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Pakistan PM expresses full support to Saudi Arabia after attacks on oil facilities: SPA

India is not sanctioned by Pakistan and our traders are smuggling many products from india and their content is widely published by our media then why you are expecting saudis to sanction india,it is time for us to increase influence in arab world by protecting them and inreturn we will get more favor than india if we play our card well

This is not how Arabs operate. Their loyalty lies exclusively within their ethnicity and the rest are useful idiots. You have been sold a lie and lost half of Kashmir in the process.
 
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I dont support any war in Makkah or Madina or any war for control of the holy lands but i disagree with the argument where people say Allah azzawajal understands better and would not give Kaba in the wrong hands.

We should read the Islamic history. The non Muslims had the control of Kaba for centuries, the shias had the control for nearly 100years, Yazeedis had control etc. This does not mean those people were correct, otherwise we might as well start to worship idols.

The reality is we as Muslims are responsible to give Haram authority to those who best fit it. The current Saudi regime claimed Haram control belongs to the ummah but now backtracked from that agreement. They forcibly try to propagate a Saudi version of reformist Islam on the ummah.

And who is the judge? Who decides which country is better??What makes any other country any better??? Kaaba did and will always remain with anyone Allah wills.
There is no such thing as reformist Islam, Islam is there open in Quran and Hadith to be studied. Islam is what the Prophet SAW brought, and any changes after that are wrong. You just cannot be a judge, dont use personal hatred to justify anything.
 
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You don't know what God is thinking so best to keep divinity out of the discussion. You are not Gods spokesperson so cut the BS.

I dont see anything wrong with if the Muslim ummah requests Saudi to share power of Haram Sharif. After all Islam is against racism.

And who is the judge? Who decides which country is better??What makes any other country any better??? Kaaba did and will always remain with anyone Allah wills.
There is no such thing as reformist Islam, Islam is there open in Quran and Hadith to be studied. Islam is what the Prophet SAW brought, and any changes after that are wrong. You just cannot be a judge, dont use personal hatred to justify anything.

Lol I am judging. You are using somebody else's words against me. What personal hatred? You seem to be full of yourself.

Anyways Allah almighty is the judge ofcourse but my point is why whenever somebody speaks against Saudi control of haram then suddenly people bring Allah almighty in between. If you are so pious and sincere then why not say yes we all are Muslims and one Ummah and kaba belongs to us all. Arab nationalism is racism, they think they are superior to all other muslims and Kaba belongs to them alone.

Zionist use the same arguments, they claim they are the chosen people. They are blessed with the holy lands and they are blessed with the power to conquer it. Why should they share the power with the muslims and not expand their territory. Whatever power they have, god gave it to them.

Reformist and moderate islam does exist in Saudia. They reject the Islam that has been practised for 1400 years, with the oil wealth, they have printed new modern Quran and hadith translations, twisting all the facts. May Allah azzawajal guide us all. Ameen.
 
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Lol I am judging. You are using somebody else's words against me. What personal hatred? You seem to be full of yourself.

Anyways Allah almighty is the judge ofcourse but my point is why whenever somebody speaks against Saudi control of haram then suddenly people bring Allah almighty in between. If you are so pious and sincere then why not say yes we all are Muslims and one Ummah and kaba belongs to us all. Arab nationalism is racism, they think they are superior to all other muslims and Kaba belongs to them alone.

Zionist use the same arguments, they claim they are the chosen people. They are blessed with the holy lands and they are blessed with the power to conquer it. Why should they share the power with the muslims and not expand their territory. Whatever power they have, god gave it to them.

Reformist and moderate islam does exist in Saudia. They reject the Islam that has been practised for 1400 years, with the oil wealth, they have printed new modern Quran and hadith translations, twisting all the facts. May Allah azzawajal guide us all. Ameen.

Ofcourse Kaaba belongs to all muslims, why there is even a need to reassure that? Arab nationalism is ofcourse wrong. There would be need of such talk if they created problems for pilgrimage. If you are free to perform you hajj and umrah with all facilities then whats wrong? You said Allah is judge then let Allah be judge and dont claim to know better where Kaaba belongs.


I dont see anything wrong with if the Muslim ummah requests Saudi to share power of Haram Sharif. After all Islam is against racism
Share what power of haram? The revenue? Coz what other power there is?

"They reject the Islam that has been practised for 1400 years, with the oil wealth, they have printed new modern Quran and hadith translations, twisting all the facts."

Again no one can chanhe Quran because Quran claims that, u obviously dont believe in that coz u also said u dnt believe it when ppl say Allah knows best. Also this is just stupid propaganda, where is ur proof?? Show us wat facts are twisted??
 
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Ofcourse Kaaba belongs to all muslims, why there is even a need to reassure that? Arab nationalism is ofcourse wrong. There would be need of such talk if they created problems for pilgrimage. If you are free to perform you hajj and umrah with all facilities then whats wrong? You said Allah is judge then let Allah be judge and dont claim to know better where Kaaba belongs.
twisted??

Ok so if Haram is under the control of Saudia then nobody has a right to question it or oppose it. Got ya :) but when it was under the control of Turks then Jihad was declared against it, attacks against Masjid Nabawi was part of sharia then. Double standards. Haram was under the control of Mushrikeen too but the Muslims took the control back. Please go and learn the history. Haram was under the control of Shias, it was under Yazeeedi control.

