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Pakistan may not buy the Chinese VT-4, but the cheaper Ukraine's T-84M or the Russian T-90S tank

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If VT-4 is that great why isn't the Chinese military not buying it? The very fact that there are ZERO VT-4s in service with the Chinese army tells you that this tank is a cheap copy of some Russian tank, and that the performance of this tank is unsatisfactory. Unfortunately a couple of Chinese members have a bad habit of posting unsubstantiated news and opinions.
 
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Is this your own commentary or based off an article?

Btw, i immediately stopped reading when i came to 'pakistan wants nuclear submarine'
Excuse @Adam WANG SHANGHAI MEGA , he can be excitable at times.

This is where the Americans are different. You are coming off real cheap.

You have to do better than this to a strategic partner.
America provides aid to Pakistan to fight it's War on Terror. Pakistan used to be America's agent of chaos against USSR. This in the long run does much more damage to Pakistan than the money they recieve from the US.

China doesn't push Pakistan in that direction or use it to fight it's wars but rather prefers a more stable region through development.

With all the costs accounted for I think the US is the cheap one. It externalized much of the costs of its geopolitical ventures upon others while give tokens as compensation. The US and China has different goals with different price tags. To focus on some aid money is tunnel vision.

Recent obsession with aid money due the incident with America threatening to cut aid is unhealthy. Of course this shows the effectiveness of aid money as a political tool.
 
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Yes Tell this to huawei P 20 Pro,let us see if you can get one more cheaper!
yes,right i forget,cheap products specially made for cheap indians,bingo!!!!
Want to spend 10 USD to get 50 USD quality,YOU CAN FORGET IT!!!

I don't know whether you are playing dumb or just plain dumb :angry:. Your alleged high iq is probably a hindrance to developing emotional connections. I deeply regret that South Asians cant sideline their differences and come together for their greater good.

Pak will definitely wish they had played their cards better with USA
 
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That is one long convoluted excuse from you :disagree: This is where the Americans are different. You are coming off real cheap.

You have to do better than this to a strategic partner.
And your Arjunk is out of this universe @Mace :p:;):enjoy:
 
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Unlike next gen jets are these next tank have nothing extraordinary that can't be emulated in existing tanks with upgrade so why waste $

USA German still using the upgraded version of 70s era m1 and leopard2
Another useless comment. The VT-4 indeed has something extraordinary. The engine layout and transmission are ahead. No matter how much you upgrade of your T-72 or T-84, it still cannot be compare.
 
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If VT-4 is that great why isn't the Chinese military not buying it? The very fact that there are ZERO VT-4s in service with the Chinese army tells you that this tank is a cheap copy of some Russian tank, and that the performance of this tank is unsatisfactory. Unfortunately a couple of Chinese members have a bad habit of posting unsubstantiated news and opinions.

These is the domestic version of VT-4. T99A2

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If Ukraine tanks is a TOT, then it should be a good deal for Pakistan...Otherwise they should stick 2 Chines tanks...China gov may help in this deal to sweeten it for Pakistan..
 
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I don't know whether you are playing dumb or just plain dumb :angry:. Your alleged high iq is probably a hindrance to developing emotional connections. I deeply regret that South Asians cant sideline their differences and come together for their greater good.

Pak will definitely wish they had played their cards better with USA
You mean annexed by Yankees and abandon nuclear weapon rights and 800 km or more rang missle development rihgt and war engagement and command right??? And change govement structre and regim to yankees' one!!!
Sure why not!!??
If Pakistan abandon nuclear weapon rights and 800 km or more rang missle development rihgt and war engagement and command right to China and nd change govement structre and regim just like China gov,i am sure,China will take care much more aspects of Pakistan,after all it is a half colony already of China.
Why not you india sign ally treaty with Yankees and abandon your nuclear weapons first,please reminber Jap and S.korea does not have nuclear weapons or the right to pursue them!
S.korea has no rights to start a war without permission of yankees commanders!

ukraine is in a pickle let's get the whole technology i. e(oplot M) lock stock and barrel and customise it to our own needs and environment. China helped us make alkhalid that way. and we should be thankful to china for that.
master the advanced techs by yourself is the key to become developped country and be richer!

That is why Yankees is afraid of China already,coz China is on the right way to master the most advanced techs,not by stealing,tell me where does huawei steal the 5G techs when its own techs leading the world telecommunication(huawei spent 50 billions USD to develop Kirin serie chipset)!

And where does China steal the world frist quantum communication satellite tehcs when CHina's is the world
first case?!
 
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