Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey held their first-ever trilateral meeting in Riyadh

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Hi,

I will tell you the answer---. Pakistanis fckd up real bad when the yemen crisis started and they refused to assist GCC.

Today---apskiatn would have a local super power rather than a beggar---these starving pakistanis who are going to be committing suicide enmasse in near and long future---these pakistanis who cannot pay these electrics / gas bills---these pakistanis who cannot feed their children---feed their families---can't pay their bills---.

These pakistanis will die---their children will die---their mothers fathers will die in starvation and hopelessness---a worthless death---dying like flea bitten dogs----.

Allah gave them the chance to be someone---a power amongst the muslim nations---but this gutless and coward nation---rather than taking charge for a greater destiny chose doom and gloom as it destiny---.

Denegrating the arabs---calling them incompetent and weak---. Allah gave pakistanis the will to fight---but the arrogance and cockiness got the better of them---.

Today Allah has slammed them to the ground so hard---Allah has pummelled them so hard---Allah has taken away their freedom---Allah has thrown in a place that yet they do not know what terrible things are coming their way----.

What is gone is gone. As for today, thanks to the rise of China and it's increasing strategic relationship with the Muslim countries, Pakistan should be leveraging this big time. Only if the Pak Deep State had had little less greed for quick bucks and extravagant lifestyles...

 

[MastanKhan]

What is gone is gone. As for today, thanks to the rise of China and it's increasing strategic relationship with the Muslim countries, Pakistan should be leveraging this big time. Only if the Pak Deep State had had little less greed for quick bucks and extravagant lifestyles...

Hi,

My friend---Allah's mercies have ended for pakistan---. The Lord abhors utterly stupid people and nations and holds them in disdain---.
The good times for pakistanis have ended and that shows in the miseries that the pakistanis are facing---.

This is just barely the first step of Allah's disdain---. What is to come yet---the screams of pakistanis will be heard all around the world---.

 

[Aamir Hussain]

Pakistan has always let the Saudis down from their perspective. The two Gulf wars and the Yemen expedition are cases in point. We were asked to provide support in the second Gulf war, we did not even as a token presence.

That is one of the reasons, besides many others, that KSA is warming up to India from a military perspective. With the new look outward, more religious tolerance, India has a place in the strategic thinking of KSA viz a viz their own security.

Pakistani political elite and establishment, as always, calculated things from individual perspective (reelections, popularity, religious/sectarian backlash etc. btw the religious extremism was created by one of the usual suspects in the "ruling" cabal) instead of as a national long-term policy.

Our national policy on foreign relations is a joke at best, looks like it runs on a day-to-day basis and from one crisis to another. There is no thirty-year strategic plan in place that directs the country towards a goal that serves long term national strategic interests.

I don't see any hope of it getting better. Unfortunately, the neutrals that were supposed to keep us at an even keel are and have been part of the problem for this sinking ship..... may Allah help us in these trying times, Ameen

 

[fatman17]

We need to learn to stand on our own two feet. Searching for "Goldmines" has led us down this path that we are following now.

In such arrangements, all participants bring something to the table. Turks are bringing technology, ability to R&D, trained and well-armed forces. Saudis off course their global clout, appetite for large defense orders and ability to pay for them, and Petro dollars. What do we bring to the table?

I don't expect much from this meeting. It will be more bilateral.
Pakistan and Turkey
Turkey and KSA

 

[Fasbre2]

We need to learn to stand on our own two feet. Searching for "Goldmines" has led us down this path that we are following now.

In such arrangements, all participants bring something to the table. Turks are bringing technology, ability to R&D, trained and well-armed forces. Saudis off course their global clout, appetite for large defense orders and ability to pay for them, and Petro dollars. What do we bring to the table?

Nothing to contribute other than hoping for free handouts…

 

[nahtanbob]

That is one of the reasons, besides many others, that KSA is warming up to India from a military perspective. With the new look outward, more religious tolerance, India has a place in the strategic thinking of KSA viz a viz their own security.

Saudi Arabia warming up to India is to ensure customers for their main product - petroleum. India is de facto 3rd largest customer after China and EU. Now it is anyone's guess if the Saudis choose to expand security and defense partnership with India. My two cents is if Pakistan stays compliant to Saudi interests why rock the boat.

 

[Azadkashmir]

They did this and are doing this, Edge group of UAE is all South Africans.

But, Pakistan allows access to Turkey kinda, also has some experience that the arabs view highly i guess


got anything useful to add?

that wat they asked pakistan when pak joined saudi, turkey.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

I don't expect much from this meeting. It will be more bilateral.
Pakistan and Turkey
Turkey and KSA

However, Turkey wants to keep Pakistan in all of her major strategic equations! The Turkish policymakers have seen the effect of Pak's open-ended help during the liberation of Karaba', or post NATO-coup F-16 pilot shortage. And, they understand why IK was taken down and put in jail....

