Pakistan Promised Missile Armed Chinese UAVs

[A.Rafay]

 

[The Deterrent]

This means Pakistan is having problems developing its Armed UAV, the so called secret UAV we have been hearing for the past 4 Years or so.

Thats true, Pakistan has been facing some problems in developing ALL the components of the UCAV locally, which is the reason for delays. However, it has been flying for quite sometime now, the issue is with weaponization.

Without opeational satellite links, and the geographic data to backup a mission, I am not sure of the mission effectiveness even if we were to develop a combat UAV.

Pakistan does not necessarily needs satellite-based data links for the UCAV, because of the proximity of the operating area. The employment of satellites to relay the real-time information to the ground stations is required for reliable communications in distant/overseas operations, which is not the case here.

 

[Sinnerman108]

Thats true, Pakistan has been facing some problems in developing ALL the components of the UCAV locally, which is the reason for delays. However, it has been flying for quite sometime now, the issue is with weaponization.


Pakistan does not necessarily needs satellite-based data links for the UCAV, because of the proximity of the operating area. The employment of satellites to relay the real-time information to the ground stations is required for reliable communications in distant/overseas operations, which is not the case here.

No Sir,

No Satellites = Line of sight operation.

Close proximity does not mean you'd always be able to operate in the line of sight.

 

[alibaz]

No Sir,

No Satellites = Line of sight operation.

Close proximity does not mean you'd always be able to operate in the line of sight.

Flying at 4000/5000 ft is sufficient to operate in few hundred kilometers.

 

[The Deterrent]

No Sir,

No Satellites = Line of sight operation.

Close proximity does not mean you'd always be able to operate in the line of sight.

Yes, of course it will have to be operated in the line of sight. I concluded this because Shahpar can operate upto 250 km from the ground control station, and that is ample range for operating in the FATA region.

 

[Nishan_101]

Pakistan Promised Missile Armed Chinese UAVs

December 5, 2012: Pakistan recently announced that it would obtain armed UAVs from China. Few other details were revealed. Pakistan has been trying to develop armed UAVs for over six years, without success. China, however, has recently indicated that it has several missiles, especially the Blue Arrow 7 and HJ-10, that are identical in size and performance to the American Hellfire and can be used from UAVs. While these missiles have recently been offered for export, there are no known buyers or indications of how well these missiles actually work. China has also been offering a UAV of similar shape, weight, and performance as the U.S. Predator. Called CH-4, this UAV is similar in shape to the larger American MQ-9 Reaper, while its size is almost identical to the 1.2 ton Predator. CH-4 weighs 1.1 tons, has a 14 meter (46 feet) wingspan, and is 9 meters (28 feet) long. It has max altitude of 5,300 meters (16,400 feet) and an endurance of over 20 hours. This UAV should be able to carry a pair of Blue Arrow 7 missiles. Perhaps Pakistan is just waiting for some successful field tests before buying.

Over the last five years Pakistan has used several different types of UAVs along the Afghan and Indian borders. The most effective of these has been the Italian Falco UAV, which Pakistan ordered six years ago. The air force completed evaluation of the Falco four years ago and put at least four of them into service. Falco is a 420 kg (924 pound) aircraft with a 68.2 kg (150 pound) payload. Ceiling is 5,000 meters but it usually operates at lower altitudes (2,000 meters). Endurance is up to 12 hours but typical missions are 6-8 hours. Max speed is 210 kilometers an hour, although it usually cruises at 150. Falco can be up to 200 kilometers from its ground station. The UAV can take off and land on an air strip or use a catapult for takeoff and parachute for takeoff and landing.

Pakistan has also been using several Chinese UAVs for the last decade or so. First, they got the ASN-105, a 140 kg (308 pound) aircraft with a payload of 40 kg (88 pounds) and endurance of only two hours. This is a 1980s era design and has since been replaced by the ASN-206/207. This is a 222 kg (488 pound) aircraft with a 50 kg (110 pound) payload. The 207 model has a max endurance of eight hours but more common is an endurance of four hours. Max range from the control van is 150 kilometers away and cruising speed is about 180 kilometers an hour.

Pakistan is also developing its own UAVs. Four years ago it tested the Uqaab. This design looks very similar to commercial models. These are smaller (under 250 kg/550 pounds) UAVs for the government and commercial use that have been around since the late 1990s. The Uqaab also appears similar to the U.S. Army RQ-7B Shadow 200. More recently a Pakistani firm has produced the 470 kg (1,034 pound) Shahpar, which can stay in the air seven hours per sortie. This model is very similar to the Chinese CH-3.

Pakistan requested Predators from the United States, but this was turned down because it was feared that the Chinese would be allowed to dissect the American UAV and acquire too many production secrets. Pakistan and China have been chummy for decades. No secrets between friends and all that. But European nations, like Italy and Germany, have been willing to sell Pakistan unarmed UAVs.

Warplanes: Pakistan Promised Missile Armed Chinese UAVs

I am hopeful that PN will also going to place an order along with PAF of about 11-21 UAVs of such class for 24/7 duties over the Arabian Sea.

Hope this one..

I am sure that these UAVs might be able to carry similar payload like US ones which they aren't disclosing right now. Hope in the absence of MPAs in good nos. PN will going to buy 21 of these...

 

[TVVELVEMO$]

CH-4 sure looks interesting but not quite original. Falco is okay. Nothwithstanding all these good omen, a UAV system operating in an environment shared by US/NATO Reapers and Israeli-built, Indian operated Heron-2(Machatz)s ought to have more robust specs.

A truly comprehensive surveillance set-up for Pakistan requires a drone\UAV system that can cruise >250knots(air speed), >65000+ft(altitude), 24+hours operation(endurance), >2,500-7,500Ib(Internal+External payload),>1000+ nautical miles(range), >1500 horsepower (propulsion), a multi-spectral targeting capability, autonomous operation with non-line-of-sight communications & override. I think CH-4 is not there yet.

 

[Sinnerman108]

DA **** !!!!

Chineese run it on WinXP !!!

 

[giant panda]

DA **** !!!!

Chineese run it on WinXP !!!

wingloog is not XP ,but a military Linux system ,just a user interface of winXP .

 

[A.Rafay]

DA **** !!!!

Chineese run it on WinXP !!!

I also noticed it, look at the notification of warning that your window might be at risk it's a white box notification which warns you that your window is pirated lol

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

100 of these would be fantastic addition
50 for Balouchistan , 20 for Karachi , 30 for rest of country
And one drone that always flies over Zardari , acts funny , drops a laser guided bomb on his forehead

 

[qasimali]

Chinese Brothers can do anything so hope for the best. LONG LIVE PAK CHINA FRIENDSHIP.

 

[Rank]

Windows XP Pirated controlling Droneeeeeeeeeeee lolz

 

[c4two]

Exactly the drones would have been hacked by some kid defacing web pages these days lol

wingloog is not XP ,but a military Linux system ,just a user interface of winXP .

 

[MST]

wingloog is not XP ,but a military Linux system ,just a user interface of winXP .

It is a Ubuntu distribution with windows XP look and feel created by a Chinese group in 2010. Innovation even in piracy