Pakistan receives $2 billion from Saudi Arabia: Ishaq Dar

[nahtanbob]

why is america too sacred for you.

Nothing sacred about America. But expecting Saudis to treat Pakistan on par with America made for interesting commentary

 

[Azadkashmir]

Nothing sacred about America. But expecting Saudis to treat Pakistan on par with America made for interesting commentary

saudis treat usa as ummah brothers treats pak like slave.

 

[ziaulislam]

Your world is very simple, apparently. A Knight in Shining Armor or a Salahuddin Mr. Imran Khan came to Pakistan to rescue poor Pakistanis from 'the capitalists'. Irony is, some ladies VERY close to Imran were involved in very expensive diamond jewellery 'dealings' and multi-billion Rupees real estate deals and those transactions are facts. So much so for the Riyasat e Medina wannna be new-born Caliph! Hah.

You live in America like me, right? You know what 'populism' is doing to America? Multi-billion dollar student loans write offs. Covid related 'reliefs'. And many other 'social programs' while America keeps sinking low and low into debt to the point that even the NY Times, a Biden mouthpiece, recently wrote an editorial indirectly admonishing Biden for his extravagant expenditures. But then... once you start 'giving' freebies, then you have a captive and dependent electorate. That was obvious to PM Imran Khan as he sunk Pakistan deeper and deeper into debt while he sold State-Gifts like watches and pocketed the money and people like Farah Gogi and Malik Riyaz got richer and richer.

Caliph Imran Khan had no clothes.

My world is simple
Pakistan has progressive leaps and bonds in 40yrs rule of king sharif the 1st and second

All hail Queen maryum for next 20 years

Long life the queen

 

[Olympus81]

My world is simple
Pakistan has progressive leaps and bonds in 40yrs rule of king sharif the 1st and second

All hail Queen maryum for next 20 years

Long life the queen

Bro, waapas ban ho jayega. Thora halka haath.

 

[ziaulislam]

Bro, waapas ban ho jayega. Thora halka haath.

Sorry sir
Asim munir sahab zindabad

 

[uhuru]

saudis treat usa as ummah brothers treats pak like slave.

The biggest issue is Pak leadership has no sense of leadership.. They will muzzle anyone local but become idiots for sale when dealing with outsiders.

Just look at India - when they speak now, it is heard. When Pakistan speak, it is ah.. those terrorist sponsoring useless beggers.

Who is to blame - The GHQ point blank.

1. Why is it that all these dotards run away to foreign countries and during their tenure are allowed to keep overseas assets.
2. Why are they allowed to keep dual nationality.

Get rid of first 2.

For those harmed, the best course of action is to go through civil courts and Hague and launch crimes against humanity against these GHQ; you will see when their assets are siezed and scantions hit.

 

[Azadkashmir]

The biggest issue is Pak leadership has no sense of leadership.. They will muzzle anyone local but become idiots for sale when dealing with outsiders.

Just look at India - when they speak now, it is heard. When Pakistan speak, it is ah.. those terrorist sponsoring useless beggers.

Who is to blame - The GHQ point blank.

1. Why is it that all these dotards run away to foreign countries and during their tenure are allowed to keep overseas assets.
2. Why are they allowed to keep dual nationality.

Get rid of first 2.

For those harmed, the best course of action is to go through civil courts and Hague and launch crimes against humanity against these GHQ; you will see when their assets are siezed and scantions hit.

the day they copy germany (when it was under hitler) monetary and economic laws, they will awaken. nope you cant get them arrested becuase western courts turn blind and allow it. it must be done silent assassination. this alot are like desperate drug addict who do anything for a quick fix that they forget the consequences.

 

[Meengla]

The Pakistani economic indicators were ahead of India. I doubt the social indicators were ahead. Between Western largess, license raj, Hindu growth rate and India's misguided socialist policies that is not a big achievement
Once India did a course correction in 1990 it was game over on the economic side

Can't disagree with you overall, except that for almost 4 decades after Independence, Pakistan was better off than India economically. Blame or credit India and Pakistan's planners during those decades, but Pakistan did relatively better, especially if you consider where Pakistan was in 1947. Sure, foreign aid played a major role but foreign aid has been also given after those decades but squandered and probably there are other countries who too were given foreign aid by the West and the Soviets but they didn't plan well and wasted and faltered.

My point is that there is nothing inherently lacking in today's Pakistan to right the wrongs of since the late 1980s, just like India did, as you say, starting 1990.

Anyway, a rigidly-controlled version of 'hybrid' rule is coming up in Pakistan and they will have to 'deliver'. General Zia ul Haq is back on the saddle, reincarnated as General Munir. Otherwise, quite possible, there will be a true 'revolution' in Pakistan, with most likely religious and fanatical parties leading that.

PS. I hope Nawaz Sharif stays out of Pakistan, or at least doesn't become the next PM! Can't stand him!! Another egotistical, confrontational politician!!

