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Pakistan should have known bin Laden was there: Afghanistan

August 2010: Pakistan shares with US some details about the compound in Abbottabad.US gathers intelligence that the compound is occupied by Osama’s children.
Jan 27: Raymond Davis, the CIA Station Chief in Pakistan gets an audio file and some pictures of Pak military installations at Tarbela from an informer in Lahore. On the wayback he is pursued by two ISI contractors. He realizes that he is being followed and shotsboth followers in the back. He is arrested by Pakistani police.
March 16: Raymond Davis is released and he shares the information he had gathered with the CIA.
March 17: General Kayani starts criticizing drone attacks in public statements
First Week of April: News started circling that General Petraeus is being transferred toCIA.
April 5: Obama Administration submits a report to the Congress that Pakistan government has no clear strategy to triumph over militants. This is followed by a concerted international media campaign which puts enormous pressure on Pakistani Military and ISI.
April 7: Bruce Riedel, former CIA officer and White House advisor writes a report arguing that Pakistan’s nuclear weapons are not only a deterrent to India but also to USA.
April 8: General Kayani meets with Centcom Chief Gen James Mattis.
April 18: On Pakistan’s Geo TV, Adm. Michael Mullen said Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence “has a longstanding relationship with the Haqqani Network. That doesn’t mean everybody in the ISI, but it’s there.”
April 20: Adm. Mike Mullen meets with Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee General Khalid Shameem Wynne and General Kayani.
April 22: News appears that Pakistan has taken back Shamsi Airbase back from CIA, US forces.
April 26: Washington critically attacks Pakistan Army’s counter-terrorism efforts.April 26: General Petraeus met with General Kayani.
April 26: Meeting of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee (JCSC) is held at Rawalpindi,one week ahead of schedule at the Joint Staff Headquarters
April 27: Wall Street Journal reports that Pakistan is trying to wean Afghanistan away from the United States and draw it into China’s orbit.
April 28: Obama signs General Petraeus’ transfer to CIA.
April 29: Obama signs the orders to attack the Abbottabad compounds.
April 30: General Kayani gave a veiled threat in his Youm-e-Shuhada address:“Pakistan is a peace-loving country and wants friendly relations with other countries and our every step should move towards prosperity of the people. But we will notcompromise our dignity and honour for it”.
May 1: Four US choppers flew from Afghanistan. Reaching Abbottabad they attacked a secure compound which housed some important Al Qaeda members. A gun battle soon ensued. Within minutes a Pakistani military helicopters flew from Tarbela, reaching the compound in Abbottabad few minutes later. In the meanwhile US forces had torched one of their own choppers. The four choppers (three US and one Pak) took off from the compound and flew to Afghanistan. Incidentally, this time none of them followed a low altitude flight. They were quite visible on Pakistani radars.

What we all should know

In August 2010 after Pakistani authorities shared intelligence with US about the compound in Abbottabad. US after its own intelligence gathering ascertains that the compound is occupied by Osama’s children. Compound surveillance continues through the next year in anticipation of capturing Osama bin Laden. In January 2011 the young CIA contractor who is give the charge of Pakistan Station Chief works “extra hard” to gather clandestine information related to ISI and Al Qaeda relationship.

The contractor,now infamous as Raymond Davis the “American Rambo” receives a call from one of his assets, early morning on January 27 about a high value target. But the asset refuses to lay out details on phone or to leave the Lahore city, where he had gone underground.Raymond Davis hires a rent a car and drives to Lahore, while his security detail followshim in a bullet proof Land Cruiser.

Raymond Davis is able to loose his Islamabad’s ISI“detail” by leaving in unmarked rent a car. The ISI agents falling for his trap follow the embassy’s Land Cruiser. Raymond Davis arrives at Lahore one hour earlier than his detail and meets with the asset. The asset gives him some pictures of an intelligence building at Tarbela and recording of a phone call. Listening the phone call Raymond Davis realizes the gold mine he had struck and immediately calls his security detail which had also reached Lahore, knowing if ISI reaches him first, he would not leave Lahore alive.

Next hour when the security car catches up with Raymond Davis, the ISI bosses realizes that Raymond Davis had give them a slip earlier in the morning and in the couple of hours he had in Lahore, he might have got some important information. Resultantly,they put two contractors on his tail. Raymond Davis seeing a tail fears the worse and shoots them both in the back, at a traffic stop, without logically realizing that there was no way ISI could have know what he was holding.

