Pakistan receives LD-10 Anti-radiation missiles

[war&peace]

Most probably a leased system and returned back to China after a specific time frame.

What is your source of info about the lease?

 

[Danish saleem]

from which platform we will fire these missile?

 

[Mrc]

Why mount an LD10 on a drone and not just the seeker on a cheap one-way drone laden with explosives to lock on to them and take them out

Excellent idea...a small drone rcently challenged robust israeli air defence and returned intact despit 3 missiles being fired at it including one patriot pac 2

 

[Ultima Thule]

It's an open secret now, in fact leaked on this very website. PAF deployed HQ-9 Batteries on its forward locations Post Mumbai Attacks. To be specific, the batteries are called FT-2000.

no it is still just rumors nothing else, no official confirmation, even not a single picture

 

[Mrc]

With 24/7 surveillance by Indian AWACS with optimized algorithms to pick out low flying and even low RCS bogies (which India can test extensively during peacetime i.e right now...esp with Israeli cooperation)....India has a useful counter against the threat of long distance based strikes that seek to use cruise missiles (on top of what already is being developed/acquired for ballistic platforms). These algorithms (on top of using several real time advanced noise reduction filters) will use many of the components you are mentioning here.

A missile launched by pakistan will have a large defensive matrix and identification process in the long run to face with in India. India for now has a broad spectrum definition of what constitutes grounds for full retaliation....but I see this changing with time as India brings more technology and counters under its umbrella (though it may not do so officially). Its similar to how I believe NFU policy by India may also be more for peacetime prestige....I doubt India would forego an opportunity for a first strike on Pakistan nuclear assets using nuclear assets itself should a clear and relatively clean opportunity present itself....in the interest of saving many millions of civilian lives.

Usually in this forum we try to stick to reality ...

For mental and physical satisfaction using dreams there are some other excellent forums out there...

May i suggest bharat rakshak

 

[Bratva]

What is your source of info about the lease?

As soon as SAM becomes online, Adversary knows about the existance of system and can capture its radiation/signature and store it in its electronic library so every EW/ESM out there know where the particular system is right now.So what is the point of hiding a system from own public if Enemies know about the system ? After the system went online, Not a single mention of HQ-9 in press or a picture released of the system. Which only means, HQ-9 was a leased system and was returned back to China. or the system never existed and it is more like a boogeyman story

 

[Nilgiri]

Usually in this forum we try to stick to reality ...

For mental and physical satisfaction using dreams there are some other excellent forums out there...

May i suggest bharat rakshak

Why don't you actually start a qualitative technical interaction with me instead of submitting so meekly?

I am interested to see if any Pakistani member here can discuss any of these issues instead of dismissing them (based mostly on their inability to understand whats being talked about)?

@Sarge and others I have great respect for because they can engage in strong constructive, clear and rationale arguments....and not just dismiss something without even illustrating what they disagree with/challenge.

 

[Mrc]

Why don't you actually start a qualitative technical interaction with me instead of submitting so meekly?

I am interested to see if any Pakistani member here can discuss any of these issues instead of dismissing them (based mostly on their inability to understand whats being talked about)?

@Sarge and others I have great respect for because they can engage in strong constructive, clear and rationale arguments....and not just dismiss something without even illustrating what they disagree with/challenge.

Lets start with very first line of your rant than shall we...
What 24/7 awacs coverage?...u only have 3 functional awacs for country your size as opposed to 7 for country size of pakistan....

I strongly suggest bharat rakshak...

 

[Nilgiri]

Lets start with very first line of your rant than shall we...
What 24/7 awacs coverage?...u only have 3 functional awacs for country your size as opposed to 7 for country size of pakistan....

I strongly suggest bharat rakshak...

I am talking when India has a full potent AWACS force in the mid term from now. Or are you only discussing in the short time frame from now till then?

 

[Mrc]

I am talking when India has a full potent AWACS force in the mid term from now. Or are you only discussing in the short time frame from now till then?

and pakistan will stand at a still for mid term from now? boss seriously .. bharat.......

 

[Nilgiri]

and pakistan will stand at a still for mid term from now? boss seriously .. bharat.......

Your GDP growth is not a very promising trend for the long term. That will ultimately dictate what capabilities each country can muster against the other.

I did some calculations using the service altitude of the phalcons. Looks like their maximum range coverage would be in the ballpark of almost 400 kilometres. 3 of them actually cover quite a lot of airspace between them....so this system is probably already being put into place for testing of lo-size+lo RCS detection.

DRDO AWACS also has similar service ceiling, but lower peak output probably means their actual optimized coverage circles would be a certain fraction of whatever it is for the phalcons I believe (which we are acquiring 2 more of).

@Water Car Engineer @Abingdonboy @PARIKRAMA what do you guys think?

 

[Mrc]

Your GDP growth is not a very promising trend for the long term. That will ultimately dictate what capabilities each country can muster against the other.

I did some calculations using the service altitude of the phalcons. Looks like their maximum range coverage would be in the ballpark of almost 400 kilometres. 3 of them actually cover quite a lot of airspace between them....so this system is probably already being put into place for testing of lo-size+lo RCS detection.

DRDO AWACS also has similar service ceiling, but lower peak output probably means their actual optimized coverage circles would be a certain fraction of whatever it is for the phalcons I believe (which we are acquiring 2 more of).

@Water Car Engineer @Abingdonboy @PARIKRAMA what do you guys think?

well i tell you what i think ... to much bollywood bad for health....

if GDP growth was only measure of success in war.... world's first superpower (roman empire) would still be a superpower today....

sionara

 

[Falcon26]

Excellent idea...a small drone rcently challenged robust israeli air defence and returned intact despit 3 missiles being fired at it including one patriot pac 2

Do you have a link? Armed drones against enemy air defense present one of the most cost effective solutions against s-300/s-400 type systems

 

[Nilgiri]

well i tell you what i think ... to much bollywood bad for health....

if GDP growth was only measure of success in war.... world's first superpower (roman empire) would still be a superpower today....

sionara

And you go back to it...lol. Can't continue the technical part of it can you? Too bad.

I will wait for someone who can then.

 

[notorious_eagle]

As soon as SAM becomes online, Adversary knows about the existance of system and can capture its radiation/signature and store it in its electronic library so every EW/ESM out there know where the particular system is right now.So what is the point of hiding a system from own public if Enemies know about the system ? After the system went online, Not a single mention of HQ-9 in press or a picture released of the system. Which only means, HQ-9 was a leased system and was returned back to China. or the system never existed and it is more like a boogeyman story

Certainly not a boogeyman, as it was deployed near the Lahore Sector Post Mumbai Attacks. It wouldn't make sense returning a system such as the HQ-9 which is the ideal system PAF needs to counter IAF's High Altitude Fast Movers.