Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[Windjammer]

Sniper XR on the bottom left...

what's that behind the Wing Commander? Maybe the DB-110?

Yea most likely and a LGB is also visible.

 

[Windjammer]

Just to confirm as to who was in charge of the Block-52 transition and conversion of No 5 Squadron.
There's a good chance that he may be appointed as the next Shahbaz Air Base Commander....and i have never visited Sindh before.

 

[elitepilot09]

I am asking a question???

Alright... Although I have my skepticism, I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are not Nishan.

But please explain to me how or why Pakistan would buy the used and abused Venezuelan F-16's OR why even they would be interested to sell? Do you understand that they are older than our very own A/B F-16's? Let me guess.. you want to MLU them too? Do you understand that Pakistan ordered just enough MLU kits for it's own F-16 fleet and the new falcons from Jordan? Just because Pakistna bought second-hand F-16s from Jordan, doesn't mean that we should start shopping around and buy everyone elses waste.

Before asking such a baseless question, have a meaningful thought and discussion in your mind... I guarantee you that your contributions will be more appreciated here.

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

^ Huh?? From Venezuela?? This looks like Nishan_101 in disguise...

Black eagle 90 you totaly sounds like nishan

Man im sick of these wishlist gang

Gentlemen please take a look in here https://defence.pk/threads/a-new-fake-a-c-every-month-and-same-old-wishes-every-day.270848/

 

[fatman17]

Pakistan Takes Delivery of First Five Royal Jordanian F-16 fighter jets
Pakistan Takes Delivery of First Five Royal Jordanian F-16 fighter jets

Pakistan Air Force (PAF) has received today its first batch of five Royal Jordanian F-16 fighter jets under a deal to purchase upto 13 F-16s fighter jets out.

First batch of Royal Jordanian F-16 AM/BM fighter jets arrived at the Mushaf Mir Airbase in Sargodha were inducted in the PAF fleet. Pakistan Air Force will induct an other eight Jordanian fighter jets to increase the F-16 total to 76. These fighter jets will serve PAF for another 20 years with almost 3,000 hours on average available to them for flying."

Read more: Pakistan Takes Delivery of First Five Royal Jordanian F-16 fighter jets | Pakistan Military Review

 

[fatman17]

PAF Fully Prepared for Operation against Taliban: Air Chief

PAF Fully Prepared for Operation against Taliban: Air Chief
Posted by: Humaima Malik April 28, 2014 0

Sargodha: Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafique Butt,Chief of the Air Staff Pakistan Air Force (PAF), has said that air force is fully prepared for military operation against Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP).

Speaking to presspersons on the occasion of the induction of the first batch of F-16 fighter jets purchased from Jordan here on Sunday, the air chief said that PAF is fully capable of coping with all the internal and external threats. He said that collateral damaged during operation is out of question as PAF fighter jets only hit specified target.

The first batch comprised five fighter jets 13 which propelled the tally of PAF F-16s to 71. PAF had signed contract with Jordan for 13 F-16s, the remaining will be delivered to Pakistan in months to come.

An imposing ceremony was held to induct these jets. Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafique was the chief guest on the occasion. The ceremony was also attended by Ambassador of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan to Pakistan Nawaf Khalifa Saraieh and other high ranking officers from PAF and Pakistan Army.

Air chief said that these aircraft will strengthen the defence of Pakistan. He said that PAF will continue to perform its duties as in the light of the directions of government of Pakistan.

He said that jets were in good condition as they had attained Mid-Life Update (MLU) and have capacity of providing service for another 20 years.

He said further said that due to financial constrains PAF was compelled to purchase used fighter aircrafts from Jordan.

F-16 Sqdns
no 5
no 11
no 9
no 19?

 

[krash]

F-16 Sqdns
no 5
no 11
no 9
no 19?

No. 19 is an OCU unit with with relatively new F-7Ps and FT-7s. I'm guessing the 16s are just temporarily stationed with it?

 

[fatman17]

Pakistan receives first five F-16s from Jordan
April 28, 2014 (by Asif Shamim) - The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) received the first 5 of 13 F-16s purchased from Jordan on Sunday at Mushaf Air Base, Pakistan. The ambassador of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan to Pakistan Nawaf Khalifa Saraieh and senior PAF and army officers also attended the arrival ceremony.



The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) received the first 5 of 13 F-16s purchased from Jordan on April 27, 2014 at Mushaf Air Base, Pakistan. The ambassador of the of Jordan Nawaf Khalifa Saraieh and senior PAF and army officers also attended the arrival ceremony. [Photographer unknown]
The batch of Ex Royal Jordanian F-16 AM/BM were flown by Pakistani pilots, directly from Jordan. With the addition of these new airframes (12 A models and one B model aircraft) the PAF will reach 76 F-16s in service. Lockheed Martin and the US government gave its blessing for the sale/purchase of the jets with contracts being signed back in 2013.