His security detail which was close behind rushed to his “rescue” however, by the police had chased and arrested him, while the security Land Cruiser running over pedestrians escapes towards US embassy compound in Islamabad. ISI officers quickly reach the scene and confiscating the memory sticks realize Raymond Davis has unearthed a deep secret which even their immediate bosses didn’t know about.

The sensitivity of information rattles the entire echelons of the ISI and even its own officers are sent under house arrest while the relevant cell steps forward. At that time even some of the top intelligence officers of the secretive ISI outside the relevant cell did not know that Osama bin Laden had died and his body was kept frozen at Tarbela. Young Raymond Davis had unearthed the biggest secret of the century, somehow. But now the Pandora’s Box had been opened. Pak top brass knew it had only a few days or weeks at best to capitalize Raymond Davis’ arrest before US get the intel.

In the next six weeks Pakistan plugs all leaks related to Osama’s death and makes sure that maximum gains are made for Raymond’s release. However,when Raymond Davis is released on March 16, his debriefing results in a tsunami of US policy, personal agendas and fueling of political rivalries. Everyone in the US chain of command now wanted to use the information to further personal goals from General

Petreaus to President Obama. On March 17, knowing that Pakistan had lost its trump card General Pervaiz Kayani releases a press statement in which he critically criticize drone attacks, first from him. From then on Pak Military raised its stance against drone attacks, fearing that US now might target its nuclear assets. While in USA politics was at its full swing. General Petreaus wanted to get the buckle for Osama bin Laden’s death on his belt for his future political ambitions, while President Obama wanted the credit to help is sliding popularity. While the tussle continued, the other issue still pending was how to confirm Osama’s death.

In the next one month, nearly every week a top US official visited Pakistan, everyone meeting with General Kayani trying to convince him to hand over Osama’s body. While the stance from Pakistan remained, “Osama, Who?” It was a first in the history that so many US top officials had visited and met with a military chief of a foreign country in such a short time. Seeing nothing getting through the top military brass of Pakistan, US started a political and media campaign on the sides to put extra pressure on Pak Military.

Politics within Obama Administration was also at its full swing. Petraeus was pulling all the strings to take the credit, while trying to lay out a plan to get Osama bin Laden’s body out of Pakistan. President Obama on the other hand in one smooth move decided to “promote” Petraeus to the head of the CIA. The news got out in the first week of April that Petraeus was being transferred to the CIA. While at the main front, Obama continued to pressurize General Kayani and General Pasha and one April 5, Obama Administration submitted a report to the Congress that Pakistan government had no clear strategy to triumph over militants. Alongside the report the media campaign against Pak Military and the ISI continued.

The second week of April began with a bang for top Pak Military brass. On April 7, Bruce Riedel, former CIA officer and White House advisor wrote a report arguing that Pakistan’s nuclear weapons are not only a deterrent to India but also to USA. The obvious had now become clear that Obama Administration has indirectly sent a clear threat to Pakistan’s nuclear assets. The timing of the report was perfect with Centcom Chief Gen James Mattis meeting with General Kayani next day. In the meeting General Mattis asked about Pakistan’s cooperation in capturing Osama bin Laden.

This was ironically one of typical Hollywood thriller scene. Pakistan knew that US knew that Pakistan knows that US knows that Osama is dead. But Pakistan continued the naive game of “Osama Who?” while US continued to play the game that “Osama must be captured”. General Mattis leaves with veiled threats and stresses that Pakistan must do more to against the Al Qaeda and Taliban, or indirectly saying that Osama bin Laden must be handed over.

For the ten days US waits and sees how Pakistan responds to the threats, but Pakistan acts by burying its head in the sand – see no evil, hear no evil. Obama Administration ups the ante and on April 18 on Pakistan’s Geo TV, Adm. Michael Mullen said Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence “has a longstanding relationship with the Haqqani Network.That doesn’t mean everybody in the ISI, but it’s there.” Again, international media had its field day against Pakistan’s ISI and its links with Taliban and the ISI.

After putting pressure on General Kayani, Adm. Mike Mullen meets with Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee General Khalid Shameem Wynne and General Kayani on April 20.Admiral Mullen again demands indirectly that Pakistan needs to help USA in locating Osama bin Laden. Pakistan’s response was again, “Osama, Who?” Admiral Mullen however, left with another threat that if they came to know about Osama bin Laden’s location they would go ahead and take unilateral action. This is the same message which President Obama repeated in his announcement of Osama bin Laden’s death, when he said, “We will take actions in Pakistan, if we knew where he was.”

