectfully disagree.if indian neuter you in kashmir than they'll move in sindh or Balochistan. will start insurgency in sindh more harshly.they'll use Afghan soil without any fear of pak response.cos Pakistan only has a leverage in kashmir over india. But india has leverage over Pakistan in Balochistan, sindh,fata through iran and Afghanistan.Kashmir policy is what keeping Pakistan alive as a country.

 

[ARMalik]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1580257607415365633

https://twitter.com/x/status/1580257626176512000

What a waste of people's money. These weapons will likely be used against citizens of Pakistan.

 

[hembo]

I respectfully disagree.if indian neuter you in kashmir than they'll move in sindh or Balochistan. will start insurgency in sindh more harshly.they'll use Afghan soil without any fear of pak response.cos Pakistan only has a leverage in kashmir over india. But india has leverage over Pakistan in Balochistan, sindh,fata through iran and Afghanistan.Kashmir policy is what keeping Pakistan alive as a country.

Please excuse the tongue in cheek reply from this pajeet brahmaputra-deshi (as opposed to gangudeshi)...

IMHO, India's interference in other parts of Pakistan, if any , was/ is (?) as retaliation for what was happening in J&K since 1989. If the Kashmir issue is resolved and India sees no interference in J&K or other separatist agendas, she will stop all interference in Pakistan affairs.

Disclaimer: This is purely my independent assessment. Not liable for any Sanghi or Khongresi misdemeanor) .

 

[Defencelover1997]

Please excuse the tongue in cheek reply from this pajeet brahmaputra-deshi (as opposed to gangudeshi)...

IMHO, India's interference in other parts of Pakistan, if any , was/ is (?) as retaliation for what was happening in J&K since 1989. If the Kashmir issue is resolved and India sees no interference in J&K or other separatist agendas, she will stop all interference in Pakistan affairs.

Disclaimer: This is purely my independent assessment. Not liable for any Sanghi or Khongresi misdemeanor) .

lol.india had broken Pakistan into half in 1971.your govt gave complete list of all khalistani fighters.still Vajpayee threatened you with his nuclear warhead.Mosharraf tried the same.but india funded terrorists in Pakistan through her embassy /consulates.

 

[Areesh]

Wow. Crazy yahoodis

 

[Goritoes]

Wow. Crazy yahoodis

they are also waiting for their Messiah.

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

US understands pakistan is balancing between US and China.. US wants pakistan to open up to India., retain trade with china but not support one-china policy. .

US itself follows one China policy. Why would US ask Pakistan to abandon it.

@SQ8 @MastanKhan

New theory.

1. Pakistan gives up on Kashmir.
2. Pakistan stops collaborating with China.
3. The U.S. encourages South Korea, Turkey, etc, to sell Pakistan arms.
4. Pakistan re-orients focus towards Afghanistan and Iran.

It's starting to look like that's where Washington wants to steer things.

No. US has realized that Pakistan is a better and reliable partner of the US than India.

US is dumping India as a partner.

Unlike Ukranians who are fighting and winning against Russia, Indians failed to fight the Chinese in Galwan.

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

I was referring more to "why would Pakistan need/get arms if Kashmir's no longer an issue."

Well, 'just because.' Ultimately, arms sales are a way to drive commercial and personal interests. It's an opaque area with little-to-no accountability in our parts of the world. So, if you wanted to shuttle F-16Vs at $200+ m per unit without any real munitions, that's when you do it. When Kashmir is no longer an issue, we'll end up with even fewer people asking the tough questions about arms sales.

I also don't think Pakistan would economically develop if it dropped Kashmir. The nature of corruption is that if you give it an inch, it'll take a mile and, eventually, the entire road. The public's tax money has to go somewhere, and after some leaves to abroad, the next area that typically sees action is defense. It's not just the Egyptians, but also Algerians, Saudis, Iraq, and so on.

As I said earlier, our political and military leaders aren't (generally) sincere or independent actors. Imran Khan literally came out and said his hands were tied, and I don't think the story's different for anyone else. We've established the politicians can't do much. I don't think the sincere generals are any better off. They're also caught in a trap wherein any rejection of the status-quo can be framed as sedition.

UK & Canada have recently conducted referendums supporting Khalistan while Germany has called for Plebicite & UN intervention in Indian Occupied Kashmir.

Us needs Pakistan on her side to sustain Khalistan and Kashmir freedom movements to balkanize India.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

US itself follows one China policy. Why would US ask Pakistan to abandon it.



No. US has realized that Pakistan is a better and reliable partner of the US than India.

US is dumping India as a partner.

Unlike Ukranians who are fighting and winning against Russia, Indians failed to fight the Chinese in Galwan.

Pelosi visit ro Taiwan doesn't reflect regardless what they say.

 

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Can anyone at least tell what this MAJOR defence cooperation agreement actually entails?

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Can anyone at least tell what this MAJOR defence cooperation agreement actually entails?

The best-case scenario: What we're now seeing between Pakistan and Turkey, e.g., MILGEM, Jinnah-class frigate, Akinci, etc.

The worst-case scenario: What we're now seeing between Pakistan and South Africa, e.g., not much besides the LRMPA project (with Paramount Group).

If things with ROK end up in the middle, I'd expect some naval development (e.g., FACs), maybe some artillery projects (e.g., improving our 155 mm/52-calibre gun), and possibly some collaboration on avionics, radars/sensors, etc.

 

[TheSolution]

One : Hopes from CPEC - gave a lifeline to otherwise defunct and dysfunctional Pakistani Economy. We Must thank China for this. Ignore the whiners on here china has helped us always

My brother, don't forget who initiated the CPEC project and signed the contract, their nature and treachery is well-known in Pakistan, and China has certainly taken advantage of it, there's a reason China favours the Sharifs and why projects slowed down during IK's era.

The fault is only ours of course, and only we are to blame but don't for once think the relationship is built on true friendship or that everything is sunshine and roses.

The US and China are two sides of the same coin, after all it's human nature to exploit others where possible to reach your goal and has been observed throughout history.

Your country is corrupted and incompetent.

100% agreed, I don't think anyone will deny this, and that's precisely what allowed China to take advantage of it, especially given the global geopolitical situation with not many other options left.

China played her card's right and extracted maximum benefit, this is human nature. It was a golden opportunity just sitting there waiting to be taken advantage of. Only we are to blame.