Pakistan must apologise to people of Bangladesh for atrocities during language movement: Tripura Minister

[F-6 enthusiast]

Pak - Hindu Bhai Bhai

The indian soldiers' esprit de corps toward them (upon the capitulation) stunned Osmani and Zia, as well as the other sector commanders.

one could suggest , that they owe a debt of gratitude to the indians

 

[_Nabil_]

There's is nothing wrong to say sorry to your brothers, family,....

There should be reconciliation between the brothers in Pakistan and Bangladesh.

The first one to make a move is the Brave one in my opinion.

 

[Trango Towers]

He looks Hindu and not bengali.

 

[peagle]

Well they justify it by calling them traitors and supporters of Pakistan

Which means it's okay to purge them through whatever means

This is a match between Pakistan and Bangladesh, In Bangladesh, just few months ago.

The Bangladeshi people inside the stadium are supporting Pakistan, where in the world will you find this? this is because of pure love that resides among people.
Watch full video,
especially from 12:55

Then again from 14:00, they are carrying Pakistani flags. They wouldn't do that if there was genuine hate amongst the people.
Politics gets in the way, for which we actually do need to find a permanent solution. The facts on the ground are totally different and positive.

He is an Indian youtuber.

 

[Aesterix]

Lmao, who says that ?


Maybe Pakistanis do that.. seen so many Pakistanis telling white people they're Indian in Germany



Same culture, same Language anyway

Lol yes.
Next time shame such Pakistani, same as I abundantly shame such Bengalis.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Isn't Tripura a NE Indian state.

Or maybe BD harbors the desire that Tripura should have joined Bangladesh.

This state and Manipur are ruled by the Sangh at the moment. The chief minister of Tripura is worth looking up - in Wikipedia, if nothing else.

 

[AmiEktaKharapChele]

Lol yes.
Next time shame such Pakistani, same as I abundantly shame such Bengalis.

Those individuals already have no shame, I think I couldn't shame them any further


And about you shaming those Bangladeshis, how can you shame them, if they don't exist ?

 

[_Nabil_]

This is a match between Pakistan and Bangladesh, In Bangladesh, just few months ago.

The Bangladeshi people inside the stadium are supporting Pakistan, where in the world will you find this? this is because of pure love that resides among people.
Watch full video,
especially from 12:55

Then again from 14:00, they are carrying Pakistani flags. They wouldn't do that if there was genuine hate amongst the people.
Politics gets in the way, for which we actually do need to find a permanent solution. The facts on the ground are totally different and positive.

He is an Indian youtuber.

Why don't you build on such positive and agreeable things.

Why both Pakistani and Bengali have to twist the knife in the wounds??!!

Enough talking about the past, and who killed and massacred whom. Also revenge or Vengeance is not allowed in Islam.

Just hope there is brave people on both sides, it can be athletes, artists, NGO's, ulémas, philosophers,.....

 

[F-6 enthusiast]

also their leaders in particular Indira Gandhi.. what a soul..

took the opportunity when it arose, personally not a fan of her (see operation Blue Star)

maybe those in charge of the state at the time, shouldn't have taken actions that gave rise to the conditions that caused 71
it wasn't some Machiavellian saazish as some would like to portray it.
the entire population supported the revolt , it was a policy failure by those who had a hammer to solve every problem... the colonial mindset.

 

[AmiEktaKharapChele]

took the opportunity when it arose, personally not a fan of her (see operation Blue Star)

maybe those in charge of the state at the time, shouldn't have taken actions that gave rise to the conditions that caused 71
it wasn't some Machiavellian saazish as some would like to portray it.
the entire population supported the revolt , it was a policy failure by those who had a hammer to solve every problem... the colonial mindset.

Mate, in a universe with infinite possibilities, you can't deny the possibility that, had she not taken the decision to go in (irrespective of what her motives were), our language, society, culture and way of life would probably be wiped and erased.

 

[peagle]

Why don't you build on such positive and agreeable things.

Why both Pakistani and Bengali have to twist the knife in the wounds??!!

Enough talking about the past, and who killed and massacred whom. Also revenge or Vengeance is not allowed in Islam.

Just hope there is brave people on both sides, it can be athletes, artists, NGO's, ulémas, philosophers,.....

What do you think I am doing here?

They do not twist knives into the wounds, but you have to understand these are sensitive issues, and both are large countries so there will be different kinds of people, with different ways of doing things.

The plain fact is, I am in my 40s, in all my life I have not once met a Pakistani who does not feel sorry and sad for what happened, and just want to move on.
In Bangladesh there is I think a 50/50 view, some want to move on, but some insist on further apologies.

