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Pakistan,Law abiding citizens: Only 47% consumers pay for electricity

not sure about the rest but cities esp Karachi its the slums controlled by different mafias whose prime occupation is land grabbing and these people do not pay bills , Forget KESC even army does not dare go in those areas .. The residents do pay but the electric consumption charges are invoiced and charged by the land mafia heads not KESC
 
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why blame the govt when most dont pay for what they use. if there is no civic sense then you can hardly expect normalcy .

Thats the irony.

Electricity was cut off to a area because majority did not pay their bills for the last 1 year. And then they took to the street and blocked a important road in karachi and burned a petrol pump and other buildings.
 
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Pointless to blame the consumers. Lack of governance is the cause for this crisis. As per some report.. 92% of the tribals don't pay for this service either. Pakistan also lacks when to comes to revenue management.. there is no effective tax collecting system either. Effective system & governance is the need of the hour in Pakistan.

92pc tribals don’t pay electricity bills

Well, whose fault is it? Cut off the electricity on failure to pay the electricity bill for 2 consecutive months and everybody will start paying.

Thats the irony.

Electricity was cut off to a area because majority did not pay their bills for the last 1 year. And then they took to the street and blocked a important road in karachi and burned a petrol pump and other buildings.

Impose curfew on these assholes and force recovery of all losses including late payments and damage to properties plus inconvenience caused because of them to the LEA's and general public. Make someone an example and the rest will fall in line.
 
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Pointless to blame the consumers. Lack of governance is the cause for this crisis. As per some report.. 92% of the tribals don't pay for this service either. Pakistan also lacks when to comes to revenue management.. there is no effective tax collecting system either. Effective system & governance is the need of the hour in Pakistan.

92pc tribals don’t pay electricity bills

Tribal areas are the cause of Most if not all of our problems we face Today.

not sure about the rest but cities esp Karachi its the slums controlled by different mafias whose prime occupation is land grabbing and these people do not pay bills , Forget KESC even army does not dare go in those areas .. The residents do pay but the electric consumption charges are invoiced and charged by the land mafia heads not KESC

Those Mafias are pets of Most politicians and allowed to Grow army dosent enter those areas as its not allowed to clean up and their hands are tied by their political masters.

kESC was privatized but not allowed to operate as private company no mafia can menage to do that to a private corporation unless mafia as a significant pull at the top.
 
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MObs are like dogs ...if u provide a treat for bad tricks u end up reinforcing the bad trick ...so te next time the dog does the same bad trick he expects a treat.

One cannot just blame one or the other for the systematic and systemic failure of Pakistani governing bodies and institutions .
 
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When desperation reaches a level where right and wrong do not matter, anarchy is not far behind.

Well the bright light is that elections are just a few months away, so maybe we can wait out until that time!
 
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Well the bright light is that elections are just a few months away, so maybe we can wait out until that time!

I hope so too. Just don't expect any immediate miracles. The problems have been mounting for a long time, such as the power crisis, and will also take a considerable period of time to resolve.
 
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I hope so too. Just don't expect any immediate miracles. The problems have been mounting for a long time, such as the power crisis, and will also take a considerable period of time to resolve.

No sirree. Not expecting any miracles!!

Another bomb-shell just recently. That the fuel is shifted from industry to power sector. These short term solution just to get votes never does the job. A sustained effort is needed, with a sight for the next 20 years. Had we done something in the 90's, it wouldn't have been like this. Nawaz Sharif and BB government (who are being made saints) also get the blame for this.

A couple of mega projects around the 4000MW each range and a well thought out plan encompassing every aspect, tax collection, imports, future projects, Thar coal, etc etc needs to be chalked out.

And frankly, i don't see that happening any time soon. Betterment can happen, but total eradication, no.
 
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Can any one tell what is the cost of electricity per kwh?

Bill collection is the job of the electricity company. Just issuing the bill is not sufficient. they also have to follow through in due time to see that all the bills are paid. If they fail in doing there job then they have to take the responsibility of their failure. If the bills are not collected in time, then it will be difficult to collect at all. With the time bill will accumulate and it will be out of reach of the people to pay.
 
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Can any one tell what is the cost of electricity per kwh?

Bill collection is the job of the electricity company. Just issuing the bill is not sufficient. they also have to follow through in due time to see that all the bills are paid. If they fail in doing there job then they have to take the responsibility of their failure. If the bills are not collected in time, then it will be difficult to collect at all. With the time bill will accumulate and it will be out of reach of the people to pay.

The problem is not of only of the guy who has one bulb and a fan in his jhonmpri, but of mega corporations with political affiliations, like a factory of Ahmed Mukhtar etc who dont pay their bills.
 
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not sure about the rest but cities esp Karachi its the slums controlled by different mafias whose prime occupation is land grabbing and these people do not pay bills , Forget KESC even army does not dare go in those areas .. The residents do pay but the electric consumption charges are invoiced and charged by the land mafia heads not KESC

Karachi and Sindh are a mess when it comes to electricity theft. Many MQM dominated areas in Karachi don't pay electricity bills and so is the case with ANP and PPP.
You know what happened at Apsara apartments and Al-Karam sqaure a few days back when KESC suspended electricity supply. And these are MQM infested areas.
You must have also seen kundas in Lines Area and know who this area belongs to? Again MQM.
And don't get me started on Lyari where PPP goons freely steal electricity and Rabia City Gulistan-e-Jauhar where ANP has free reign.
In whole country I guess Karachi is the worst in terms of electricity theft.
 