 

[uhuru]

the day they copy germany (when it was under hitler) monetary and economic laws, they will awaken. nope you cant get them arrested becuase western courts turn blind and allow it. it must be done silent assassination. this alot are like desperate drug addict who do anything for a quick fix that they forget the consequences.

see they did this in balochistan for decades and people have taken up arms. when these dogs are labelling anyone and everyone who says anything against them as terrorists. you can then appreciate what has been hidden e.g. death squads etc in balochistan.

Kudos to BLA for standing up... but it is the foot soldier who pays the price for the amassing of wealthy by these fatcat generals.

Ask yourself... of all the world bank economists and professors that have come from LUMS.... they could only find a 3rd class accountant to be finance minister. What level of qualifications have all these dickies got at the top..... even my mouse has better IQ.

 

[Azadkashmir]

see they did this in balochistan for decades and people have taken up arms. when these dogs are labelling anyone and everyone who says anything against them as terrorists. you can then appreciate what has been hidden e.g. death squads etc in balochistan.

Kudos to BLA for standing up... but it is the foot soldier who pays the price for the amassing of wealthy by these fatcat generals.

Ask yourself... of all the world bank economists and professors that have come from LUMS.... they could only find a 3rd class accountant to be finance minister. What level of qualifications have all these dickies got at the top..... even my mouse has better IQ.

These lot have no qualification but they pass as sell out traitors so west supports them. bla needs to get on facebook, twitter etc to expose these criminals. i would not go for army but wait patiently for politicians and then target them.

 

[uhuru]

These lot have no qualification but they pass as sell out traitors so west supports them. bla needs to get on facebook, twitter etc to expose these criminals. i would not go for army but wait patiently for politicians and then target them.

Let them take these GHQ head on. remove the serpent's head; everything else will fail.

 

[Azadkashmir]

Let them take these GHQ head on. remove the serpent's head; everything else will fail.

snipers and explosives.

 

[ProudThamizhan]

Lots of wisecracks and political un-wisdom in this thread which is about Pakistan finally managing to touch KSA for some more money.

YET in spite of being alerted, NOT ONE constructive thought on how you got here (each blaming the other party is politics and not economic, especially when actual data points to something else) or how to get out of this hole.

Do any of you know how much 1) has been, 2) is being and 3) to be, paid to China under the guise of CPEC projects and investments and 4) how much has been realized as net loss/gain from these projects after 10 years? NO, nobody knows the full picture. YET that according to many of you is your ticket out of misery for a decade. Ticket to hell. You don't learn after seeing others. If you don't learn real quick, you will be selling your next port and agri land of Punjab to CCP.

Do any of you wonder why IMF stood firm on what you do with any money they give you? They did not want you to borrow from the west to pay the usurious debts to China. Among other things.

Turkey is hell bent on being admitted to EU. Take a hint and study why. Put away any thought of Erdogan muslimity etc and think deeper. There aren't two poles yet, there was going to be but Xi lost the plot. Now in spite of US bumbling, because others bunbled even worse, they are back up on the lonely top.

That means a lot of rethink for you. Not in terms of sugar daddy realignment but in terms of real nation building.

WHAT can you make and export of value that others will pay you for?
What have you done to try and become some sort of manufacturer ? Musk can singlehandedly save your country and write a cheque - has anyone invited him, open up the country and do whatever he needs to become the biggest maker of cars for Asia and Europe?


Nothing.

Just keep whining that Bajwa ate porridge or Imran stole a watch or Nawas had 3 halwa puri or Hindus stink or Afghans shaved or Americans wore rainbow.

 

[nahtanbob]

Can't disagree with you overall, except that for almost 4 decades after Independence, Pakistan was better off than India economically. Blame or credit India and Pakistan's planners during those decades, but Pakistan did relatively better, especially if you consider where Pakistan was in 1947. Sure, foreign aid played a major role but foreign aid has been also given after those decades but squandered and probably there are other countries who too were given foreign aid by the West and the Soviets but they didn't plan well and wasted and faltered.

My point is that there is nothing inherently lacking in today's Pakistan to right the wrongs of since the late 1980s, just like India did, as you say, starting 1990.

Let us put things in perspective
Accounting for hot wars South Asia was one of the poorest performing regions in the world at the end of the Cold War.

Pakistan's GDP was $38.5 billion in 1988 with population of 108 million with per captia income less than $400. India's numbers were $296 billion for 833 million people. I am sure Pakistani expatriates in the GCC states were close to today's numbers. There was a few billion in aid inflows US, multilateral and Gulf Arab following in for a decade. It does not take a whole lot to achieve the gains over India.

The only problem today is that you are competing against China and India for the leftovers

 

[Gaomayaslayer]

If this is for the upcoming repayment of the Chinese loan, why not KSA directly pays it to China. Will save a lot of time, you know.

Some percentage is needed to buy your mother.