Pakistan should Give Palestine and KSA Its Nuclear umbrella

[Tom M]

Chabahar port is not intended to match the economic output of Gwadar port. However, this might change in the future.

Chabahar is important for India, Afghanistan and Russia. Shipments coming from the West can also tap it.

That is secondary as you are well aware. Well I hope it serves more economic value as well.

 

[PakGuns]

That language?
holy shit.....

I don't mind these people... They're here to reveal their fantasies projected by our molana.. Maybe next post will be about conquering US... PDF have such people since 8 years.... 

 

[EpiiC]

CPEC has a massive strategic significance for China. As it helps to bypass the vulnerable straights of Mallacca and South China Sea. It acts as a key alternative energy and supply route for China.




WRONG! Pakistan has had H-bombs capability since at least early 2011:

Dude Pak has low amount of Weapon Grade Plutonium and I am still not convinced we have H-Bombs, yes we may have the capability but do we have them?

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Dude Pak has low amount of Weapon Grade Plutonium and I am still not convinced we have H-Bombs, yes we may have the capability but do we have them?

Doesn't matter what you or I think. Many like you said that Pakistan COULD NEVER EVER become a nuclear weapons state with or without Chinese assistance. But the reality has already been independently confirmed for nearly 6 years:

http://isis-online.org/isis-reports...g-nuclear-weapons-time-for-pakistan-to-rever/

 

[EpiiC]

Doesn't matter what you or I think. Many like you said that Pakistan COULD NEVER EVER become a nuclear weapons state with or without Chinese assistance. But the reality has already been independently confirmed for nearly 6 years:

You keep posting the same links... I know we have the capability but there is no news of it in our arsenal.

 

[RoadRunner401]

Chutiye people like @PakGuns contributing nothing to this thread.BC apna kaam kiu nahi kr raha ,randiye ki olad.BC tere jese Chutiye ko sahi sabaq siqaye hai mene.Lun k bachay problem hai thread se to apne ami se ja kr ro.Ider kia baqwas kr raha hai.
@RoadRunner401 I'm a proud Chitral from North of PAkistan. Pisa royan sar zada Jam.
Now eat that up,I don't care if i get a negative rating for this.
Got a thousand other ways and places to discuss this other than this place.
Here you got an Idea to force yourself to the world,Just can't happen with the "Rat Mentality" of Pakistanis.
Have a blast reading this.
Thanks to all the sane contributors to this thread which contributed logically.

Yes threatening the world with Nukes is a brilliant idea, man you are a genius, hey Pee brain it's Northern Pakistan not North of Pakistan, you can't even spell and you are trying to dictate Pakistan's foreign policy

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

You keep posting the same links... I know we have the capability but there is no news of it in our arsenal.

There was also no news that Pakistan had nuclear weapons pre-May 1998

Somethings are left better unsaid

 

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hey Pee brain it's Northern Pakistan not North of Pakistan,

Hey shit brain,Its North of Pakistan not northern Pakistan.
See a Map point it out and shove it up your shiny side.

North west to be Precise.
Your welcome to learn something more anytime,but each time you'll have to be called "Shit brain"
Kill youself man

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

KSA is under the protection of US. No one will dare attack KSA until it has the USN fleet stationed there and I dont see them vacating in this century

 

[Signalian]

@BondedByBlood

There were a lot of mistakes since early 2003 for a good next 8-10 years which cost us officers, soldiers, civilians, ,weapons infrastructure and money. Slowly the Armed Forces adapted and changed the fighting doctrines to deal with the menace of terrorism of Pakistan.

A crude example would be usage of Gunships in this theatre of war. It was realised very late in war by PA and when it was realised then the AH-1 were very found to be too few and needed to be upgraded. Instead of losing 100's of soldiers, sending in a few Cobras was a better option. A solution could have been to lease AH-64A's from KSA or Egypt. Egyptian AH-64's were more advanced than KSA's AH-64's and got upgraded earlier to D standard with Longbow MW radar. The Fire and Forget AGM-114 Hellfire missile maybe costly but better in few aspects than TOW. The Longbow Radar is very capable for situational awareness. Pakistan was itself interested in purchasing AH-64 a long time back. Now PAA uses 50 AH-1 Cobras as well as utilises other helis in light armed roles. India has LCH and Rudra which will be inducted in hundreds of numbers apart from AH-64 ordered. In order to boost up gunships numbers PAA is also acquiring more Gunships.
Same aspect for use of Mirage as strike aircraft and upgrade of F-16 to MLU. The requirement for precision strikes was massive, Mirage was ageing and is still ageing. F-16 were few and burdened with many roles. Induction of JF-17 was a great help but it also came up late for strikes.

