Pakistan garment makers chase rivals in India and Bangladesh

[Sine Nomine]

Again, the lack electricity for our industries shows the pathetic and dismal performance of PPP & PML-N governments. Both of whom should be dismantled and abolished from Pakistan, PERMANENTLY!

Truth must be spoken,Pakistani economy has started breathing due to power plants which came under CPEC which did happen during PMLN.

 

[AsifIjaz]

The key now is to produce.. Trained manpower.. The human machines that churn out finished product one after another.
Recent decline in rupee value coupled with uninterrupted power supply is gonna be attractive provided we sell it properly.
The power supply will only get better from next yr onwards as kanup 1, hubco thar, kanup 2 and small wind power projects come online. We just need a few more masood textiles, crescent textile and similar units to start a chain reaction.

 

[Nasr]

Truth must be spoken,Pakistani economy has started breathing due to power plants which came under CPEC which did happen during PMLN.

I am sorry, but there is a far more important truth that needs to be spoken out loud ... that governments are SERVANTS of the people and they (government) ought act like it. Also, no amount of taking credit for CPEC can make PMLN escape the fact that it's leadership (Sharif brothers) was corrupt, looted and plundered the wealth of Pakistan for personal gains.

 

[JohnyD]

In major stores in UK i have seen garments made in India, BD, Cambodia and China...never seen made in PK....i think Cambodia and BD produces cheap but good quality stuff...made in India is slightly expensive, made in China is worst..

 

[Sine Nomine]

I am sorry, but there is a far more important truth that needs to be spoken out loud ... that governments are SERVANTS of the people and they (government) ought act like it. Also, no amount of taking credit for CPEC can make PMLN escape the fact that it's leadership (Sharif brothers) was corrupt, looted and plundered the wealth of Pakistan for personal gains.

I hope that's true and there are hidden stashes of cash about 100 billion USD which we would take from them.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Machines are not the problem
Its a separate industry
Not much potential in that!

Focus is on textile production not related machinery designing and engineering as that is a totally different field.

bro that's the point!

The machines will bring in more revenue, and with so many more garment makers around the world, they're now in higher demand! So instead of racing to the bottom against kids (literally) on garment stiching, we ought to design, develop, and manufacture the machines.

This will drive our exports across Asia and Africa and bring in a lot more revenue than textiles. Heck, it'll even cut the costs of our textiles by enabling local textile producers to get machinery in PKR instead of USD (plus PKR-driven maintenance and support).

You can also extend the underlying R&D for garment related machines into other manufacturing machines. If not the jig-level stuff, then certainly power management, circuitry, mechanics, etc.

 

[ps3linux]

I can vouch for the topic because I am in contact with two large export based units and arranging a large structured syndicate for one of them aimed at expansion and exports in the same area as mentioned in the topic of the thread. The second is in serious negotiation with two large brands in US, once the negotiation is successful they too will go in to a large expansion and thus another syndicate for us.

Its not going happen overnight that we will overtake Bangladesh or india for that matter but I was impressed to see the younger generation of one of these families know intricacies of business, qa/qc imports/exports leveraging vs equity injection. Asia's largest sock manufacturer is a Pakistani concern they got themselves listed on PSX couple months back they are known as (xxx) omitted the name deliberately, another very impressive personality.

Have faith and confidence in the perseverance of this nation, we'll get there.

 

[Pakistansdefender]

What Pakistan Need is Cheap and uninterrupted Power Supply. Electricity is much cheaper in other textile exporting Countries.

For your info . The textile sector is given a subcidie. That makes their gas and electricity cheaper then India and bangaldesh . So don't worry there .
It's time now them to wake up and adopt innovation and new technologies and capture markets .
Because you see government is asking access from the markets all over , and they get it too . But then it is the job of the industry to utilize these markets.access .

 

[Code_Geass]

For your info . The textile sector is given a subcidie. That makes their gas and electricity cheaper then India and bangaldesh . So don't worry there .
It's time now them to wake up and adopt innovation and new technologies and capture markets .
Because you see government is asking access from the markets all over , and they get it too . But then it is the job of the industry to utilize these markets.access .

story of the most industries in Pakistan they want help of government in every aspect and do not look for better ways to get things done themselves.

 

[ziaulislam]

What Pakistan Need is Cheap and uninterrupted Power Supply. Electricity is much cheaper in other textile exporting Countries.

pakistan is throwing in 5000MW of cheaper hydro just from tarbela dam during summer

unfortunately the CPEC power deals were hurundeously expensive, a crime done by PML N govt

problem is domestic theft, lack of spending in cheaper hydro and solar(Apart from 20 cents solar project , i mean whats the point in making energy from solar when its 5 x times expenisve)

 

[Arsalan]

bro that's the point!

The machines will bring in more revenue, and with so many more garment makers around the world, they're now in higher demand! So instead of racing to the bottom against kids (literally) on garment stiching, we ought to design, develop, and manufacture the machines.

