Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[Taha Samad]

Pakistan should now concentrate on buying F-22 raptor and Sukhoi Su 30 MKI (Russian).

sure just don't forget to send the check and call obama and putin

 

[air marshal]

Second Batch of three F-16C/D block 52+ fighter aircraft arrived at PAF Base, Shahbaz (Jacobabad).

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Wonderful Pictures but , I think our national interest does requires 50 F16 Fighters so hopefully we can excercise our options on another 20

But I am happy with stuff JF17 program and F16 Upgrading , if we can just complete the avionics for the JF17 thunder it would be great achivement

 

[monitor]

Pakistan should now concentrate on buying F-22 raptor and Sukhoi Su 30 MKI (Russian).

brother i think you didn't sleep well last night .take a shower and have a cup of tea and then google about f-22/su-30 .

 

[Hasnain2009]

Su-30MKI is Su-30 varient which is customized for India only. Other varients are also very costly and on top of that Russia is not willing to sell any of them to PAF. Maximum PAF can get J-11 varients from China, if they can pay their price and later maintain such heavy air superiority ACs.

What do u mean? Do u know F-16block 52+ has almost double price as compared to twin engined heavy SU-30MKI.

 

[umair86]

What do u mean? Do u know F-16block 52+ has almost double price as compared to twin engined heavy SU-30MKI.

Newest order for 40 Su-30MKI costs $102M each some $20M more than F-16s we are getting and it doesn't include repair and spare parts and training initially SU-30MKI was $36.33M but that was in 1998.

 

[Hasnain2009]

Newest order for 40 Su-30MKI costs $102M each some $20M more than F-16s we are getting and it doesn't include repair and spare parts and training initially SU-30MKI was $36.33M but that was in 1998.

I should remind you that pakistan ordered F-16 blk 52+ before 6-9 years, and at that time the price of it was $80m+ and SU-30mki was $40mn and we also know that US gives us these F-16s at low prices.

 

[Indian-Devil]

I should remind you that pakistan ordered F-16 blk 52+ before 6-9 years, and at that time the price of it was $80m+ and SU-30mki was $40mn and we also know that US gives us these F-16s at low prices.

Cost of Su-30Mki was reduced once India started producing it in India with ToT. You can see the cost of Su-30Mki now when India placed order for new 40 ACs that costs around 102million dollors, although that includes life cycle cost also.
Block 52 was not $80m 6-9 yrs back as mentioned by you. Israel got F-16 Sufa arond $70m 3-4 yrs back, which is way ahead of what PAF got for block 52.

 

[Hasnain2009]

Cost of Su-30Mki was reduced once India started producing it in India with ToT. You can see the cost of Su-30Mki now when India placed order for new 40 ACs that costs around 102million dollors, although that includes life cycle cost also.
Block 52 was not $80m 6-9 yrs back as mentioned by you. Israel got F-16 Sufa arond $70m 3-4 yrs back, which is way ahead of what PAF got for block 52.

Pakistan to Buy only 18 F-16s
April 23, 2008

Pakistan has decided to halve the number of new F-16C/D block 52 jets it's buying from the United States due to financial constraints.

Pakistan had earlier agreed to buy 36 of these aircraft at a total cost of $5.1 billion, which included associated weapons, spares and upgrading of an earlier fleet purchased in the 1980s.

Pakistan had originally agreed to purchase 36 F-16C/D block 52 at a total cost of $3 billion & additional $650 million for associated weapons.

The decision to reduce the order by half would also halve the cost of buying new F-16s and that of the weapons associated with them.

However the $1.3 billion Mid-Life Update (MLU) modification of the existing F-16A/B block 15 fleet purchased back in the 1980's remains unaffected. Engine modifications and purchasing some new equipment will cost Pakistan additional $151 million. When upgraded the modified jets will be fully equipped with weapons and facilities that come with an F-16 Block 52 aircraft.

Defence experts told that media stories saying the new F-16s will not have nuclear capabilities did not make sense. The source pointed out that when the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) received French Mirages they did not have the capability to carry nuclear weapons. However Pakistan was able to modify them to do so.

The United States will, however, have the right to conduct frequent inspections and inventory checking.

Pakistan’s request for new planes and for the modification for its earlier fleet was put on hold after the October 2005 earthquake.