In response to continued threats from USA Pakistan starts taking back its air bases from US in an attempt to avoid launching of any operation from its own soil. As a result on April 22 the news appears that Pakistan had taken back Shamsi Airbase back from CIA,US forces. While Obama Administration was piling pressure on Pakistan, General Petraeus visited Pakistan on April 26 and met with General Kayani openly asking him to hand over Osama bin Laden, otherwise get ready to face the consequences. Same day Washington also critically attacked Pakistan Army’s counter-terrorism efforts. General Petraeus left with a clear message that unless Pakistan hands over Osama, US forces would be forces to take action over Pakistani soil. Pakistani Military knowing that US knew that Osama bin Laden was dead couldn’t understand Obama Administration’s continued stance on capturing Osama bin Laden. General Petraeus left with the ultimatum that either Pakistan handed over Osama or US would get him.

Same day meeting of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee (JCSC) is held at Rawalpindi,one week ahead of schedule at the Joint Staff Headquarters. The top brass discusses the Osama issue and decision is reached to work out the Obama’s strategy leading to continuous threats for capturing Osama bin Laden alive, even after knowing that he was dead. While in Pakistan intelligence community starts using all of its sources to reach to the bottom of US’ demand of capturing Osama bin Laden. On April 28 President Obama signs General Petraeus’ transfer to CIA and next day signs the orders to attack the Abbottabad compounds. Thus Osama bin Laden’s credit is assured to President Obama.

On 29 April after President Obama signed the orders to “bring back” Osama bin Laden,Pakistani security agencies get a report that another order had been signed which had authorized US forces to neutralize Pakistan’s nuclear assets, if needed. The report was nothing short of seeing a death angel for the top Pak Military brass.

Seeing the imminent threat, General Kayani tried his last shot when on 30 April 2011 he clearly stated in his Youm-e-Shuhada address: “Pakistan is a peace-loving country and wants friendly relations with other countries and our every step should move towards prosperity of the people. But we will not compromise our dignity and honour for it”.However, it didn’t stop what was about to come 24 hours later.

As night fell on Sunday, 1 May four choppers from a US Afghan base at a low altitude towards its destination in Abbottabad, to the same compound where Osama’s children were in the hiding. Without any detection courtesy of their latest stealth technology and Pakistan’s outdated technology the choppers continued over the Pakistani territory.Ironically, ten years ago a Pak Air force air commodore had raised concern about the outdated radar technology citing that US or worse India could fly helicopters into the country and take out nuclear installations and in reply he was shown the boot while no upgrades to the systems were made.

Anyway, the four choppers made it to the compound in Abbottabad. It is then that PakArmy was notified that they have a choice. Either face an entire barrage of US choppers attacking Pak nuclear assets or hand over Osama’s body. In the meanwhile the small

gun battle at the Abbottabad compound continued and to give the drama some authenticity the US forces torched one of their own choppers. Pressed for time a Pakistani helicopter flew from Tarbela carrying dead body of Osama bin Laden which was stored in a cold storage there. While at Abbottabad Pak Army soldiers encircle the entire area around the compound within five minutes of the start of fire fight. The firefight continued for 35 more minutes, waiting for the Pakistani helicopter. Once the Pakistani helicopter reached the compound the three US choppers and the Pakistani helicopter flew towards the Afghan border, this time without the need to fly below the radar detection altitude.

Next day, the world woke up to the news that Osama bin Laden was dead and President Obama had delivered wheat President Bush and Dick Cheney couldn’t. But the Pak Military brass did not wake up, because they never slept the night before. Last night they had woken to the realization that US could fly under the radar and take out Pakistan’s nuclear assets. The problem here is that US has the complete inventory of Pakistan’s nuclear assets along with exact locations. It would be a matter of minutes in a country wide operation to dismantle Pakistan’s nuclear assets.



link : CLASSIFIED: Why we’ll never see dead Osama bin Laden | Veterans Today
 
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Stop ranting Watani, you think I'm going to let you get away with nonsense?
Oh God save me!

Fighting the Soviet Union had the backing of the Afghanistan populace, so clean your hypocritical mindset first.
Afghan population was very divided in this regard, Russia didn't come attacking Afghanistan until heroes in the name of Mujahideen (all bunch of sell-outs) started off the circus. History is by far not as simple as people like yourself think it is, nor do you want to know about it.