PAF officials declined to give any details of the amount involved in the deal but they claimed that it has been transparent and it would be made public next month just before the delivery of the remaining F-16s.

The airframes which are all in good condition as all had been updated to the Mid-Life Update (MLU) before they were purchased by the Jordanian government. Each jet is expected to provide service for another 20 years with almost 3,000 flying hours life on average available per airframe.

Reiterating their commitment to face any challenge confronting Pakistan, Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafiq Butt has said that introduction of new F-16 fighter jets in the PAF fleet would further enhance its efficiency to effectively handle the internal and external threats.

No. 19 is an OCU unit with with relatively new F-7Ps and FT-7s. I'm guessing the 16s are just temporarily stationed with it?

my bad - they are with the CCS sqdn.

 

[Najam Khan]

PAF officials declined to give any details of the amount involved in the deal but they claimed that it has been transparent and it would be made public next month just before the delivery of the remaining F-16s.

The airframes which are all in good condition as all had been updated to the Mid-Life Update (MLU) before they were purchased by the Jordanian government. Each jet is expected to provide service for another 20 years with almost 3,000 flying hours life on average available per airframe.

Means no MLU planned for these ex-RJAF a/c.

No. 19 is an OCU unit with with relatively new F-7Ps and FT-7s. I'm guessing the 16s are just temporarily stationed with it?

No.19 Sqn would be 4th F-16 Sqn, hopefully by end of next month. It shall be relocated to Mushaf.

 

[fatman17]

Pakistan gets five F-16s from Jordan
April 28, 2014 RECORDER REPORT

Pakistan Air Force (PAF) on Sunday inducted the first batch of multi-role air defence capable, F-16 fighter aircraft, purchased from Royal Jordanian Air Force, into its fleet here at Mushaf Airbase. Chief of Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafique Butt was the chief guest at the arrival ceremony. Speaking on the occasion, the Chief of Air Staff said that Pakistan Air Force was fully capable to meet any internal or external challenges.

Expressing his pleasure over induction of first batch of F-16 aircraft into PAF, he said the government and three services acknowledged the importance of air power for today's modern warfare.

Tahir Rafique Butt said that Jordan was a brotherly and friendly country which provided these aircraft on a very nominal cost.

Responding to a question he said, PAF always delivered 100 percent striking with precision and accuracy to avoid collateral damage.

He informed that the second batch of F-16 fighter aircraft from Jordan, would reach shortly.

He said the deal to purchase 13 aircraft from Jordan was finalised in February 2013. The aircraft were flown by Pakistani pilots, directly from Jordan. Pakistani Mirage and F-16 aircraft escorted the F-16 fighter jets when they entered into country's airspace.

The pilots were welcomed and presented bouquet by their children on their arrival at the airbase.

The F-16 will be included in No 19 Squadron which remained under the command of CAS, Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafique Butt from July 1991 to October 1993.

Students of PAF Base Mushaf School presented a national song on the occasion.

The ceremony was attended by Jordan Ambassador to Pakistan and high-ranking officials of Pakistan Air Force and Army.

Earlier on his arrival, the Chief of Air Staff was received by Air Officer Commanding Central Air Command, Air Vice Marshal Mujahid Anwar Khan at the airbase.

Associated Press of Pakistan, 2014

 

[Battle Axe]

Means no MLU planned for these ex-RJAF a/c.


No.19 Sqn would be 4th F-16 Sqn, hopefully by end of next month. It shall be relocated to Mushaf.

Lifts hearts! Wish to see a 5th Sqn soon and total strength going to 100.

 

[fatman17]

Update on ex-Jordanian F-16 Deliveries to Pakistan AF
Posted on: April 29th, 2014

Three of the five ex-Jordanian F-16s delivered to the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) on April 27 arrive at PAF Base Mushaf-Sargodha accompanied by two PAF Mirages. PAF

UPDATING OUR previous report on AFD regarding the delivery of the first five ex-Royal Jordanian Air Force (RJAF) F-16A/Bs to the Pakistan Air Force (PAF), a few more details are now available. It had originally been reported that the PAF acquisition of 13 ex-RJAF aircraft was to comprise 12 F-16As and one F-16B.

However, the five aircraft that arrived at PAF Base Mushaf-Sargodha on April 27 are now known to have comprised three F-16As and two F-16Bs, indicating that the split between F-16As and F-16Bs must have changed.

