Pakistan in talks with Saudi Arabia to send combat troops to protect the kingdom

[Morpheus]

Source of this news is unreliable

Agree. None of the major new outlet are reporting it so far.

 

[Jacob Martin]

dont worry about us. care about yourself.. there is no shia sunni quagmire angle to begin with. just fallacy..

Pakistan is not going to war nor going to attack Yemenies, Pakistani brigade will only guard Saudi eastern border. inside Saudi arabia.

Yeah...I hope the blowback takes into account the fact that the Houthis Shia backed by Iran against a Sunni coalition led by KSA is merely incidental.

If wishes were horses.....

 

[H!TchHiker]

Not much reliable news source

 

[Windjammer]

I guess Saudi ambassador to Pakistan is dropping the hint.

رائد عبدالله الغامدي‏ @AmbassadorKsa
#PakistanArmy

always together

 

[Devil Soul]

so what has happened ,they should have joined when asked in the begining,Pakistan always misses the timing

Missed the timing ?? Did this development had a time frame?? Don't think so Pakistan made the move according to the timing it deemed proper...

 

[Max]

Yeah...I hope the blowback takes into account the fact that the Houthis Shia backed by Iran against a Sunni coalition led by KSA is merely incidental.

If wishes were horses.....

Pakistan is not part of coalition which is fighting against Yemen. dont confuse with 39 country alliance.
2nd you low IQ bharati should avoid Iran and Shia word to scare Pakistan from middle east.. Pakistan have great history of Civil and military relation with GCC and will continue.

 

[The SC]

Not much reliable news source

PAKISTAN SENDS COMBAT TROOPS TO SAUDI SOUTHERN BORDER


Sourced : Middle East Eye


The Pakistan army is sending a brigade of combat troops to shore up Saudi Arabia’s vulnerable southern border from reprisal attacks mounted by the Houthis in Yemen, according to senior security sources.

The brigade will be based in the south of the Kingdom, but will only be deployed inside its border, the sources told Middle East Eye. “It will not be used beyond Saudi borders,” one said.

It is the latest twist in a brutal and devastating two-year war, which has killed more than 10,000 people in Yemen, injured over 40,000 and brought the impoverished nation to the verge of famine.


Both sides have been accused of war crimes and starving civilians trapped in the carnage.


The war was launched by Saudi Arabia and its Arab coalition allies after the Houthis overran Sanaa, the Yemeni capital, and the southern port of Aden and ousted the Saudi-backed president, Abd Rabbuh Hadi.


Increasingly, the Houthis have been retaliating with cross-border missile strikes on targets deep inside the kingdom.


Last month the Houthis claimed to have hit a military camp near al-Mazahimiyah near Riyadh with what they called “a precision long-distance ballistic missile”. The Saudis denied the claim.


On 31 January 2017, a missile killed 80 soldiers on a base run jointly by the Saudis and Emiratis on Zugar island in the Red Sea, according to reports in Arabic media. The Saudis did not confirm nor deny the strike.


In October last a year a missile was shot down about 65km from Mecca, although the Houthis denied targeting the holy city.

The deployment of the Pakistani brigade follows a visit by General Qamar Javed Bajwa, the Pakistani Chief of Army Staff (COAS), to Saudi Arabia on a three-day official visit in December last year.


“COAS reiterated Pakistan’s commitment to the security and protection of the Holy Mosques and also the territorial integrity of the kingdom,” the Pakistani army said in a statement.


“Later, General Qamar Javed Bajwa met chief of general staff of Saudi Forces, General Abdul Rehman bin Saleh al-Bunyan, to discuss military to military relations, defence cooperation and regional security situation.


“Both leaders agreed to boost military cooperation and collaboration.”


The area of deployment for the Pakistani brigade is politically sensitive in Islamabad, because two years ago the parliament rejected a request by Saudi Arabia’s King Salman for Pakistan to join a “Sunni” coalition to fight the Houthis.


The Houthis, whose tribesmen mostly follow Zaidism, a variant of Shia Islam practised by a minority in northern Yemen, are backed by Iran, although the level of direct support provided by Tehran is disputed.