I know its very easy to hide behind Islam and bring in Allah almighty whenever things go against you.

Share what power of haram? The revenue? Coz what other power there is?
twisted??
Not everything is about the money, like the gulf arab think. Its about protecting the Islamic history, about not misusing the Haram shareef for political point scoring, about Muslim unity and brotherhood.

Be honest brother, what is so wrong if Muslim ummah sits together and manages the affairs of the Haram shareef.


Again no one can chanhe Quran because Quran claims that, u obviously dont believe in that coz u also said u dnt believe it when ppl say Allah knows best. Also this is just stupid propaganda, where is ur proof?? Show us wat facts are twisted??

Without a shadow of doubt Quran paak cannot be changed but people can mistranslate it on purpose, meaning they twist the meanings on purpose. This is why we have so many sects and jihadi groups misusing the Quran ayahs for suicide attacks and terrorism. These types of jihadis are the one who attacked Haram shareef during the Ottoman empire. All in the name of Quran and Islam. But now since it's in saudia control we cannot oppose Saudi rule because you bring Allah azzawajal will in it.

Misusing Islam is a serious crime. Be warned
 
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So u think Allah has given custodianship of his house to wrong people???? Do u think u understand better than Allah? Or u mean iran by "muslim" countries? So they can start beating and dancing around Kaaba? Typical rafidis

DO NOT BRING our RELIGION into your twisted BS political agenda, you are treading on dangerous territory of committing blasphemy! Shame on you! You sicko
 
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I think they are facing real threat we should provide them nuclear weapons to deter iran
No we shouldn't.
We should wring them for every penny we can while they are feeling vulnerable.
 
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Ok so if Haram is under the control of Saudia then nobody has a right to question it or oppose it. Got ya :) but when it was under the control of Turks then Jihad was declared against it, attacks against Masjid Nabawi was part of sharia then. Double standards. Haram was under the control of Mushrikeen too but the Muslims took the control back. Please go and learn the history. Haram was under the control of Shias, it was under Yazeeedi control.

I know its very easy to hide behind Islam and bring in Allah almighty whenever things go against you.


Not everything is about the money, like the gulf arab think. Its about protecting the Islamic history, about not misusing the Haram shareef for political point scoring, about Muslim unity and brotherhood.

Be honest brother, what is so wrong if Muslim ummah sits together and manages the affairs of the Haram shareef.




Without a shadow of doubt Quran paak cannot be changed but people can mistranslate it on purpose, meaning they twist the meanings on purpose. This is why we have so many sects and jihadi groups misusing the Quran ayahs for suicide attacks and terrorism. These types of jihadis are the one who attacked Haram shareef during the Ottoman empire. All in the name of Quran and Islam. But now since it's in saudia control we cannot oppose Saudi rule because you bring Allah azzawajal will in it.

Misusing Islam is a serious crime. Be warned

U say that just after misusing Islam urself. Show me where altered Qurans are published? When was jihad legitimate against turks? Maybe arabs thought but not the whole muslims. What do u mean by managing haram affairs? Lolz using vague terms only makes u look dumb. Do u mean the day to day affairs of mosque? Cleaning and maintenance, does that require the whole ummah? Lolz if anyone it was turks who abandoned and modified their Islam i fact turned secular. Yet no one declared jihad.
I never blindly support anyone, if u have political problems with saudi u can do as u wish but dont use Islam and bring in issues of holly places. As i said dont be the judge of holly places. A secluar nation should be the last one telling muslims how to interpret Islam.

DO NOT BRING our RELIGION into your twisted BS political agenda, you are treading on dangerous territory of committing blasphemy! Shame on you! You sicko

So your peanut sized brain cant comprehend that someone saying Makkah and Madina should be snatched and given to muslims. That is totally OK with u??
 
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The main thing Pakistan needs to do right now is fully focus on the eastern front. Do not get involed in the Iran Saudi spat.

Iran will fall and when it does this is your window of opportunity, the defining moment, take the oil fields.

If you get diverted in protecting another countrys assets you will never get to grow yours. Save your energy the wheel of geopolitical fortune has started spinning my friends.
 
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Saudi Arabia has unconditional Support from Pakistan.

Territorial integrity of Saudi Arabia is of Pakistans utmost concern and importance.

The Prime Minister is scheduled to be in Saudi Arabia to reiterate Pakistans State policy when it comes to Saudi Arabia.

Who cares

Americans are taking billions from Saudi

It’s about time we got our share

Take the money leave with a smile

Do not support them

That is the reality

How do you propose to pull off this heist?

Remember Saudi Arabia aint a bank in Dhaka
 
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So u think Allah has given custodianship of his house to wrong people???? Do u think u understand better than Allah? Or u mean iran by "muslim" countries? So they can start beating and dancing around Kaaba? Typical rafidis

Jesus Christ! By your logic, Allah has given control of Jerusalem to Jews.
 
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Can someone clean this thread of the usual sectarian crap?
 
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PM has to take firm Kashmir policy before Oct 10th. After that ..............
Who supports Pakistan?
Pakistan has no support, everyone is protecting there economic interest. But, its fine. Pakistan and Pakistani people need to stop looking outside.
 
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