Pakistan needs to replace China with Russia

[OIO]

The Sino Soviet spilt was just big lol,and one the reasons the US maintained global hegemony

USSR was more powerful than US at that time, military existing in Vietnam and encouraging Vietnam to betray China finally push China to cooperate with US in Afghanistan.

 

[JafarQureshi]

Most likely China will supply Pakistan with arms and intelligence but will not step in unless it's a dire situation where Pakistan is about to fall. It will also depend on who is attacking Pakistan. If it is India, China would be more likely to step in than if it was the US.

Either way, I don't think Pakistan is in danger of getting invaded in the near future.

This is exactly the point of this whole thread.

Chinese will sell weapons but Russians will sell weapons and will put boots on the ground if needed.

Make no mistake we know how to deal Indians but it is the US+NATO+India that would be a concern.

If we have Russian miltary and Chinese finance backing us, no power on earth can take us down.

 

[Yankee-stani]

USSR was more powerful than US at that time, military existing in Vietnam and encouraging Vietnam to betray China finally push China to cooperate with US in Afghanistan.

Yeah but still big lol both were communist and yet were rivals which really showed that even countries sharing a ideological viewpoint can be bitter enemies

 

[beijingwalker]

Pakistan can get the best from both China and Russia, it doesn't have to be one replacing the other, we actually happy to see more Russia involvement in Pakistan defence, but it's not easy, given the long partnership between Russia and India in defence industry.

 

[JafarQureshi]

USSR was more powerful than US at that time, military existing in Vietnam and encouraging Vietnam to betray China finally push China to cooperate with US in Afghanistan.

And you betrayed communism and USSR to make money with the help of the US.

I think the only thing that Chinese care in life is money.

CCP = Chinese Capitalist Party

 

[Yaseen1]

on economic front china acted wisely and they should be given credit as they attracted more investment of u.s businessmen which resulted in their more control on world economy which would be very difficult for any nation after ussr denigrated and u.s was only monopoly over world economics.If at that time china declined u.s investment they would have gone to india which resulted in much more problem for us

And you betrayed communism and USSR to make money with the help of the US.

I think the only thing that Chinese care in life is money.

CCP = Chinese Capitalist Party

 

[Yankee-stani]

And you betrayed communism and USSR to make money with the help of the US.

I think the only thing that Chinese care in life is money.

CCP = Chinese Capitalist Party

Well it's more complicated than that the spilt occured right after Stalin passed and it was merely about which juggernaut was gonna lead the Eastern bloc

 

[JafarQureshi]

Pakistan can get the best from both China and Russia, it doesn't have to be one replacing the other, we actually happy to see more Russia involvement in Pakistan defence, but it's not easy, given the long partnership between Russia and India in defence industry.

You have 17 trillion dollar economy. Why don't to give 10 billion dollars in grants every year to support Pakistan, your closest ally, just like the US does for Israel?

 

[beijingwalker]

You have 17 trillion dollar economy. Why don't to give 10 billion dollars in grants every year to support Pakistan, your closest ally, just like the US does for Israel?

China is not US, we have no ambition of the world domination. Every country has to depend on their own, no countries can survive long depending on foreign aids.

I think the only thing that Chinese care in life is money.

CCP = Chinese Capitalist Party

India has more money and is hell bent to mend ties with China, but China is very lukewarm about it.

 

[JafarQureshi]

China is not US, we have no ambition of the world domination. Every country has to depend on their own, no countries can survive long depending on foreign aids.

I know. Pakistan should decide how we will use our money. Chinese should steer clear from advising us on how and where we should we spend our money.

India has more money and is hell bent to mend ties with China, but China is very lukewarm about it.

Is that a threat? China is not doing any charity or favor to Pakistan. India is your enemy even without Pakistan. We are just partnering because India is a common enemy for both of us.

 

[beijingwalker]

Is that a threat? China is not doing any charity or favor to Pakistan. India is your enemy even without Pakistan. We are just partnering because India is a common enemy for both of us.

Why do you think it's a threat, I just say that India has more money so China didn't do everything just for money. both Pakistan and China have the right to pursue what's best for their respecitve countries. China actually wants to see Pakistan and India to mend your ties. China wants to be a friend of both countries.

 

[JafarQureshi]

Why do you think it's a threat, I just say that India has more money so China didn't do everything just for money. both Pakistan and China have the right to pursue what's best for their respecitve countries. China actually wants to see Pakistan and India to mend your ties. China wants to be a friend of both countries.

My point was that if you sell weapons to India, they will use the same weapons to fight you. Well I do not think you Chinese are suicidal. You love your life more than your money hence you try to avoid war at all costs which is reflected into your strategic thinking of winning wars without fighting.

With regards to being friends, Chinese may make friends with your enemies like Russia, US, Japan & India but Pakistan will never do that. Friendship with India will never be on the table. We don't sell our soul for making a few bucks.

 

[beijingwalker]

My point was that if you sell weapons to India, they will use the same weapons to fight you. Well I do not think you Chinese are suicidal. You love your life more than your money hence you try to avoid war at all costs which is reflected into your strategic thinking of winning wars without fighting.

Why we need to sell weapons to India, they don't need our weapons, I m not talking about wars, I m talking about doing more trade and living peacefully with each other, no one wants wars.

 

[JafarQureshi]

Why we need to sell weapons to India, they don't need our weapons, I m not talking about wars, I m talking about doing more trade and living peacefully with each other, no one wants wars.

Ok do more trade and friendship with India and live happily ever after.

We will fight India with the support of our other allies like Türkiye and Russia. Rest assured, we will fight with India with or without the support of our allies.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Why we need to sell weapons to India, they don't need our weapons, I m not talking about wars, I m talking about doing more trade and living peacefully with each other, no one wants wars.

Ignore him. We Pakistanis love our Chinese brothers and sisters.

I think the OP is simply playing devil's advocate.