Pakistan single engine aircraft doctrine rules

[Foxtrot Delta]

Dual engine fighters like f-18 and f-15 are very good but thise are for strike purposes to loft heavy payload.

For interceptors and agile air superiority mission single engine aircraft like F-16, F-35, F-21, JF-17 etc are very suitable especially with availablity of air to air refueling.

Pakistan is not a very wide country its big from north to south but not wide west to east. Single engine aiecraft are good for defence.

For strike missions dual engine aiecraft are perfect as they can go furthur into enemy territory and drop huge massive destructive payloads .

So far PAF doctrines are a success

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

if block 3 flies this year and production starts next year and with
current rate of production at PAC at 26 per year if we consider 6 year production line for JFT Blocks we would have 156 future blocks by 2026 with nearly 125 block 1s and 2 (correct me if i m wrong)
50 block 1s
50 block 2s
further 13 block 2s were procured in 2018
further 14 were ordered in 2019 due to delay in block 3
2 lost in crashes
so that will give us 281 jfts , 76 f16s nearly 350+ fighters
in late 2000s we were planning for a 300 fighter jet airforce in 19 SQs
but we would still need them
for Raad ALCM and other stand off weaponry JFT cant carry and by that time J31 should be available

some 20 years more sir

 

[ziaulislam]

if block 3 flies this year and production starts next year and with
current rate of production at PAC at 26 per year if we consider 6 year production line for JFT Blocks we would have 156 future blocks by 2026 with nearly 125 block 1s and 2 (correct me if i m wrong)
50 block 1s
50 block 2s
further 13 block 2s were procured in 2018
further 14 were ordered in 2019 due to delay in block 3
2 lost in crashes
so that will give us 281 jfts , 76 f16s nearly 350+ fighters
in late 2000s we were planning for a 300 fighter jet airforce in 19 SQs
but we would still need them
for Raad ALCM and other stand off weaponry JFT cant carry and by that time J31 should be available

Well if decide tl stick only with thunders than some investment will have to be made with glide bombs. We will need rocket propelled glide bombs like raptor 2/3

 

[jamal18]

Dual engine fighters like f-18 and f-15 are very good but thise are for strike purposes to loft heavy payload.

For interceptors and agile air superiority mission single engine aircraft like F-16, F-35, F-21, JF-17 etc are very suitable especially with availablity ofbairbto air refueling.

Pakistan is not a very wide country its big from north to south but not wide west to east. Single engine aiecraft are good for defence.

For strike missions dual engine aiecraft are perfect as they can go furthur into enemy territory and drop huge massive destructive payloads .

So far PAF doctrines are a success

Really glad somebody gave a succinct explanation.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

Well if decide tl stick only with thunders than some investment will have to be made with glide bombs. We will need rocket propelled glide bombs like raptor 2/3

we already have raptor 2 in the shape of H-2s
3 should be procured if possible but pakistan is trying to perfect glide bombs eg. REK /Takbir series first had a range of of 60 km and cep of 20m it was later improved to 100 km and 10 m respectively

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

if block 3 flies this year and production starts next year and with
current rate of production at PAC at 26 per year if we consider 6 year production line for JFT Blocks we would have 156 future blocks by 2026 with nearly 125 block 1s and 2 (correct me if i m wrong)
50 block 1s
50 block 2s
further 13 block 2s were procured in 2018
further 14 were ordered in 2019 due to delay in block 3
2 lost in crashes
so that will give us 281 jfts , 76 f16s nearly 350+ fighters
in late 2000s we were planning for a 300 fighter jet airforce in 19 SQs
but we would still need them
for Raad ALCM and other stand off weaponry JFT cant carry and by that time J31 should be available

You are assuming all jf 17 are produced for PAF there are many other orders from many other countries.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

You are assuming all jf 17 are produced for PAF there are many other orders from many other countries.

there is a second production line for export in china...burmas FC-1s were built there

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

there is a second production line for export in china...burmas FC-1s were built there

Thats true.

 

[Signalian]

One of the issues in foreseeable future is a new Raád carrier when (infact IF) Mirages retire.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

One of the issues in foreseeable future is a new Raád carrier when (infact IF) Mirages retire.

I think jf 17 can carry 2 raad missiles. Ine under each wing And they recently are talking about ground clearance for one more third raad under the belly of jf 17.

Therefore currently jf 17 can carry 2 nuclear raad missiles and soon i hope it will he able to carry 3 nuclear raad.

 

[Signalian]

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I think jf 17 can carry 2 raad missiles. Ine under each wing And they recently are talking about ground clearance for one more third raad under the belly of jf 17.

Therefore currently jf 17 can carry 2 nuclear raad missiles and soon i hope it will he able to carry 3 nuclear raad.

Not yet.

Unless a pic or video or PAF statement that JF-17 can carry Ra'ad ALCM

 

[BHarwana]

There is only one jet that Pakistan needs and it is J-10c we don't need any thing else for our mid gap.
This is the way forward for Pakistan before 5th gen.
JF-17 has proven it's self better than any jet in the world now.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

Not yet.

Unless a pic or video or PAF statement that JF-17 can carry Ra'ad ALCM

I think they are waiting for integration with RAAD 2on block 3 . quwa.org reported a couple of years back that Raad 2 was a success with 550 km range.

 

[MastanKhan]

IAF knock down all Arab forces with single engine. Now F35 also single engine. Pak and Isreal air doctrine is pretty much same. It's more defence and defence in offense based.

Hi,

IAF has more firepower than arab countries put together---.

They have 15s as well don't they? The single vs double engined jet debate has long raged on in PAF and amongst arm chair generals like me. There is a limited need for PAF, firstly over the sea and a few in the Centre of Pak lands for longer loitering time. I suspect if we do buy them it wont be more than 2-3 squadron. If we can get something with commonality of engines with a single engined fighter it may be economically more palatable. Finances remain the major bugbear.
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Hi,

@araz---why are you still her---you mentioned if there was war---you will terminate your position---so what are you waiting for---.

 

[HAIDER]

There is only one jet that Pakistan needs and it is J-10c we don't need any thing else for our mid gap.
This is the way forward for Pakistan before 5th gen.
JF-17 has proven it's self better than any jet in the world now.

Convince Russia to allow AL31 engine to Pakistan. Engine is name of the game. Right now best engine in the market. All SU30 are fitted with AL31 . Even PAK-FA.