Pakistani view is we cannot say sorry forever, and there were tens of thousands of people who suffered because they wanted to remain part of Pakistan, so their suffering has to be recognised.

An agreement was signed in the 1970s and it was decided to move on from these events. Plus various Pakistani leaders have expressed sorrow constantly.
Personally I feel, because the feeling is so strong in Bangladesh, then we should apologise exactly how they want us to, but at the same time they have to recognise the sufferings of those people who suffered and were murdered for supporting Pakistan. They were average people, normal citizens. Killing a soldier is acceptable, its sad but soldiers pay the price. But those poor people who suffered for supporting Pakistan is totally wrong and has to be recognised.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Why should we Pakistanis apologize? I did nothing wrong.

By the way, how idiotic can one get to declare independence? Just because Mujib should have been the Prime Minister of Pakistan?

So we Muslims were fighting among ourselves, and the clever India took advantage of that opportunity. I believe those were the years of Indira Gandhi.

Personally don't see me crying over the pathetic state of Bangladesh today.

 

[Joe Shearer]

took the opportunity when it arose, personally not a fan of her (see operation Blue Star)

maybe those in charge of the state at the time, shouldn't have taken actions that gave rise to the conditions that caused 71
it wasn't some Machiavellian saazish as some would like to portray it.
the entire population supported the revolt , it was a policy failure by those who had a hammer to solve every problem... the colonial mindset.

Indira Gandhi showed an ugly side but that was some years after Bangladesh, when she declared the Emergency, a thoroughly undemocratic act, that coalesced the opposition. She made part amends by permitting free elections after that, a miscalculation, perhaps, but nevertheless something that she did, and nobody else.

The next chapter, after the government that succeeded her collapsed, was difficult to narrate.

 

[_Nabil_]

What do you think I am doing here?

They do not twist knives into the wounds, but you have to understand these are sensitive issues, and both are large countries so there will be different kinds of people, with different ways of doing things.

The plain fact is, I am in my 40s, in all my life I have not once met a Pakistani who does not feel sorry and sad for what happened, and just want to move on.
In Bangladesh there is I think a 50/50 view, some want to move on, but some insist on further apologies.

Pakistani view is we cannot say sorry forever, and there were tens of thousands of people who suffered because they wanted to remain part of Pakistan, so their suffering has to be recognised.

An agreement was signed in the 1970s and it was decided to move on from these events. Plus various Pakistani leaders have expressed sorrow constantly.
Personally I feel, because the feeling is so strong in Bangladesh, then we should apologise exactly how they want us to, but at the same time they have to recognise the sufferings of those people who suffered and were murdered for supporting Pakistan. They were average people, normal citizens. Killing a soldier is acceptable, its sad but soldiers pay the price. But those poor people who suffered for supporting Pakistan is totally wrong and has to be recognised.

Thanks for the insights. I have a very vague idea of the issue.

I took your post as a positive one, so my reply wasn't addressed to you, but because you gave me the opportunity to elaborate my thoughts.

Also as I'm on phone I can't see the flags, nice to meet you my Bengali Brother

 

[Joe Shearer]

What do you think I am doing here?

They do not twist knives into the wounds, but you have to understand these are sensitive issues, and both are large countries so there will be different kinds of people, with different ways of doing things.

The plain fact is, I am in my 40s, in all my life I have not once met a Pakistani who does not feel sorry and sad for what happened, and just want to move on.
In Bangladesh there is I think a 50/50 view, some want to move on, but some insist on further apologies.

Pakistani view is we cannot say sorry forever, and there were tens of thousands of people who suffered because they wanted to remain part of Pakistan, so their suffering has to be recognised.

An agreement was signed in the 1970s and it was decided to move on from these events. Plus various Pakistani leaders have expressed sorrow constantly.
Personally I feel, because the feeling is so strong in Bangladesh, then we should apologise exactly how they want us to, but at the same time they have to recognise the sufferings of those people who suffered and were murdered for supporting Pakistan. They were average people, normal citizens. Killing a soldier is acceptable, its sad but soldiers pay the price. But those poor people who suffered for supporting Pakistan is totally wrong and has to be recognised.

Speaking entirely as an outsider, it is quite possibly that a formal apology will soothe tempers considerably. Among the Bangladeshi members on this forum, there are those who have lost near and dear ones. Among the Pakistani members, there has already been a graphic and harrowing account of how their family suffered. An apology in the form that the hawks among the Bangladeshis want will bring considerable consolation. It can only help.

They may continue to exact retribution from among their own citizens for the deeds of the past, but it should concern no one but them.