 

[Communism]

Hi,

I will tell you the answer---. Pakistanis fckd up real bad when the yemen crisis started and they refused to assist GCC.

Today---paskiatn would have become a local super power rather than a beggar---these starving pakistanis who are going to be committing suicide enmasse in near and long future---these pakistanis who cannot pay these electrics / gas bills---these pakistanis who cannot feed their children---feed their families---can't pay their bills---.

These pakistanis will die---their children will die---their mothers fathers will die in starvation and hopelessness---a worthless death---dying like flea bitten dogs----.

Allah gave them the chance to be someone---a power amongst the muslim nations---but this gutless and coward nation---rather than taking charge for a greater destiny chose doom and gloom as it destiny---.

Denegrating the arabs---calling them incompetent and weak---. Allah gave pakistanis the will to fight---but the arrogance and cockiness got the better of them---.

Today Allah has slammed them to the ground so hard---Allah has pummelled them so hard---Allah has taken away their freedom---Allah has thrown them in a place that yet they do not know what terrible things are coming their way----.

Nawaz Sharif also declined to get involved.


The difference is that Imran Khan's incompetence led to a falling out with Saudi Arabia due to a lack of tact.


Pakistan could have easily gotten lots of investments from the Saudis/GCC from 2018 to 2022 but missed out on it due to the total lack of diplomatic skill on the part of Imran Khan.

However, Turkey wants to keep Pakistan in all of her major strategic equations! The Turkish policymakers have seen the effect of Pak's open-ended help during the liberation of Karaba', or post NATO-coup F-16 pilot shortage. And, they understand why IK was taken down and put in jail....

Nawaz Sharif was taken out by a real CIA backed coup in the Panama Papers.


Imran Khan made relations with the U.S. poor largely due to a lack of diplomatic tact.


Imran Khan deliberately torpedoing the IMF deal was the last straw. That maneuver ruined relations with all the creditor nations and forced Pakistan to bow to U.S. demands to get another IMF bailout.

 

[Aamir Hussain]

Now that is putting things in highly imaginative perspective.

 

[truthseeker2010]

What do we bring to the table?

Zombies?

 

[Ghessan]

Nawaz Sharif also declined to get involved.


The difference is that Imran Khan's incompetence led to a falling out with Saudi Arabia due to a lack of tact.


Pakistan could have easily gotten lots of investments from the Saudis/GCC from 2018 to 2022 but missed out on it due to the total lack of diplomatic skill on the part of Imran Khan.



Nawaz Sharif was taken out by a real CIA backed coup in the Panama Papers.


Imran Khan made relations with the U.S. poor largely due to a lack of diplomatic tact.


Imran Khan deliberately torpedoing the IMF deal was the last straw. That maneuver ruined relations with all the creditor nations and forced Pakistan to bow to U.S. demands to get another IMF bailout.

if it was CIA backed coup then it must support the notion that NS was innocent.

well, he was not. then who ever was behind this so called conspiracy, does not matter.

IK is not the only one who torpedoed IMF deal, we have a history from 4 decades doing same.

when you comment better go little deep into it.

 

[Communism]

if it was CIA backed coup then it must support the notion that NS was innocent.

well, he was not. then who ever was behind this so called conspiracy, does not matter.

IK is not the only one who torpedoed IMF deal, we have a history from 4 decades doing same.

when you comment better go little deep into it.

Nawaz Sharif was specifically targeted because Nawaz Sharif is competent.


The U.S. knew that getting rid of Nawaz Sharif will make sure that his replacement will be incompetent, as nearly all Pakistani politicians are incompetent.

 

[LeGenD]

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Interesting development. I hope this leads to good outcomes for Pakistan.

What is gone is gone. As for today, thanks to the rise of China and it's increasing strategic relationship with the Muslim countries, Pakistan should be leveraging this big time. Only if the Pak Deep State had had little less greed for quick bucks and extravagant lifestyles...

Pakistan must strive for good relations with as many countries as possible. This is the way forward for my country in view of its limitations.

Big powers should be treated with caution because these entities will turn you into a pawn.

Muslim-majority countries should learn to stand on their own feet and create domestic industries. This is the only way to have balanced foreign policy decisions.

 

[Ghessan]

Nawaz Sharif was specifically targeted because Nawaz Sharif is competent.


The U.S. knew that getting rid of Nawaz Sharif will make sure that his replacement will be incompetent, as nearly all Pakistani politicians are incompetent.

at least you come up with something debatable. i wonder how do i reply to this...

the fact is, that we are of the habit that we talk like saint when we see the circumstances before hand.

no we are no saint, just a herd of fools, so don't comment with useless trash.