This will drive our exports across Asia and Africa and bring in a lot more revenue than textiles. Heck, it'll even cut the costs of our textiles by enabling local textile producers to get machinery in PKR instead of USD (plus PKR-driven maintenance and support).

You can also extend the underlying R&D for garment related machines into other manufacturing machines. If not the jig-level stuff, then certainly power management, circuitry, mechanics, etc.

Sir, garment manufacturing machinery is actually the basic stitching machine you see at homes or at tailor. The cost of that machinery in any garment export business is negligible. Also please note that the market for garments in multiple times larger than the market of garment manufacturers argo the market for machines. Also we have technical knowledge and background in garment manufacturing while we know nothing about garment manufacturing machine manufacturing/engineering.

Keeping these things in mind, while i will be happy for any development toward starting an engineering industry geared toward textile machinery manufacturing, i feel that it is a totally separate field and cannot be compared or presented as a replacement of the actual textile industry that include textile manufacturing. What i mean to say is that Textile Manufacturing and Textile Machinery Manufacturing are two different fields and are not replacement of each other.

 

[ALi Rizwan]

For your info . The textile sector is given a subcidie. That makes their gas and electricity cheaper then India and bangaldesh . So don't worry there .

It's time now them to wake up and adopt innovation and new technologies and capture markets .

Because you see government is asking access from the markets all over , and they get it too . But then it is the job of the industry to utilize these markets.access .

For my info? Lol!

Have you ever visited any unit in that chain from RAW to Finish Product? Interacted with people their? Can you identify units on Google Map & share their Present status????

No we don't have Gas and in no way electricity is cheap not to forget not even reliable.

Its not that we don't have International Market but it got major hit because of lower cost from India & Bangladesh and others.

What new tech? are you suggesting every few year with throw old machinery and buy new one? its not like replacing washing Machine in Home. Its a massive setup and need large amount of capital.


Garment Unit itself is not dependent on Electricity but cost of producing apparel is high.


Only sector that need improvement in chain GINNING and Cotton Collection method from fields.

But issue here is not that Bangladesh is producing superior product instead their Cost is cheaper then us.

pakistan is throwing in 5000MW of cheaper hydro just from tarbela dam during summer

Indus River has huge potential but thanks to Traitors we have done nothing. Terbala Capacity is going down due silting we can produce more from that water by building KB DAM which is also another water Reservoir.

unfortunately the CPEC power deals were hurundeously expensive, a crime done by PML N govt

CPEC was a bad choice after industrial Boom in 2000 the logical step should have been Water Vision 2025. Once we have Cheap and surplus energy we could have effectively implemented CPEC.
We are building infrastructure that will probably not even cover operational cost & our economy is in no position to support such projects.

You forget to Add Raja Rental.

problem is domestic theft, lack of spending in cheaper hydro and solar(Apart from 20 cents solar project , i mean whats the point in making energy from solar when its 5 x times expenisve)

Domestic theft has gone down whats shocking is that after that Massive increase in their Salaries their performance is pathetic and some still allow theft for money.
Present govt. Want World Bank help for another turbine in Terbala although its capacity is going down.
But will not take their help for KB Dam which will not only provide additional power from Indus but will also provide more storage during Floods.

Industrailist has once advised PM intead of begging for DAM allow them to invest.
Although out Govt. has no problem in giving Mid-Size Hydrel project to foriegn companies.

Not Just Solar Even Wind farm is expensive. people forget to add NTDC and Power Supply Company Cost.
For Solar its more appropriate that those who can should invest in Tier-1 Solar Panel. in might take 5 Years but after that its all profit. Its Shameful that People can buy Furtuner but not Solar Panels.
Even some Industrial Unit has move toward Solar. whats surprising is that even those Units which need uninterrupted 24/7 Power for Couple of years and where Power Supply is worst then Major Cities and Industrial Zone because they are near small village or town have installed Solar.
Diamer Basha will take min 10 years once construction start. Means demand Increased and other dams Capacity reduced.

 

[prashantazazel]

In major stores in UK i have seen garments made in India, BD, Cambodia and China...never seen made in PK....i think Cambodia and BD produces cheap but good quality stuff...made in India is slightly expensive, made in China is worst..

Chinese are doing damn well now. I have some high end shorts and stuff like from China. Amazingly tailored. Superb design. Bought online, of course.

 

[Trumpcard]

In major stores in UK i have seen garments made in India, BD, Cambodia and China...never seen made in PK....i think Cambodia and BD produces cheap but good quality stuff...made in India is slightly expensive, made in China is worst..

Most of the Royal Enfield biking leather jackets including the ones sold in India are made in pakistan.

 

[JohnyD]

Chinese are doing damn well now. I have some high end shorts and stuff like from China. Amazingly tailored. Superb design. Bought online, of course.

Are you talking about UK/Europe?