Going by your logic a suitable solution could be to broker a deal with KSA. Provide a nuclear cover in case of a war with any country including Iran. In the meantime KSA leases Pakistan 10-12 AH-64D and 4-8 F-15E for the on-going fight on Afghanistan border. Iran will be pissed and India will find another reason to get friendlier with Iran.

 

[LeGenD]

There was also no news that Pakistan had nuclear weapons pre-May 1998

Somethings are left better unsaid

A project as ambitious as nuclear can never be concealed in its scope and progress from the prying eyes. One way or the other, information comes out. Hate to break it to you but Pakistani nuclear program was open-secret throughout the Cold War. At the least, intelligence agencies of several countries were closely monitoring the situation on the ground through whatever means necessary.

The only difference is that we were young back then and lacked in awareness.

Our strategic narrative is to make the war costly for the enemy with a large number of low-yield nuclear warheads. Pakistan does have an active Plutonium enrichment program (e.g. Khushab) for developing powerful nuclear weapons, but a thermonuclear bomb was not on the cards so far.

lol the whole thing will be based on a false media pretense of Pakistan moving nukes towards Israel Just to make Hamas believe,With the Americans and Israel in the game.
We'll give KSA Live nukes and in-return we extract the GCC in our favor.

And the you think that nobody will oppose it?

Some people do not realize that a worldwide de-nuclearization lobbying is in effect; a powerful entity that has legs in almost every country.

Pakistani nuclear arsenal is for its own protection only. Whatever assurances we have given to Saudi Arabia, are mostly diplomatic overtures. Yes, Pakistan feels inclined to protect Mecca and Medina from harm, but that is it. However, some matters are beyond our control or reach. And Allah Almighty is the ultimate caretaker of his creations.

 

[Kaniska]

I had work in gulf for ten years in different countries you can not teach me how efficient indian are they just dumb in performance but the arabs prefer them because they listen arabic abuses and still smile shameless but Pakistani work they don't like to listenany bad word and second thing indian works on less wedges than Pakistani. Most of the indian worker dont know english and skill your engineers are not even have enough knowledge than Pakistani forman has skill

Mr Expert, why do you think and educated and smart Indian will go to work in Gulf countries than working in either India or in Western nations? Usually, people who do not get any job in India or does not have much education, they do prefer to go GCC...For your case, being Muslim country, GCC may be a preferred one for educated people but it is not same for Indian.

 

[EpiiC]

A project as ambitious as nuclear can never be concealed in its scope and progress from the prying eyes. One way or the other, information comes out. Hate to break it to you but Pakistani nuclear program was open-secret throughout the Cold War. At the least, intelligence agencies of several countries were closely monitoring the situation on the ground through whatever means necessary.

The only difference is that we were young back then and lacked in awareness.

Our strategic narrative is to make the war costly for the enemy with a large number of low-yield nuclear warheads. Pakistan does have an active Plutonium enrichment program (e.g. Khushab) for developing powerful nuclear weapons, but a thermonuclear bomb was not on the cards so far.


And the you think that nobody will oppose it?

Some people do not realize that a worldwide de-nuclearization lobbying is in effect; a powerful entity that has legs in almost every country.

Pakistani nuclear arsenal is for its own protection only. Whatever assurances we have given to Saudi Arabia, are mostly diplomatic overtures. Yes, Pakistan feels inclined to protect Mecca and Medina from harm, but that is it. However, some matters are beyond our control or reach. And Allah Almighty is the ultimate caretaker of his creations.

Do you know that active Plutonium enrichment reactor only yields a low amount of WGP.... Pak needs more and better reactors with higher yield of wgp.... moreover not having a thermonuclear bomb makes Paks nuclear program least advanced which is what I am worried about.... we need to work on the H-BOMB..... a new h-bomb can be fueled by 5kg of enriched Uranium to make a total bomb yield of 100kt....

 

[RoadRunner401]

Hey shit brain,Its North of Pakistan not northern Pakistan.
See a Map point it out and shove it up your shiny side.

North west to be Precise.
Your welcome to learn something more anytime,but each time you'll have to be called "Shit brain"
Kill youself man

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt. Abraham Lincoln

I can't stop laughing at how stupid you are, Oh man this is too funny, Pee Brain, it's Part of Pakistani Territory that's why its called Northern Pakistan

 

[Foggy_Bottom]

Delusions of self grandeur is still going strong.