Four of the five aircraft that arrived have now been identified from the photograph of their arrival released by the PAF. Two of the F-16As are 14732 and 14736, which still carry their ex-RJAF serials, 220 and 225, respectively, on their noses. The two F-16Bs are 14626 and 14627, the latter also carrying ex-RJAF serial 235, while the previous identity of the other is not clear on the image, but could possibly be 234. The PAF serial of the third F-16A is not visible on the photograph and its ex-RJAF serial is indistinct, but could be 222 or 223.

The remaining ex-RJAF aircraft are scheduled for delivery to the PAF ‘very soon’, according to the official PAF press release. As previously reported, they will be operated by 19 Squadron ‘Sherdils’, which was officially re-formed at Mushaf as an F-16 unit on April 27. AFD-Dave Allport

Chief of the Air Staff of the Pakistan Air Force (PAF), Air Chief Marshal Rahur Rafique Butt, along with His Excellency Nawaf Khalifa Saraieh, Jordanian Ambassador to Pakistan, plus various other dignitaries and the PAF pilots who flew the aircraft in from Jordan, pose for a group photo in front of the five ex-EJAF F-16A/Bs on April 27 following their arrival at Mushaf. PAF

 

[fatman17]

Contracts & Key Events
2012 – 2014
Pakistan buys 13 more F-16A/B Block 15s from Jordan;


Jordanian F-16A/B ADFs
April 29/14: Jordanian deliveries. The World Tribune:
“Pakistani sources said five aircraft arrived and were deployed by the Pakistan Air Force on April 27…. Diplomatic sources said… potential suppliers included Egypt, Jordan and Turkey. In his address, [PAF commander Marshal Tahir Rafique] Butt said… the fighters, [now] housed at the Air Force base in Sargodha, were in good condition.”

That base is about 150 miles due south of Islamabad, in the Punjab region. Sources: The World Tribune, “Jordan exports surplus F-16s to Pakistan”.

Feb 19/14: +13 Jordanian. Pakistani media report that the government has inked a deal with Jordan for 12 used F-16As and 1 F-16B:

“With this, the strength of PAF F-16s will reach 76…. The deal… has been authenticated by the manufacturing company and the US government has also given its nod for the sale/purchase of the planes. Well-placed defence sources told The News here the other day that the purchased aircraft were in good condition…. have been modified into Air Defence Fighters (ADF) versions. The Ogden Air Logistics Centre performed structural upgrades to extend the aircraft life from the designed 4,000 to 8,000 hours flying time as part of the programme. They also modified the aircraft engine bay for the upgraded Pratt and Whitney F100-220E engine”

The RJAF does fly F-16 MLUs bought second-hand from Belgium and the Netherlands, but this set being sold is from the 33-plane Peace Falcon I/II purchases of F-16 ADFs in 1997 and 2003. The F-16 ADF variant is actually the F-16 Block 15OCU, which added the more reliable F100-PW-220 turbofan, structural strengthening, an enlarged HUD, and provisions for the radar-guided AIM-120 AMRAAM missile. F-16 ADFs retain the AN/APG-66 radar, which has been supplanted by APG-68 models in subsequent variants and in Pakistan’s upgraded fighters. ADFs have some precision ground attack capability using the AGM-65 Maverick missile, but would be well behind Pakistan’s 18 new Block 52s, or the PAF’s roughly 40 existing Block 15 fighters that were upgraded to a similar standard under the programs above.

Barring upgrades, the best use for F-16 ADFs is as interceptor and air superiority fighters. Recall, however, that the DSCA request for MLU & Falcon STAR kits had a maximum of 60 aircraft, and that these kits wouldn’t be needed for the new F-16C/D Block 52s. Pakistan could order 13 more upgrade kits for these aircraft, and still be within its allotted FMS total.

The deal leaves the Royal Jordanian Air Force with 43-46 front-line F-16AM/BM MLU Block 20 fighters, and 15-18 F-16A/B Block 15 ADFs, of 79 purchased. Not only do they make some money with this sale, they also cut down on the number of RJAF F-16 ADFs that will need expensive mid-life upgrades. At least 2 of the F-16 ADFs have been lost in accidents, and their 5th and most recent F-16 accident took place on Jan 29/14 . Sources: Pakistan’s The News International, “PAF acquires F-16s from Jordan”.​

 

[Windjammer]

No.19 Sqn would be 4th F-16 Sqn, hopefully by end of next month. It shall be relocated to Mushaf.

All present at the ceremony supporting caps with No19 Squadrons logo ''War Hawks'' is a big give away.

 

[fatman17]

All present at the ceremony supporting caps with No19 Squadrons logo ''War Hawks'' is a big give away.

its a celebrated sqn during 65 war with raid on pathankot led by nosey haider.