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Things will get better soon.ap pesy de deen work usa khud ker le ga
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things are better now . nothing is to be worry pakistan has successfully inducted 150+ 4th gen fighters .
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If I had known about this incident before would have surely discussed with him......Unfortunately he passed away in a car accident....
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what happened was two F-16s were on hot persuit near the Afghan border and were asked to abort and return back to base. One of them didn't listen and the other was trying to persuade him. Finally he gave up and was leaving so decided to go ahead and turn away ahead of the first F-16, to show he was leaving. As he pulled forward of the first F-16, the latter let loose an AAM which was aimed at the retreating Soviet aircraft, but in that inopportune moment, was dead center of the other F-16.
He just had enough time to eject. Later he was so upset he gave the other fellow some litther. But I think it was both of their fault. Anyways, the fellow who did the own goal had a long and illustrious career in the PAF.
He just had enough time to eject. Later he was so upset he gave the other fellow some litther. But I think it was both of their fault. Anyways, the fellow who did the own goal had a long and illustrious career in the PAF.
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if this is true, i hope this isnt the discipline situation currently ..
I am surprised BOTH had a long career
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Both aircraft of 14 Sqn
F-16A, flown by Squadron Leader Amjad Javed was the one who fired AIM9.
Flight Lieutenant Shahid Sikandar Khan was the victim, flying F16A Block 15S.
Both aircraft of 14 Sqn
F-16A, flown by Squadron Leader Amjad Javed was the one who fired AIM9.
Flight Lieutenant Shahid Sikandar Khan was the victim, flying F16A Block 15S.
Shahid Sikandar
Narration of incident, as narrated by Sir Shahid Sikander, the victim pilot
On 29th April 1987, Wg Cdr Amjad Javed and Flight Lieutenant Shahid Sikandar, both from No.14 Squadron flying F-16As, were scheduled to fly an escort mission to the north, and on the same day they both escorted a PAF C-130 and a PIA Fokker to Chitral. On the way back the pair were vectored to Miranshah---2 adversary formations (4 aircraf each) were violating PAF airspace. They were told to engage, both aircraft were below JOKER. Initially vectored to 270, bandits were at 27,000 feet heading 090. The F-16As were at 6,000 feet at 600 knots, both zoomed to fire face shots with AIM-9Ls. Bandits turned north. The pair were in the TAC spread on No.2's right, bandits went saw the F-16s on their tails, No.2 switched lock to last bandit(MiG-23) which was at 4.1nm, negative ROC and called the leader. Leader didnt hear the call or misheard it, trying to radar lock to the rear left bandit, which in mistake was No.2, misidentified this locked aircraft was his own No.2. Leader switched from AIM-9L to AIM-9P, and hit No.2 as it went into a dive hitting the right wing. No.2 ejected around 29,000 feet almost 10 nm in Afghan territory. A search and rescue team picked up No.2 around 7 hours later, and No.2 was back at Kamra the same night, and was back flying F-16s 4 days later. However the issue was such a bizarre one, Leader unfortunately lost his job, and No.2 was posted out to PAF Academy(FIS/Sherdils 89, before coming back to No.14 in 1990 again on F-16s). 85726 F-16A was the aircraft that shot 85720 F-16A in this case of fratricide.
As narrated by Behram Shahid, his son....
@TsAr
Both aircraft of 14 Sqn
F-16A, flown by Squadron Leader Amjad Javed was the one who fired AIM9.
Flight Lieutenant Shahid Sikandar Khan was the victim, flying F16A Block 15S.