Parliament debated the deployment for four days, a debate dominated by the fears of further stoking sectarian violence in Pakistan where 20 percent of the population is Shia.


The parliamentary debate also became the target of intense lobbying.


Iran’s foreign minister, Javad Zarif, met both Pakistani Prime Minister Prime Nawaz Sharif and the former chief of army staff, Raheel Sharif, as the debate took place.


The Iranians back the Houthis politically, and Saudi Arabia, the US and Australia all say they have supported them militarily as well.


The senior Houthi leaders have been trained by, and their paramilitary structures modelled on, Hezbollah, the Iran-backed Lebanese militia. Advisers from the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) have also been involved.


Last year, state-affiliated media in Iran said the Houthis were using Iran-made Zelzal-3 surface-to-surface solid fuel missiles, although they insisted the weapon was produced “indigenously”.


Sharif owes his life to the Saudis, who saved him from execution after a military coup which brought Pervez Musharraf to power in 1999.


However, the prime minister’s wish to repay a personal debt to the Saudis was not reciprocated by the Pakistan army.


Generals argued then that they were overstretched with campaigns against the Pakistani Taliban in the North West Tribal Areas.


Since then, however, senior military sources in Pakistan claim to have pushed the Taliban out of Swat valley and North Waziristan.


Parliament however is currently pursuing expanding trade links with Iran. Awaid Leghari, the chairman of the foreign affair’s committee of the National Assembly, recently met Ali Larijani, the speaker of the Iranian Majlis, and Alludin Boroujerdi, the chairman of Iran’s foreign policy and security committee in the Islamic Consultative Assembly.


A parliamentary delegation from Islamabad is also due to visit Tehran in May. They will discuss re-opening three border markets, a projected gas pipeline and tourism.


Leghari told Pakistan’s Dawn newspaper that both sides, he observed, were now feeling “internal pressures” to engage in a big way for mutual benefit.


“More pressure would have to be exerted from within the economies and people and media,” he said.


The deployment would not be the first in relations between the two states. Mohammad Zia ul-Haq deployed an elite Pakistani armoured brigade to the kingdom at King Fahd’s request after the Iranian revolution in 1980.


The brigade was deployed for a decade and some 40,000 soldiers served in it.


http://blogs.plymouth.ac.uk/dcss/2017/03/13/pakistan-sends-combat-troops-to-saudi-southern-border/

 

[sparten]

dont worry about us. care about yourself.. there is no shia sunni quagmire angle to begin with. just fallacy..

Pakistan is not going to war nor going to attack Yemenies, Pakistani brigade will only guard Saudi eastern border. inside Saudi arabia.

I hope the news is false. Becuase, lets face facts if we are on the border; even if we don't move in, we are in deep do do. So what happens if a missile strike kills Pakistani troops? I can assure you there will be such an outcry back home and calls for revenge, the Army will have no choice but to launch heavy counter strikes. Which will undoubtedly kill Iranian proxies; which leaves us back to being anti-Iran as we did not want to be in Spring 2015.

Not.Good.At.All.

 

[Max]

I hope the news is false. Becuase, lets face facts if we are on the border; even if we don't move in, we are in deep do do. So what happens if a missile strike kills Pakistani troops? I can assure you there will be such an outcry back home and calls for revenge, the Army will have no choice but to launch heavy counter strikes. Which will undoubtedly kill Iranian proxies; which leaves us back to being anti-Iran as we did not want to be in Spring 2015.

Not.Good.At.All.

Well i am not in favor of fighting Yemenies, not bcoz they are proxy of fvcking Iranian Mullahs or are shia, yahoodi or hindu and i am scared of them.. but bcoz of my signature.

The Prophet(Saww) beckoned with his hand towards Yemen and said, “Belief (Eeman) is there.” Bukhari

 

[salarsikander]

so what has happened ,they should have joined when asked in the begining,Pakistan always misses the timing

Why what has happened now ? trust me were waiting for modis isolation policy, so that we can give up him arse

Why now , what has changed suddenly ? Is it because Raheel Sharif has been made CnC or that are plaaning for new push for regional security alliance

Dynamics have shift mostly, We need to step up the game

 

[The SC]

Well i am not in favor of fighting Yemenies, not bcoz they are proxy of fvcking Iranian Mullahs or are shia, yahoodi or hindu and i am scared of them.. but bcoz of my signature.