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Law abiding citizens: Only 47% consumers pay for electricity

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ISLAMABAD:

The government has failed to collect Rs495 billion worth of electricity bills in the last eleven months, taking recovery ratio to 47%, one of the lowest ever in the country’s history.

The unrecovered amount is two times more than what the government claims is the circular debt, which has caused massive load-shedding across the country, leading to riots across Punjab and Khyber-Pakthunkhwa.:eek:

According to a fact sheet, prepared by the finance ministry on the basis of information provided by finance department of Pakistan Electric Power Company, from July to May (2011-12) all the distribution companies, including Karachi Electric Supply Company, billed consumers Rs895.3 billion while collection remained at only Rs400.8 billion, which is 47% of the total billing.

The low collection will make it difficult for power distribution companies to payback power generation companies and aggravate the power crisis.

During this period, Syed Naveed Qamar was the Federal Minister for Water and Power, who has recently been assigned the portfolio of Minister for Defence after he failed to improve electricity supply in the country.

The collection has significantly dipped despite the fact that the government has obtained a $325 million loan from the Asian Development Bank to improve the efficiency of power distribution companies. A cabinet committee on energy, headed by Finance Minister Dr Abdul Hafeez Shaikh also could not improve the situation.

According to the details, February was the worst month in terms of collection when the power distribution companies (Discos) collected only Rs26 billion against total billing of Rs99.2 billion, showing a gap of Rs73.2 billion in a single month. October was the second worst month when the Discos collected only Rs45.9 billion against total bills of Rs114.1 billion, showing a gap of Rs68.2 billion.

In May this year, the total collection remained at Rs35.9 billion against the billing of Rs87.4 billion- a gap of Rs51.5 billion. In April, the Discos billed Rs79.4 billion but collected only Rs30.2 billion, in March against Rs51.8 billion billing the collection remained at Rs31.3 billion and in January the collection was Rs29.3 billion against total billing of Rs77 billion.

November was the only month when the collection rose to 71% as the Discos managed to collect Rs41.2 billion against total bills of Rs57.6 billion.

A senior government functionary attributed political interference in running the affairs of the Discos as the main reason behind deterioration of an extreme nature. He admitted that former Water and Power Minister was running the Discos affairs and appointed people according to his liking and disliking. Naveed Qamar was not available for comments.

Ministry of Water and Power view

The spokesman for the Water and Power Ministry contested the low collection figure. Zargum Khan said that Discos excluding KESC billed Rs534.3 billion consumers from July 2011 to April 2012 and managed to collect Rs461 billion, showing 86.3% recovery rate. The amount is inclusive of distribution margins of Discos.

He, however, admitted that during the first ten months of the fiscal year all power generation companies generated 74 trillion units of electricity but Discos sold 72 trillion units while the rest were lost on account of technical losses and theft.

100% collection of data is not possible as 10-12% of the billed amount is retained by power distribution companies as distribution margins while there are also some justified line losses, Khan said.

To a question, he said Rs166 billion dues were outstanding against private consumers and the amount has surged due to stay orders granted by courts against fuel price adjustment charges. Khan admitted that in some cases collection was as low as 5.5% (tribal regions) and 29% (Quetta) but in other cases the ratio was 100% for Gujranwala and 99% for Faisalabad regions.

THOSE WHO DONT PAY SHOULD NOT CRY OVER LOAD-SHEDDING :rolleyes:

Law abiding citizens: Only 47% consumers pay for electricity – The Express Tribune

this news has a single meaning, that is, only 47% pakistani nationals may afford to pay for the electricity bill, while Pakistani government can't supply more than 50% demand of electricity also :hitwall:

we have a proposal as below, which would need escalation of tension in Gulf and then we may get proper right to fight for the justice of Asians, in the post as below. we find, economy of Pakistan+Bangladesh+Afg=$300bil while that of SA is around $600bil, and as population of Saudi is almost nothing as compare to 180mil+160mil=340mil population of Pak+BD, so the merge of SA will have increased per capita income of the nationals of Pakistan+Bangladesh+Afg by 3 times suddenly :agree:

but in economics, it will mean as 1+2=6 (almost). means, $200bil+$600bil= $2tn within just 3-4 years :agree:. as, since the merge of SA, Pak+BD+AFG will start getting oil/gas from SA on just production cost of around $20 per barrel, with doubling supply of oil/gas to PAK+BD which will first reduce prices by around 50% in these two countries, and at the same time the electricity supply will then increased by at least 50% suddenly due to enough supply of oil/gas which will reduce electricity cost of Pakistan by up to 66% suddenly. and also industries will then produce the products in pakistan for very less price due to 66% reduced price of electricity and much less transportation cost due to oil at $20/barrel. it will increase per capita income of these two countries by 50% suddenly due to -50% inflation for the first year for the same salary of their nationals. and an inflow of workers of Pak+BD+Afg to SA will result in hefty inflow of remittances to PAK+BD also within 3-4 years. and at the same time, as increased demand in PAK+BD will be fulfilled by increased oil production in SA at just production cost only, it will not effect export volume of Pak controlled SA also. in sum, we hope per capita income of PAK+BD+AFG to be increased by six fold within next 3-4 years of merge of SA in PAK+BD+AFG :)

my dear friends, things change with an idea and then we plan and make it in applicable. i would welcome ideas of Asian nationals on the post as below :tup:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...n-do-main-tumhe-azaadi-dunga.html#post3065021
 
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