i actually planned to stay away from you for guud as i felt that your concerns and queries never would have merit a reply or clarification, but then i started feeling that it is not deliberate it is actually your real lack of understanding to the military affairs in particular and the normal working of any institution in general. So here it goes:
However, in a same token, I can also point out that anyone who is complaining about the hardship in the military have the same options. They joined the officer cadre with their own desire and no one invited or forced them to do so and they did it with the understanding of what is expected of them.
You are absolutely right to say that they knew what was coming at them and they joined in voluntarily, but unfortunately many also did know about this fact. How many teenagers actually know what actual hardships would one face on joining the military? Did you know how a banker works until you become one yourself? or can you know how an architect has to work or what hardships he has to face unless you are not in this profession? Reading stories about military hardships is one thing and experiencing them first hand is second. Going to the States as a bachelor for studies is a different experience with different worries, and going back there again after being married and a kid has different effects and bearing. Did the bachelor knew how would a 'marriage' affect him in the same location? No! You must have heard how does it feels if you take a bullet, you might have listened ti first hand experiences but sir you'll never knew about the actual pain unless you got one yourself. How a man can even understand a woman's labor pain when he dont have an iota of similarities.
Ok.
But this is NO EXCUSE! If i was not knowing before hand what i am getting into before joining the military and now when i have joined in i feel that this military business is not my baby, so should quit, that's it. Raise your hand and go home! That's acceptable, but not many do that. Not only because they are afraid that after they quit would they be getting a job outside, but because of sheer determination! Some take it as a challenge, others take it as a life. Some say it you are tough, dude i am tougher, others, let's see how hard it can be, i was born to face the hardships!
Not many has the guts to take life like this.
i know many who when asked if you wanna join the military would say, heck no, i am not ready to get my life ruined, who needs to kill his normal life and be the boots.
So sir if they have joined it they had the water to face the blunt and not to duck.
Allow me to give you my personal example (it's so bad toi give one's on, though):
i am a position holder in FSc! in board exams ofcourse!
i got my entry tests cleared in:
FAST Karachi
IBA, Karachi.
GIK.
NED Karachi.
i left these and started doing CA at Tabanis, Karachi BUT, then i left it in the favor if the Army!! Now that's need something more than a
dhaka to join the Army. Today, only if today i want to quit i can and i am sure with the military credits behind my back i can join a better paid job, but we dont quit! Understand or Cycle stand?
In return they are handsomely paid with all the perks and benefits.
Sir if you say that the are 'handsomely' paid then you are gravely mistaken! if you consider Rs 6000/- as a bisic pay when someone joins in as a Grade 17 Officer who has been granted Commission by the President, as HANDSOME, you need to visit the definition of the word sir. Add the allowances and you land up somewhere around Rs 8K-9K. A dude who has to pay for his food (everybody does but not the way officers had to pay due to many reasons-to be discussed later), uniform, electricity, gas, water, etc etc, and most importantly to live as a human being! It is like living in a hostel, a college hostel, have you been to one? ty to find out how much your parents had to pay for that? Try to sum up the expenses you require at the college hostel, the uniforms, the furniture (or may be they give that as part of the room), the food, the mess subs, the pocket money that you require etc etc, take the tuition fee and book expense out of it. BUT I AM TALKING ABOUT A HOSTEL WHICH LET YOU STAY HUMAN!! I MEAN YOU CAN GET A HOSTEL ROOM RS 2000 A MONTH BUT DID YOU GO TO ITS WASHROOM? OR HAVE YOU SEEN THE CONDITION OF ITS FURNITURE OR THE MESS STANDARD THEY PROVIDE YOU WITH? So the emphasis is on quality! officer like quality!
i challenge you if you can come up with a Human Like Hostel which can be maintained within Rs 10K !! Messing included. Dont give me the example of a Sarkari Hostel which are available for Rs 15 K per year and everybody in the morning is standing in their vests in a queue with a towel on one shoulder and a toothbrush in their mouths!! Oh i forgot to mention who has to buy the curtains, carpet mattress, pay the electric/gas/water bills etc etc. And if you forgot, we are not in that room because if to STUDY we are there living a normal life like any human who needs a TV, something to listen, some crockery, lots of cloths, cable and stuff may be an internet connection etc etc!! Let me see if you can get me these in RS 10K a month! And then i'll talk about the pays of senior captains and major there after.
Where in the Pakistan, a FA or at the most BA passed can get a job like a commissioned officer
Lolzz... this is why i dont feel like answering you.
Sir if you think that 'they' are just ordinary FA and BAs you are slightly mistaken! i have said a 100 times on this forum that what fun it is if you pass you Matric in a 'D' grade, and tomorrow you would complain to the govt for not letting you have a job. Who the heck is going to give a job even to an engineer who has merely passed his degree with a worthless GPA? Coming back to the point. they are not just 1 x FA or BA, they are BETTER then their like of their batch in schools, colleges all over Pakistan that out of 14000-17000 only 300-400 make into PMA and only 250-300 actually get pass the PMA Gate!! Let you not be comparing then with a dude who is FA and cant write an application for
chotti..oops i lowered my standards!
To answer you completely, for your kind information i have a cousin who is simple DAE (Diploma of Associate Engineer) which is actually equivalent to FSc and guess what he got his first job in a private company with a starting pay of Rs 20000/- !! Surprised? i have a neighbor, not exactly a neighbor who was simple BA and got a job in a garment factory in Lahore which exports its jeans to USA, and guess what, his start salary was RS 25000/-
Oh may be they were much better then their competitors? As the dudes are who get pass the ISSB! As i have mentioned earlier not every officer becomes a general, not every Grade 1 officer in a bank makes a VP, not every ASP makes an IG etc etc similarly not every Masters or MBA gets the same job and salary scale as a few does. Now tomorrow i may find you arguing with me that why dont we get every engineer a 50K job, or why cant every scientist can invent something new!
and at retirement being a millionaire?
Ahan, discussed down the drain!
But still, i'll like to add that say thanx to the excellent care that the military takes of its employees who give their prime youth period to the military while sitting on mountains and deserts! The reasons have been amply explained by Agno, only if you want to see them.
If they don’t like it, then they have the option to leave and I am sure there is 1000’s in line that would be happy to take their place as jobless rate in Pakistan is very high.
No sir not many would be ready!
If they might be ready they might not fit the criteria required by the military.
Not many like to leave their cozy lives, let me assure you, i have seen duckers quite frequently!
As for the unemployment rate, try to see some Sunday Newspaper and see the list of jobs, i have been through this for my brother, and surprisingly it came to me that the job says we only need those guys to apply whose GPA is 3.9, only APPLY, dude what to talk about getting the job -they dont even want to waste their time on an MBA who has a GPA lower than that threshold! So sir if most of us are going to get a pathetic grade and then complain of unemployment who has to be blamed? Govt, i guess, so please do so. Though i dont say that we dont have a high unemployment rate, yes we do, and that's a separate debate, so may be some other time.