The Prophet(Saww) beckoned with his hand towards Yemen and said, “Belief (Eeman) is there.” Bukhari

It is difficult now a days to figure out where Eeman is in Yemen, it is practically Yemenis fighting other Yemenis and GCC is supporting the legitimate government..When war was going on between South Yemen and North Yemen for decades where was Eeman North or South? it is difficult to know..

 

[MastanKhan]

Brigade deploys to shore up border against Houthi reprisal attacks from Yemen, but sources tell MEE it will 'not be used beyond Saudi borders'

The Pakistan army is sending a brigade of combat troops to shore up Saudi Arabia’s vulnerable southern border from reprisal attacks mounted by the Houthis in Yemen, according to senior security sources.

The brigade will be based in the south of the Kingdom, but will only be deployed inside its border, the sources told Middle East Eye. "It will not be used beyond Saudi borders," one said.

It is the latest twist in a brutal and devastating two-year war, which has killed more than 10,000 people in Yemen, injured over 40,000 and brought the impoverished nation to the verge of famine.

Both sides have been accused of war crimes and starving civilians trapped in the carnage.

The war was launched by Saudi Arabia and its Arab coalition allies after the Houthis overran Sanaa, the Yemeni capital, and the southern port of Aden and ousted the Saudi-backed president, Abd Rabbuh Hadi.

Increasingly, the Houthis have been retaliating with cross-border missile strikes on targets deep inside the kingdom.

Last month the Houthis claimed to have hit a military camp near al-Mazahimiyah near Riyadh with what they called "a precision long-distance ballistic missile". The Saudis denied the claim.

On 31 January, a missile killed 80 soldiers on a base run jointly by the Saudis and Emiratis on Zugar island in the Red Sea, according to reports in Arabic media. The Saudis did not confirm nor deny the strike.

In October last a year a missile was shot down about 65km from Mecca, although the Houthis
The deployment of the Pakistani brigade follows a visit by General Qamar Javed Bajwa, the Pakistani Chief of Army Staff (COAS), to Saudi Arabia on a three-day official visit in December last year.

"COAS reiterated Pakistan's commitment to the security and protection of the Holy Mosques and also the territorial integrity of the kingdom," the Pakistani army said in a statement.

"Later, General Qamar Javed Bajwa met chief of general staff of Saudi Forces, General Abdul Rehman bin Saleh al-Bunyan, to discuss military to military relations, defence cooperation and regional security situation.

"Both leaders agreed to boost military cooperation and collaboration."

The area of deployment for the Pakistani brigade is politically sensitive in Islamabad, because two years ago the parliament rejected a request by Saudi Arabia's King Salman for Pakistan to join a "Sunni" coalition to fight the Houthis.

The Houthis, whose tribesmen mostly follow Zaidism, a variant of Shia Islam practised by a minority in northern Yemen, are backed by Iran, although the level of direct support provided by Tehran is disputed.

Parliament debated the deployment for four days, a debate dominated by the fears of further stoking sectarian violence in Pakistan where 20 percent of the population is Shia.

The parliamentary debate also became the target of intense lobbying.

Iran's foreign minister, Javad Zarif, met both Pakistani Prime Minister Prime Nawaz Sharif and the former chief of army staff, Raheel Sharif, as the debate took place.

The Iranians back the Houthis politically, and Saudi Arabia, the US and Australia all say they have supported them militarily as well.

The senior Houthi leaders have been trained by, and their paramilitary structures modelled on, Hezbollah, the Iran-backed Lebanese militia. Advisers from the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) have also been involved.
denied targeting the holy city.

Last year, state-affiliated media in Iran said the Houthis were using Iran-made Zelzal-3 surface-to-surface solid fuel missiles, although they insisted the weapon was produced "indigenously".

Sharif owes his life to the Saudis, who saved him from execution after a military coup which brought Pervez Musharraf to power in 1999.

However, the prime minister’s wish to repay a personal debt to the Saudis was not reciprocated by the Pakistan army.