Secondly, Pakistan getting friendly with Russia needs to be taken with a different understanding because the situation is with a different context.
Really? How is that? Isn't Pak-US relationship a BIG reason for it?; Same reason the Afghan government had to chose USSR over US government?

Thridly, Russia is not yesterday's Soviet Union who invaded Afghanistan. Soviet Union was looked upon as an aggressor.
They still are, historically seen they still are. And that's because people believe western media first and foremost, and according to the western media they are aggressors. Period.

So stop barking and shut your trap.
Please continue on barking, I will continue SPEAKING.

We don't need "moral or "ethical" advice from an LDC (Least developed country) which is the world's largest producer of illicit opium or drugs.
'Moral' and 'ethical' advice can only be given to people who understand the meanings of those, so no worries I wouldn't even think of wasting my energy.
 
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Oh God save me!


Afghan population was very divided in this regard, Russia didn't come attacking Afghanistan until heroes in the name of Mujahideen (all bunch of sell-outs) started off the circus. History is by far not as simple as people like yourself think it is, nor do you want to know about it.


Really? How is that? Isn't Pak-US relationship a BIG reason for it?; Same reason the Afghan government had to chose USSR over US government?


They still are, historically seen they still are. And that's because people believe western media first and foremost, and according to the western media they are aggressors. Period.


Please continue on barking, I will continue SPEAKING.


'Moral' and 'ethical' advice can only be given to people who understand the meanings of those, so no worries I wouldn't even think of wasting my energy.

Can you please tell me how Afghan society was divided on this? The only people who supported the Soviet occupation were communists. Do you support Communists? Every practising Muslim from Afghanistan was AGANIST the Soviet Union.

Why did the local population of Afghanistan fight against the communists of USSR for 10 years?

Watani are you on the side of babrak kamal, Najibullah, and Hafizullah? Hafizullah who by the way was butchered by the Soviet Union.
Every practising Muslim from Afghanistan WAS AGANIST THE SOVIET OCCUPATION. Ask any Afghan.
Can show me any practising Muslim leader from Afghanistan who supported, or at least partly backed Babrak, Hafizullah, and Najibullah?

Every Afghan I had spoken to, up this day, have been aganist babrak, najibullah, and hafizullah.

So wait a minute, you said the afghan government had to choose USSR, because of PAK-USA relationship and USA?

What absudity! most Afghans were aganist the regimes of babrak, najibullah and hafizullah!
Are you supporting the afghan communist governments to go aganist the will of the people and side with the USSR?

Wouldn't it had been better for Afghanistan from a politcal science perspective to keep a Non-Aligned position in global politics in order not to be in USSR's or USA's bad books?

You also say Pakistan is only getting friendly with Russia due today's PAK-USA relationship. That may be one of the many facets, but there are other facets as well.

(1) Russia and Pakistan are in the same neighbourhood along with China
(2) China has good relations with Russia, it would be illogical to now be at odds with Russia
(3) Russia and Pakistan has much to benefit from each other,Russia can have access to Arabian seas, and Pakistan can get into SCO and trade from central asia. seems like a fair trade off.


Can you bring proof of how afghan society was divided rather than barking. You didn't bring any sound logic and/ or evidence to back up your claim.

and oh believe me, bilalhaider pointed out your blatant anti-pakistani position in defence.pk.You are quite well known for your myopic views and nonsensical babbling.

How is Russia still an aggressor to Afghanistan? Are they in Afghanistan still? How can you possibly prove that Russia is still a threat to Afghanistan?
 
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hmm in my personal opinion, no matter how corrupt, bad, incompetent etc the govt of any country is, no country wants foreign interference with their govt. foreign interferences didnt start in Afg with Russian war nor did it end after Russian war which why their pov at times makes sense. those mujaheds of whom many Muslims believe were saviours of Afg 're mistaken. those same mujaheds 're now part of NA, Pakistan govt's enemy. if they can let nato rule over Afg and sell their pride for sake of money then what makes anyone think they actually fought against USSR for sake of the same pride ?? I might be very wrong but all I 've seen the mujaheds do is fight for power 'n power seems to be the reason they asked for foreign support, 'n still do !! critisizing a govt is justified 'n could be right but justifying interference cant in real sense be justified nor is it right. if anyone can justify interference then he should also be sensible enuf to acknowledge the outcome of their interference, denial 'n ignorance is one's worse enemy. just my 2 cents ....
 
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How are the nobel guests Mr. Karzai.... Care to handover them??
 
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