see...the kashmir issue's differences and similarities to the baloch and sindhi and other movements are totally dependent on how you view the kashmiri problem...
No it is not - it is dependent upon the fact that J&K is internationally recognized disputed territory, and that India and Pakistan committed to the UNSC resolutions calling for a plebiscite to determine final status. It is India that walked out of that commitment, and therefore forcibly occupied the territory, since it refused to allow the Kashmiris to determine their status.
There is simply no such history with Baluchistan or Sindh - there were Jirga's in large parts of what is today Baluchistan that approved joining Pakistan (read through the Baluchistan sticky), and the legislature in Sindh did the same.
So there is no question of equivalence between discontent in parts of a nation that are legally and internationally recognized as part of it, and disputed territory.
i dont question your wisdom AM...i have always liked your posts...but havent many of the khalistani area commanders being sheltered in pakistan?it is expected...but i must say that the pakistani attitude has had a paradigm shift now....when there is sincerity in trying to get the perpetrators of 26/11 to justice(well almost)
Some Pakistanis curse Bhutto for helping end the
militant Khalistani movement. There are political Khalistani leaders in North America as well. The difference is when these people support a violent Khalistani cause, which as I mentioned Bhutto is credited to have helped India end.
B Raman in fact argues that India in return (or perhaps even to begin with) was supporting the
Jeay Sindh movement at the time, and the two sides stopped supporting the two movements in the others territory through a mutual understanding.
now it'd be foolish to think that we were responsible for their arriving in lakhs to our side.Indira Gandhi on record tried all diplomatic tools to engage global attention to the crisis..
undisputed:how was it undisputed AM?
On East Pakistan, I have made the point several times that the whole refugee argument is a canard - support for destabilizing East Pakistan and support for the insurgents started in the sixties, not after the refugees started arriving. Gandhi was calling for the world to take notice while her nation secretly supported the destabilization of the very territory whose instability she was decrying.
Instability in a sovereign part of a nation is not an excuse for supporting insurgencies, which is what India did. The instability in East Pakistan was for Pakistan to resolve - instead India intervened both covertly and overtly to ensure that the territory was broken off.
East Pakistan was not disputed territory, nor recognized as such by any international entity, hence undisputed. This should be clear ...
true...but we supported them against taliban...which many believe was your satellite state...and the world's most oppressive state...we still did not arm the NA...and to earn the goodwill of the afghani democratic govt...we got heavily involved in civilian projects and invested in constructions...we've lost many men in the process...pakistan on the other hand was a know supplier of arms and ammunition to the taliban...the americans will tell you that.
The taliban came to power and were initially popular because the Northern Alliance was so horrible. The atrocities, ethnic massacres and crimes perpetrated by the NA, that made the taliban look good in comparison at the time, is not something that should make you proud of having supported them back then.
The NA were thugs and warlords, and the Taliban were ideological extremists - its not really much to choose form either way. Pakistan's support for the Taliban in weapons and funds was primarily during the civil war, as was India, Iran and Russia's to the NA. I fail to see why this has to be confirmed from the Americans. You and others supported the NA, and we supported the Taliban. Heck, even the US unofficially engaged with the Taliban in order to get their companies oil pipeline deals.
The reconstruction efforts by India have primarily occurred after the Afghan invasion, and Pakistan has provided over 300 million USD in aid to India's 1 Billion USD. In addition, we are Afghanistan's largest trading partner and responsible for a significant amount of basic goods and food that Afghanistan consumes. So Pakistan's assistance for Afghanistan, both post Taliban and historically, is extremely significant, though we can obviously not match larger nations dollar for dollar in aid.