Shahid Sikandar
Narration of incident, as narrated by Sir Shahid Sikander, the victim pilot
On 29th April 1987, Wg Cdr Amjad Javed and Flight Lieutenant Shahid Sikandar, both from No.14 Squadron flying F-16As, were scheduled to fly an escort mission to the north, and on the same day they both escorted a PAF C-130 and a PIA Fokker to Chitral. On the way back the pair were vectored to Miranshah---2 adversary formations (4 aircraf each) were violating PAF airspace. They were told to engage, both aircraft were below JOKER. Initially vectored to 270, bandits were at 27,000 feet heading 090. The F-16As were at 6,000 feet at 600 knots, both zoomed to fire face shots with AIM-9Ls. Bandits turned north. The pair were in the TAC spread on No.2's right, bandits went saw the F-16s on their tails, No.2 switched lock to last bandit(MiG-23) which was at 4.1nm, negative ROC and called the leader. Leader didnt hear the call or misheard it, trying to radar lock to the rear left bandit, which in mistake was No.2, misidentified this locked aircraft was his own No.2. Leader switched from AIM-9L to AIM-9P, and hit No.2 as it went into a dive hitting the right wing. No.2 ejected around 29,000 feet almost 10 nm in Afghan territory. A search and rescue team picked up No.2 around 7 hours later, and No.2 was back at Kamra the same night, and was back flying F-16s 4 days later. However the issue was such a bizarre one, Leader unfortunately lost his job, and No.2 was posted out to PAF Academy(FIS/Sherdils 89, before coming back to No.14 in 1990 again on F-16s). 85726 F-16A was the aircraft that shot 85720 F-16A in this case of fratricide.
As narrated by Behram Shahid, his son....
@TsAr
Just to clarify in advance.. The term JOKER used in the above narration...
Joker (fuel) is slang for a pre-briefed fuel state above Bingo at which separation/bugout/event termination should begin.
Bingo is a critical fuel state, the minimum fuel required to reach back home.
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This is Anatolian Eagle 2006 Exercise, Konya AFB, Turkey. Not Bholari. Notice the dutch F-16s in the back
Also, we never flock our F-16s like that since its a high-value asset.
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Lolx, was about to post the same....
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Yes unfortunately didn't fly again in PAF. He flew for over 25 years with PIA. The one who ejected is also flying these days on fast-Jet platforms
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Both aircraft of 14 Sqn
F-16A, flown by Squadron Leader Amjad Javed was the one who fired AIM9.
Flight Lieutenant Shahid Sikandar Khan was the victim, flying F16A Block 15S.
Shahid Sikandar
Narration of incident, as narrated by Sir Shahid Sikander, the victim pilot
On 29th April 1987, Wg Cdr Amjad Javed and Flight Lieutenant Shahid Sikandar, both from No.14 Squadron flying F-16As, were scheduled to fly an escort mission to the north, and on the same day they both escorted a PAF C-130 and a PIA Fokker to Chitral. On the way back the pair were vectored to Miranshah---2 adversary formations (4 aircraf each) were violating PAF airspace. They were told to engage, both aircraft were below JOKER. Initially vectored to 270, bandits were at 27,000 feet heading 090. The F-16As were at 6,000 feet at 600 knots, both zoomed to fire face shots with AIM-9Ls. Bandits turned north. The pair were in the TAC spread on No.2's right, bandits went saw the F-16s on their tails, No.2 switched lock to last bandit(MiG-23) which was at 4.1nm, negative ROC and called the leader. Leader didnt hear the call or misheard it, trying to radar lock to the rear left bandit, which in mistake was No.2, misidentified this locked aircraft was his own No.2. Leader switched from AIM-9L to AIM-9P, and hit No.2 as it went into a dive hitting the right wing. No.2 ejected around 29,000 feet almost 10 nm in Afghan territory. A search and rescue team picked up No.2 around 7 hours later, and No.2 was back at Kamra the same night, and was back flying F-16s 4 days later. However the issue was such a bizarre one, Leader unfortunately lost his job, and No.2 was posted out to PAF Academy(FIS/Sherdils 89, before coming back to No.14 in 1990 again on F-16s). 85726 F-16A was the aircraft that shot 85720 F-16A in this case of fratricide.
As narrated by Behram Shahid, his son....
@TsAr
Just to clarify in advance.. The term JOKER used in the above narration...
Joker (fuel) is slang for a pre-briefed fuel state above Bingo at which separation/bugout/event termination should begin.
Bingo is a critical fuel state, the minimum fuel required to reach back home.
This whole incident was quoted by B. Shahid, @behram at PDF... In June 2010...
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/paf-f-16-milestone-pilots.57655/page-2#post-918286
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/paf-f-16-milestone-pilots.57655/page-3#post-940231
@Knuckles reminds me of someone.....
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