Pakistan Navy Chief Desires a Nuclear Submarine to restore Balance of Power in the region

[JX-1]

Despite the Pakistan Navy always getting the smallest portion of the budget (this year merely 680 million dollars), it has always striven to modernize into a potent force. These efforts have also been acknowledged by the Indian Navy.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1667824350374789121

 

[hyperman]

How that gonna happen? Pakistan is broke.

 

[blain2]

How the fk is that gonna happen? Pakistan is broke.

There is always a way around things.
Pakistan got the bomb despite people saying we were broke in the 1970s.

Where there is will, there is a way. Pakistan will have nuclear powered submarine(s) in fleet prior to the end of this decade iA.

 

[Dalit]

What are they going to use these for anyway? Just use the money on human development for once.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Despite the Pakistan Navy always getting the smallest portion of the budget (this year merely 680 million dollars), it has always striven to modernize into a potent force. These efforts have also been acknowledged by the Indian Navy.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1667824350374789121

What Pakistan needs is Freedom and democracy ... not nuclear submarines !

 

[JX-1]

And what you'll guys do with Nuclear Submarines? India has SSBNs and will probably have SSNs in the future for China since mainland China is far away from us.
What Pakistan will do with SSBN/SSN? Take a joyride? You guys rather need more SSKs, Destroyers and Frigate and it is possible only when your economy is in stable position
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Nuclear deterrence, in the form of a second strike capability.

What Pakistan needs is Freedom and democracy ... not nuclear submarines !

Yes that's what they told Libya

 

[blain2]

What are they going to use these for anyway? Just use the money on human development for once.

Very nice and idealistic..if you cannot understand what these are for then its a moot point in the first place.

What Pakistan needs is Freedom and democracy ... not nuclear submarines !

Pakistan needs all of the above. They are not mutually exclusive so let's stop spinning these fairy tales please.

 

[JX-1]

Just use the money on human development for once.

Money in the navy's budget is to be used for military purpouses. As of now the naval budget is barely enough to sustain the existing fleet.

 

[blain2]

And what you'll guys do with Nuclear Submarines? India has SSBNs and will probably have SSNs in the future for China since mainland China is far away from us.
What Pakistan will do with SSBN/SSN? Take a joyride? You guys rather need more SSKs, Destroyers and Frigate and it is possible only when your economy is in stable position
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We know what we need and we will find the means and the wherewithal to get it iA.

 

[RealNapster]

Yes that's what they told Libya

Libya wouldnt be today's Libya if people had any say in government affairs. They were sidelined hence they revolted when found foreign support. Don't push your own populace to an edge where they will even align with devil to throw you out.

Along with Libya, you should also give example of Turkey where "happy and involved" citizens revolted against military coup backed by foreign governments. Because Turks didn't felt left out by their own government.

 

[kingQamaR]

the biggest problem is that india has a close military relationship with Russia, and the US U.K. France would never risk the possibility of nuclear Sub to India. They don’t share that technology with anybody. Pakistan will have to get ssbn maintain balance ( china )

 

[hyperman]

There is always a way around things.
Pakistan got the bomb despite people saying we were broke in the 1970s.

Where there is will, there is a way.

Building a bomb is easier than building a miniaturized reactor for nuclear submarines, and one that is quiet and functional enough to use in operations. Its very difficult stuff and requires a massive budget. There is a reason why Israel with. bigger GDP than Pakistan and a much bigger defense industry and tech base does not have a nuclear submarine, its a massive investment. The indians even with a massive economy only recently commissioned their first nuclear submarine, and that was after the decades of help from the soviets.

Unless China just straight up gives Pakistan a nuclear submarine, Pakistan isn't getting one.

Pakistan would be better off building conventional AIP submarines with that have nuclear weapons aboard for a second strike capability like the Israeli Dakar Class, rather than pursuing nuclear propulsion on its own.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakar-class_submarine?useskin=vector

Nuclear deterrence, in the form of a second strike capability.

You can have second strike without nuclear propulsion

Dakar-class submarine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[PanzerKiel]

And what you'll do with Nuclear Submarines? India has SSBNs and will probably have SSNs in the future for China since mainland China is far away from us.
What Pakistan will do with SSBN/SSN? Take a joyride? You guys rather need more SSKs, Destroyers and Frigate and it is possible only when your economy is in stable position
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And these vessels are augmented by ocean surveillance and missile tracking ship

https://twitter.com/x/status/1654053833591640064

India follows strategy of sea control.

Pakistan navy follows sea denial strategy. Weaker sides go for sea denial. Submarines are the ideal tool for someone going for sea denial strategy. During post Balakot escalation, Indian Navy had a hard time finding our MESMA AIP subs in the Indian Ocean. Surface combatants are easier to find and neutralize than submarines.

 

[Dalit]

Very nice and idealistic..if you cannot understand what these are for then its a moot point in the first place.


Pakistan needs all of the above. They are not mutually exclusive so let's stop spinning these fairy tales please.

We don't need these submarines. We need educated Pakistanis who can pay off debt and generate revenue.

 

[hyperman]

India follows strategy of sea control.

Pakistan navy follows sea denial strategy. Weaker sides go for sea denial. Submarines are the ideal tool for someone going for sea denial strategy. During post Balakot escalation, Indian Navy had a hard time finding our MESMA AIP subs in the Indian Ocean. Surface combatants are easier to find and neutralize than submarines.

This is true, but nuclear submarines are difficult, unless you are getting them from China straight up, no development required. Sea denial and second strike can be done with something like this.

Dakar-class submarine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org