Generals argued then that they were overstretched with campaigns against the Pakistani Taliban in the North West Tribal Areas.

Since then, however, senior military sources in Pakistan claim to have pushed the Taliban out of Swat valley and North Waziristan.

Parliament however is currently pursuing expanding trade links with Iran. Awaid Leghari, the chairman of the foreign affair’s committee of the National Assembly, recently met Ali Larijani, the speaker of the Iranian Majlis, and Alludin Boroujerdi, the chairman of Iran's foreign policy and security committee in the Islamic Consultative Assembly.

A parliamentary delegation from Islamabad is also due to visit Tehran in May. They will discuss re-opening three border markets, a projected gas pipeline and tourism.

Leghari told Pakistan's Dawn newspaper that both sides, he observed, were now feeling "internal pressures" to engage in a big way for mutual benefit.

"More pressure would have to be exerted from within the economies and people and media," he said.

The deployment would not be the first in relations between the two states. Mohammad Zia ul-Haq deployed an elite Pakistani armoured brigade to the kingdom at King Fahd's request after the Iranian revolution in 1980.

The brigade was deployed for a decade and some 40,000 soldiers served in it.

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/e...combat-troops-saudi-southern-border-248886071

Hi,

I had told you guys last month around this time---on my visit to pakistan---the generals had admitted that they had made a ' mistake ' in understanding the issue two years ago---.

That they were in error in not leading the strike force---" bauhut ghalti ho gai---samajh nahin aiyee "---if I could repeat the words---.

And that is pak military for you---a day late and a dollar short---in making the right tactical call.

That deal could have resulted in a 15---30 billion dollars check a year to take the lead---. This deal---would be like " peanuts " compared to that.

Plus a massive loss of jobs in the GCC and a massive loss of foreign exchange---.

100 Littar wi khayai---tay 100 ganday wi khayai---that is my pak army general command---.

 

[Max]

It is difficult now a days to figure out where Eeman is in Yemen, it is practically Yemenis fighting other Yemenis and GCC is supporting the legitimate government..When war was going on between South Yemen and North Yemen for decades where was Eeman North or South? it is difficult to know..

well everyone can interpret Hadith according to their liking.

"O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Shaam. O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Yemen." The people said, "O Messenger of Allaah, and our Najd." I think the third time the Prophet, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said, "There (in Najd) will occur earthquakes, trials and tribulations, and from there appears the Horn of Satan."

 

[Kambojaric]

Not sure how to feel how about this. It seems as If as though Pakistan will be dragged into the conflict.

Same. The Saudis and Iranis are involved in a heavy proxy war spreading over several fronts. We are already engaged in two major border conflicts (India in the east, and terrorists coming from Afghanistan in the west supported by our neighbours).
Whilst Saudi is a long term ally, the risk of our soldiers dying and as a consequence us developing an even more emotional involvement in a conflict that is not ours, is a real possibility. In such a case our forces will become too outstretched. Either the Saudis use their diplomatic channels with the Americans to convince them to act more strongly against TTP, BLA and other terrorist groups targeting Pakistan from Afghanistan, as this in turn will spare us precious manpower than can be allocated elsewhere. Otherwise this is a real risky move that I honestly cannot support, even if the Saudis are our long term allies.

 

[H!TchHiker]

LOL....Jana he tha to mana q kia tha.....And what did they get in return now ?100 payaz and 100 joto wali misssal yad arae..They should have negotiated a better deal earlier..

PAKISTAN SENDS COMBAT TROOPS TO SAUDI SOUTHERN BORDER


Sourced : Middle East Eye


The Pakistan army is sending a brigade of combat troops to shore up Saudi Arabia’s vulnerable southern border from reprisal attacks mounted by the Houthis in Yemen, according to senior security sources.

The brigade will be based in the south of the Kingdom, but will only be deployed inside its border, the sources told Middle East Eye. “It will not be used beyond Saudi borders,” one said.

It is the latest twist in a brutal and devastating two-year war, which has killed more than 10,000 people in Yemen, injured over 40,000 and brought the impoverished nation to the verge of famine.


Both sides have been accused of war crimes and starving civilians trapped in the carnage.


