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Pakistan pushed Afghan insurgents to the table: Experts

TTP and tribals are same most TTP belong to different tribes of tribal areas and some off them are from Punjab but mostly they are people off tribal areas supported by tribes because your army operations has killed thousands off their people and also you are an ally off USA in this so called war on terror which in reality is war on Muslims @Slav Defence

Usual khawirij line,,, That's what Khuwarij used to say to justify their fight with Hazrat Ali (R.A)
 
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And finally, for those who are adamant that Pakistan speak to the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) because the Americans are talking to the Afghan Taliban, the Afghan Taliban are asking for their country back, rightly or wrongly, grabbed by them. But their country nonetheless.

What are the TTP, among whose numbers are Uighurs and Uzbeks and Chechens and Arabs brutally killing Pakistanis for? Suzerainty over Fata/Swat/Buner and then inch forwards to Hazara, and … ? Their version of Sharia? An end to democracy in Pakistan? Burning all portraits of the Quaid and the Pakistani flag? What are their demands please?
 
TTP and tribals are same most TTP belong to different tribes of tribal areas and some off them are from Punjab but mostly they are people off tribal areas supported by tribes because your army operations has killed thousands off their people and also you are an ally off USA in this so called war on terror which in reality is war on Muslims @Slav Defence

Oh zarvan bhai who were those dead lads at peshawar found with tattoos at the back.......were the visitng peshwar asking for naswar.....who invited them in?.....your TTP owed money to these groups thats why they had to be brought in to fight for money.....
 
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And finally, for those who are adamant that Pakistan speak to the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) because the Americans are talking to the Afghan Taliban, the Afghan Taliban are asking for their country back, rightly or wrongly, grabbed by them. But their country nonetheless.

What are the TTP, among whose numbers are Uighurs and Uzbeks and Chechens and Arabs brutally killing Pakistanis for? Suzerainty over Fata/Swat/Buner and then inch forwards to Hazara, and … ? Their version of Sharia? An end to democracy in Pakistan? Burning all portraits of the Quaid and the Pakistani flag? What are their demands please?

Erase that word sharia from this post please before zarvan sees it :hitwall:
 
Erase that word sharia from this post please before zarvan sees it :hitwall:

Actually - their version of sharia is better described as salafi ideology imported from the Salafis in Saudi - a viciously fascist Najdi tribal doctrine masquerading as religion, that seeks to establish a salafi fiefdom in our backyard.

The Salafis in Saudi and their TTP/LeJ/Al Qaeda foot soldiers are the modern day Kharijites.
 
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And finally, for those who are adamant that Pakistan speak to the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) because the Americans are talking to the Afghan Taliban, the Afghan Taliban are asking for their country back, rightly or wrongly, grabbed by them. But their country nonetheless.

What are the TTP, among whose numbers are Uighurs and Uzbeks and Chechens and Arabs brutally killing Pakistanis for? Suzerainty over Fata/Swat/Buner and then inch forwards to Hazara, and … ? Their version of Sharia? An end to democracy in Pakistan? Burning all portraits of the Quaid and the Pakistani flag? What are their demands please?

Why is it called Afghan Taliban? Why not just Taliban?
 
Friends, if we could for a moment shelf the Whole Mehsud issue - they are going to gets what's coming to them - but if we could once again look at the issue of stories or articles citing how Pakistan "influenced, encourage, helped move" the Talib - I would again advise that forum members be cautious of, and concerned, by the appearance of such characterization in the press/media -- Pakistan do not need praise (Praise Whor-re-dom is best rejected), especially when the praise is going to change to the accusation of "duplicity" and "double dealing" as soon as the US or the Afghans run into problems getting their positions to attain traction.

Readers will note the self congratulatory tone of the Talat Husain article and the desperate need for praise and "pat on the back" the Pakistani officials he quotes, celebrate, shameful, certainly.

HOWEVER, notice how the issue of the intel of the Ziarat attack's origins are treated in the article, compare/contrast how both Talat Husain and the officials he quotes treat the issue and that of getting a pat on the back from US types -
 
Oh zarvan bhai who were those dead lads at peshawar found with tattoos at the back.......were the visitng peshwar asking for naswar.....who invited them in?.....your TTP owed money to these groups thats why they had to be brought in to fight for money.....

sir no body gives his life for money stop making funny assumptions that will not solve the problem Mr and @mafiya no caliph joined forces off kufr to attack Muslims like what your army did by making an alliance with within USA that comes into treason and kufr so please don't start this kharji debate

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And finally, for those who are adamant that Pakistan speak to the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) because the Americans are talking to the Afghan Taliban, the Afghan Taliban are asking for their country back, rightly or wrongly, grabbed by them. But their country nonetheless.

What are the TTP, among whose numbers are Uighurs and Uzbeks and Chechens and Arabs brutally killing Pakistanis for? Suzerainty over Fata/Swat/Buner and then inch forwards to Hazara, and … ? Their version of Sharia? An end to democracy in Pakistan? Burning all portraits of the Quaid and the Pakistani flag? What are their demands please?
please stop posting this paper off liberal scums touts off USA who will sell their ....... for dollars
 
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sir no body gives his life for money stop making funny assumptions that will not solve the problem Mr and @mafiya no caliph joined forces off kufr to attack Muslims like what your army did by making an alliance with within USA that comes into treason and kufr so please don't start this kharji debate


please stop posting this paper off liberal scums touts off USA who will sell their ....... for dollars

and Pakistan only started an operation when Nek mohammad dishonored it's agreement by killing 50 Pakistani soldiers and not handing over chehchen, tajik,uzbek and arab fighters who were causing troubles every where. Where America came in all of this

And when you don't know how kharji labeled everyone kuffar who doesn't toe their line, then you should go and read extensively about them. Your knowledge is weak!
 
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Go and have a teaching lessons of Islamic history as well as what happen in Jang e Jamal and how muslim killed each other! I'm sick of this BS being spouting again anad again.

yes they fought each other and killed what happened was wrong still none off them brought kafirs into it you followed USA orders killed Muslims betrayed Islam so your forces just betrayed ummah so stop crying
 
and Pakistan only started an operation when Nek mohammad dishonored it's agreement by killing 50 Pakistani soldiers and not handing over chehchen, tajik,uzbek and arab fighters who were causing troubles every where. Where America came in all of this

And when you don't know how kharji labeled everyone kuffar who doesn't toe their line, then you should go and read extensively about them. Your knowledge is weak!

Exactly right - the Salafis also tend to label any muslim who doesn't tow their line as apostate and liable for execution - a practice known as takfir.
 

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