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$3bn / 36 = $83.33mn per aircraft.

 

[S.U.R.B.]

Some cool updates on the F-16 instrument panel. Hope the old BLK-15 get these.But i'm not much optimistic.

Video
Video - Raytheon Targets F-16 with Instrument Upgrades - WSJ.com

 

[TOPGUN]

Pakistan to Buy only 18 F-16s
April 23, 2008

Pakistan has decided to halve the number of new F-16C/D block 52 jets it's buying from the United States due to financial constraints.

Pakistan had earlier agreed to buy 36 of these aircraft at a total cost of $5.1 billion, which included associated weapons, spares and upgrading of an earlier fleet purchased in the 1980s.

Pakistan had originally agreed to purchase 36 F-16C/D block 52 at a total cost of $3 billion & additional $650 million for associated weapons.

The decision to reduce the order by half would also halve the cost of buying new F-16s and that of the weapons associated with them.

However the $1.3 billion Mid-Life Update (MLU) modification of the existing F-16A/B block 15 fleet purchased back in the 1980's remains unaffected. Engine modifications and purchasing some new equipment will cost Pakistan additional $151 million. When upgraded the modified jets will be fully equipped with weapons and facilities that come with an F-16 Block 52 aircraft.

Defence experts told that media stories saying the new F-16s will not have nuclear capabilities did not make sense. The source pointed out that when the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) received French Mirages they did not have the capability to carry nuclear weapons. However Pakistan was able to modify them to do so.

The United States will, however, have the right to conduct frequent inspections and inventory checking.

Pakistan’s request for new planes and for the modification for its earlier fleet was put on hold after the October 2005 earthquake.

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$3bn / 36 = $83.33mn per aircraft.

So if the source is correct... PAF won't be buying 18 more vipers in a way its good and in a way its not but as a old saying states things always happen for the best as long as we still keep to mlu for the old vipers its should be alright and we shall look towrds fc-20's and thunders

 

[Whiplash]

Pakistan should now concentrate on buying F-22 raptor and Sukhoi Su 30 MKI (Russian).

Do you understand the 'I' in MKI stands for India? Russia would never sell pakistan a fighter plane. Especially not the most advanced flanker!

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

Originally Posted by farzansaeed07
Pakistan should now concentrate on buying F-22 raptor and Sukhoi Su 30 MKI (Russian).

Do you understand the 'I' in MKI stands for India? Russia would never sell pakistan a fighter plane. Especially not the most advanced flanker!

this is what u people do! one Indian come up with Pakistani identity at PDF and write something nonsense and set up a field for Indian trolling.

 

[Hasnain2009]

Do you understand the 'I' in MKI stands for India? Russia would never sell pakistan a fighter plane. Especially not the most advanced flanker!

Is it more advanced than F-16 block 52+??

 

[fatman17]

Pakistan to Buy only 18 F-16s
April 23, 2008

Pakistan has decided to halve the number of new F-16C/D block 52 jets it's buying from the United States due to financial constraints.

Pakistan had earlier agreed to buy 36 of these aircraft at a total cost of $5.1 billion, which included associated weapons, spares and upgrading of an earlier fleet purchased in the 1980s.

Pakistan had originally agreed to purchase 36 F-16C/D block 52 at a total cost of $3 billion & additional $650 million for associated weapons.

The decision to reduce the order by half would also halve the cost of buying new F-16s and that of the weapons associated with them.

However the $1.3 billion Mid-Life Update (MLU) modification of the existing F-16A/B block 15 fleet purchased back in the 1980's remains unaffected. Engine modifications and purchasing some new equipment will cost Pakistan additional $151 million. When upgraded the modified jets will be fully equipped with weapons and facilities that come with an F-16 Block 52 aircraft.

Defence experts told that media stories saying the new F-16s will not have nuclear capabilities did not make sense. The source pointed out that when the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) received French Mirages they did not have the capability to carry nuclear weapons. However Pakistan was able to modify them to do so.

The United States will, however, have the right to conduct frequent inspections and inventory checking.

Pakistan’s request for new planes and for the modification for its earlier fleet was put on hold after the October 2005 earthquake.

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$3bn / 36 = $83.33mn per aircraft.

how do u come to this math? - not correct IMO