Pakistan receives LD-10 Anti-radiation missiles

[WaLeEdK2]

Anti-radiation missiles can be used to take out SAM sites. It's a great addition to the AF.

 

[Sine Nomine]

Could you provide me the link, because as far as I know HQ-9 has PESA radar.

Sure,

http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-NOTAM-061209-1.html
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-HQ-9-12-Battery-Radars.html

 

[Rashid Mahmood]

But as you know that sir,chinese shipyard officals said that KARACHI SHIP YARD requires little upgrade because it has been already in sub building business,does that means that setup time would be less as compared to new facility.

Obviously it will be less, but still it will take some time.

 

[Sine Nomine]

Obviously it will be less, but still it will take some time.

Sir,any idea how many systems we will bulit and how much will be coming in knockdown form.

 

[Rashid Mahmood]

Sir,any idea how many systems we will bulit and how much will be coming in knockdown form.

4 are expected to be built here.(assembled).

 

[Sine Nomine]

4 are expected to be built here.(assembled).

Sir,what's new in that we already assembled Agostas,so we will be building a hull and then placing supplied systems in it,what expertise we will gain from it.

 

[Arsalan]

hows it going arslan? long time no see.
i read an article where the jf-17 was featured in an airshow and the pakistani being interviewed said the range of the cm-102 can be extended 50% or even beyond.
so its highly likely this wil be used for long distance sead missions.

could be air based too.....it could engage awacs

Hi,
Just been a bit busy with family, there was a death in family so had to take some time off.

Yeah i read that one piece about Cm102 somewhere as well. Maybe it will be CM102 along side MAR-1 that will be PAF's main SEAD weapon but the thing is this is not stopping PAF and PAC from integrating other options as well. This clearly is being done with exports in mind. When it comes to options for export customers, it is always the more the merrier you know I hope that the trend will continue with more WVR, BVRAAM, anti-Radiation, stand-ff ground attack missiles and stuff.

Last three items are interesting. All for (S20) Type 041 subs including Anti Ship missile. The order was in 2014 then I think it is safe to assume that the deal for these subs was signed either in 2014 or before 2014.

We have started preliminary works at the shipyard as well.

 

[Blue Marlin]

Hi,
Just been a bit busy with family, there was a death in family so had to take some time off.

Yeah i read that one piece about Cm102 somewhere as well. Maybe it will be CM102 along side MAR-1 that will be PAF's main SEAD weapon but the thing is this is not stopping PAF and PAC from integrating other options as well. This clearly is being done with exports in mind. When it comes to options for export customers, it is always the more the merrier you know I hope that the trend will continue with more WVR, BVRAAM, anti-Radiation, stand-ff ground attack missiles and stuff.

sorry to hear that pal, hope all is well.

well yes the chinese has a huge treasure trove of kit that can go on the jet. and the end of the day if the cliet wants it they get it. and chinese have made their kit so that its as easy and as cheap as possible. not to mention as fast as possible. time is money. since the mar-1 is a specailist missiles i would forsee a larger number os cm-102's. i kinda doubt the ld-10 come to think of it.

 

[Arsalan]

sorry to hear that pal, hope all is well.

well yes the chinese has a huge treasure trove of kit that can go on the jet. and the end of the day if the cliet wants it they get it. and chinese have made their kit so that its as easy and as cheap as possible. not to mention as fast as possible. time is money. since the mar-1 is a specailist missiles i would forsee a larger number os cm-102's. i kinda doubt the ld-10 come to think of it.

Thanks for your kind words!

You are right about the huge number of Chinese options but it seems it wont end at that. PAF might well look towards non-Chinese options as well for export market. South Africans, Italians and Brazil are some potential suppliers. Also i agree with you on LD-10 and it looks more like an export option rather than a PAF procurement.

 

[Blue Marlin]

Thanks for your kid words!

You are right about the huge number of Chinese options but it seems it wont end at that. PAF might well look towards non-Chinese options as well for export market. South Africans, Italians and Brazil are some potential suppliers. Also i agree with you on LD-10 and it looks more like an export option rather than a PAF procurement.

south africa (denel) has the darter series with the a darter being a very interesting choice. and their mid size vls sams

brazil (mectron) has the maa-1a, mar-1 (pakistan has both) maa-1b which you may have. the italians have tha aspide.

which italy has and has a decent sized stake in mbda. but if you want kit from mbda you go through the uk as we have the largest share per country.

 

[Arsalan]

south africa (denel) has the darter series with the a darter being a very interesting choice. and their mid size vls sams

brazil (mectron) has the maa-1a, mar-1 (pakistan has both) maa-1b which you may have. the italians have tha aspide.

which italy has and has a decent sized stake in mbda. but if you want kit from mbda you go through the uk as we have the largest share per country.

I do not see going through UK being a problem either. Pakistan and England do enjoy good decent relations.

 

[Yasir khan Afridi]

good news !!

 

[Blue Marlin]

I do not see going through UK being a problem either. Pakistan and England do enjoy good decent relations.

indeed same applies to the italians.
so if you want.......lets say the meteor missile chances of it being approved is very high. the french may flip but who cares. heck you can use the asraam as opposed the a-darter it has a greater range near similar to the mica.

 

[Arsalan]

indeed same applies to the italians.
so if you want.......lets say the meteor missile chances of it being approved is very high. the french may flip but who cares. heck you can use the asraam as opposed the a-darter it has a greater range near similar to the mica.

Frankly speaking, i am not so sure if PAF is pursuing these options for itself. However the implications of being able to offer a Meteor with JF17 to the export customer are HUGE!!

 

[notorious_eagle]

Waste of resources if they tried to deploy HQ-9 in forward sector without a CIWS to destroy such kind of counter attacks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Harpy

May not be a boogeyman but also not upto what the PAF wants. Stop gaps were made based on emergency situations but as such the PAF has different ideas for Long range systems(or rather the IADS that is being built up as a cross service system).

There is a large gap between what everyone has in their inventory and what they have ready to go day 1. The Harpy is a very temperamental system to deploy and the IAF has focused on KH-31s instead.

Fair Enough

I always assumed we would end up keeping these batteries. After all, we ended up keeping the C602's and C803's which were shipped on an emergency basis to Pakistan.