The war was launched by Saudi Arabia and its Arab coalition allies after the Houthis overran Sanaa, the Yemeni capital, and the southern port of Aden and ousted the Saudi-backed president, Abd Rabbuh Hadi.


Increasingly, the Houthis have been retaliating with cross-border missile strikes on targets deep inside the kingdom.


Last month the Houthis claimed to have hit a military camp near al-Mazahimiyah near Riyadh with what they called “a precision long-distance ballistic missile”. The Saudis denied the claim.


On 31 January 2017, a missile killed 80 soldiers on a base run jointly by the Saudis and Emiratis on Zugar island in the Red Sea, according to reports in Arabic media. The Saudis did not confirm nor deny the strike.


In October last a year a missile was shot down about 65km from Mecca, although the Houthis denied targeting the holy city.

The deployment of the Pakistani brigade follows a visit by General Qamar Javed Bajwa, the Pakistani Chief of Army Staff (COAS), to Saudi Arabia on a three-day official visit in December last year.


“COAS reiterated Pakistan’s commitment to the security and protection of the Holy Mosques and also the territorial integrity of the kingdom,” the Pakistani army said in a statement.


“Later, General Qamar Javed Bajwa met chief of general staff of Saudi Forces, General Abdul Rehman bin Saleh al-Bunyan, to discuss military to military relations, defence cooperation and regional security situation.


“Both leaders agreed to boost military cooperation and collaboration.”


The area of deployment for the Pakistani brigade is politically sensitive in Islamabad, because two years ago the parliament rejected a request by Saudi Arabia’s King Salman for Pakistan to join a “Sunni” coalition to fight the Houthis.


The Houthis, whose tribesmen mostly follow Zaidism, a variant of Shia Islam practised by a minority in northern Yemen, are backed by Iran, although the level of direct support provided by Tehran is disputed.


Parliament debated the deployment for four days, a debate dominated by the fears of further stoking sectarian violence in Pakistan where 20 percent of the population is Shia.


The parliamentary debate also became the target of intense lobbying.


Iran’s foreign minister, Javad Zarif, met both Pakistani Prime Minister Prime Nawaz Sharif and the former chief of army staff, Raheel Sharif, as the debate took place.


The Iranians back the Houthis politically, and Saudi Arabia, the US and Australia all say they have supported them militarily as well.


The senior Houthi leaders have been trained by, and their paramilitary structures modelled on, Hezbollah, the Iran-backed Lebanese militia. Advisers from the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) have also been involved.


Last year, state-affiliated media in Iran said the Houthis were using Iran-made Zelzal-3 surface-to-surface solid fuel missiles, although they insisted the weapon was produced “indigenously”.


Sharif owes his life to the Saudis, who saved him from execution after a military coup which brought Pervez Musharraf to power in 1999.


However, the prime minister’s wish to repay a personal debt to the Saudis was not reciprocated by the Pakistan army.


Generals argued then that they were overstretched with campaigns against the Pakistani Taliban in the North West Tribal Areas.


Since then, however, senior military sources in Pakistan claim to have pushed the Taliban out of Swat valley and North Waziristan.


Parliament however is currently pursuing expanding trade links with Iran. Awaid Leghari, the chairman of the foreign affair’s committee of the National Assembly, recently met Ali Larijani, the speaker of the Iranian Majlis, and Alludin Boroujerdi, the chairman of Iran’s foreign policy and security committee in the Islamic Consultative Assembly.


A parliamentary delegation from Islamabad is also due to visit Tehran in May. They will discuss re-opening three border markets, a projected gas pipeline and tourism.


Leghari told Pakistan’s Dawn newspaper that both sides, he observed, were now feeling “internal pressures” to engage in a big way for mutual benefit.


“More pressure would have to be exerted from within the economies and people and media,” he said.


The deployment would not be the first in relations between the two states. Mohammad Zia ul-Haq deployed an elite Pakistani armoured brigade to the kingdom at King Fahd’s request after the Iranian revolution in 1980.


The brigade was deployed for a decade and some 40,000 soldiers served in it.


http://blogs.plymouth.ac.uk/dcss/2017/03/13/pakistan-sends-combat-troops-to-saudi-southern-border/