Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[truthseeker2010]

Wanted to know what is the percentage of availabilities of pak fighter aircrafts at any given point of time. Hope it's not a silly question.

between 70 to 80%

 

[araz]

Well that's very high when more than 60 percent of your F16 don't have spares to fly.

And you are the keeper of our inventory?? Please prove how you have come to this wonderful decision.
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[truthseeker2010]

Well Jane defence website says that.

where?

 

[Naif al Hilali]

There will never be an advantage in numbers or even technology for PAF. The adversary has more buying power and will continue to field better hardware. However war is not JUST about better hardware. It is multi faceted and involves training and discipline of personnel. What we have continues to provide us a critical deterrent value which makes an incursion so expensive that the victory at the end would not be worth the effort.
We cannot and must not engage with India on numbers game. However we can only improve the quality of our personnel and armaments as they become available to us.
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@Khafee said:

https://defence.pk/threads/vixen-1000e-aesa-with-irst-showcased-at-ideas.462778/page-13#post-8978045

"Because someone gets very upset, and starts throwing tantrums and false flag ops, goodies come silently and via ambiguous notifications.:

 

[Dazzler]

Forget the 16s, for jf-17, its more than 90%.

 

[Khafee]

@Khafee said:

https://defence.pk/threads/vixen-1000e-aesa-with-irst-showcased-at-ideas.462778/page-13#post-8978045

"Because someone gets very upset, and starts throwing tantrums and false flag ops, goodies come silently and via ambiguous notifications.:

Don't believe me?

 

[Naif al Hilali]

Bismillah ir Rhman ar Raheem

No brother, just spreading your good word as I believe you, oscar, and bilalkhan777 would be the experts in these matters.

Sorry if it seemed otherwise.

Hofz u kum Allah

 

[Khafee]

Bismillah ir Rhman ar Raheem

No brother, just spreading your good word as I believe you, oscar, and bilalkhan777 would be the experts in these matters.

Sorry if it seemed otherwise.

Hofz u kum Allah

No need to apologize. It's ok. I will PM you as to why I said this.

 

[Raider 21]

 

[volatile]

Truly an underdog UAE Block 60 but on a given day will give run for money to every one .In Fact first ones to introduce AESA in the region ,correct me if im wrong

 

[Signalian]

SkyFlash A2A Missile carried on station 5L (door mounted pylon). SkyFlash had range of 45km and was discontinued in favour of AIM-120. It was derived from Aim-7.

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Aim-7 Sparrow carried on station 5R (door mounted pylon). Looks centre line in first glance. It also seems from pic that an A2A missile has been fired which could be an Aim-7 on station 5L..... guess work only.

 

[Naif al Hilali]

SkyFlash A2A Missile carried on station 5L (door mounted pylon). SkyFlash had range of 45km and was discontinued in favour of AIM-120. It was derived from Aim-7. View attachment 358668 .



Aim-7 Sparrow carried on station 5R (door mounted pylon). Looks centre line in first glance. It also seems from pic that an A2A missile has been fired which could be an Aim-7 on station 5L..... guess work only.View attachment 358669

 

[Signalian]

View attachment 358845

Good find, concern is using stations 5R and 5L.

It would be interesting if PAF has experimented using these stations for Aim-9 apart from pod installation. If Aim-7 launcher could fit on them then probably Aim-9 launchers could fit too. Lots of factors involved.

This would make F-16 capable of carrying 8 missiles instead of 6.

 

[Naif al Hilali]

Good find, concern is using stations 5R and 5L.

It would be interesting if PAF has experimented using these stations for Aim-9 apart from pod installation. If Aim-7 launcher could fit on them then probably Aim-9 launchers could fit too. Lots of factors involved.

This would make F-16 capable of carrying 8 missiles instead of 6.

Bismillah ir Rahman ar Raheem

Station 5L and 5R do not appear in the approved missile loadouts I have. I doubt the mission computer's current software will recognize missiles here even though the databuses are available. My understanding is that a four-missile load for PAF's Air Defense F-16s is probably the standard operational one and even the six-missile load would be the exceptional one during war-time.

Oscar, Kafee, and Bilal Khan 777 would know better.

 

[SQ8]

Good find, concern is using stations 5R and 5L.

It would be interesting if PAF has experimented using these stations for Aim-9 apart from pod installation. If Aim-7 launcher could fit on them then probably Aim-9 launchers could fit too. Lots of factors involved.

This would make F-16 capable of carrying 8 missiles instead of 6.

The Skyflash doors were found to interfere with flight characteristics along with pudding needless stress on the air-frame.

Every weapons has a flight profile after release as well which is also dependant upon the aerodynamics of the aircraft. in simple words, stores need to be able to separate from the aircraft safely 99% of the time and any chance of the following is avoided as best as possible.