jupiter2007
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NO, they havent, they blocked the Jordanian f16s as per our own minister
That was before, almost 3 years ago, things are different now.
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NO, they havent, they blocked the Jordanian f16s as per our own minister
We need some diplomatic approach all we need NOC that's all these F16s are dirt cheap should get as many as we can.That was before, almost 3 years ago, things are different now.
They may all need upgrading and the last package we got cost us 20 million a pop. Labour was not included so add that as well. Now even with that it is a nice bargain but whereas the US may allow us to buy these planes they wont issue the upgrade pack or create hurdles by raising prices.We need some diplomatic approach all we need NOC that's all these F16s are dirt cheap should get as many as we can.
If there were any ethics in arms sale the industry wiuld have collapsed. Its all about money.US has no issues selling anything to Pakistan as long as we pay from our pocket. The problem with getting used F-16s from outside the US is that we will need Congressional approval. That however, should not be too difficult if we can work out a way to get them upgraded from Lockheed which will mean more business for US companies. I have seen too many negative comments here but we tend to forget that only recently United Technologies was awarded a contract for supporting PAF F-16s. That should address some of our concerns.
Whether PAF has the means to pay for any such purchase is a different story.
I think by sitting on approved CSF and other unpaid bills and then additionally asking for money is where the topic of contention is. If accounts can be cleared it would help in crystallizing where we stand. On 2 occasions US has offered us armaments based on part payment from CSF and then backed down. This in its own rights is an indication of their ill intention. PAF has been stung before so wont get anything by upfront payment. Plus our dire finances do not help and US currently is in no mood to help us out.US has no issues selling anything to Pakistan as long as we pay from our pocket. The problem with getting used F-16s from outside the US is that we will need Congressional approval. That however, should not be too difficult if we can work out a way to get them upgraded from Lockheed which will mean more business for US companies. I have seen too many negative comments here but we tend to forget that only recently United Technologies was awarded a contract for supporting PAF F-16s. That should address some of our concerns.
Whether PAF has the means to pay for any such purchase is a different story.
Do we know whether they are MLUed or not? It might sway PAFs decision on whether to buy them or not. However I think the US in its current mood will not allow us and this is where the problem lies. If the approval was forthcoming we could have gotten th ex Jordanian 16s which are in a much better condition.The only affordable way to get the Norwegian F-16 jets is to get them with spares & not waste money on upgrading them. Use them for flying hours and put them in storage when the useful life goes below 200 or so hours. I am guessing that spares would be more than enough for these 28 units and may contribute towards the rest of the fleet.
All are MLU..issue is simple..USA will not allow arms sale..and pakistan doesnt has any leverage ..pakistan wants stability in afghanistan more than USA will to leave afghanistan..Do we know whether they are MLUed or not? It might sway PAFs decision on whether to buy them or not. However I think the US in its current mood will not allow us and this is where the problem lies. If the approval was forthcoming we could have gotten th ex Jordanian 16s which are in a much better condition.
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agreed, the mood in US is inwards does not matter which ally it is; even Isreali intel and leadership is concerned about TiT's stability and already considers it not dependable.Do we know whether they are MLUed or not? It might sway PAFs decision on whether to buy them or not. However I think the US in its current mood will not allow us and this is where the problem lies. If the approval was forthcoming we could have gotten th ex Jordanian 16s which are in a much better condition.
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Do we know whether they are MLUed or not? It might sway PAFs decision on whether to buy them or not. However I think the US in its current mood will not allow us and this is where the problem lies. If the approval was forthcoming we could have gotten th ex Jordanian 16s which are in a much better condition.
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US has no issues selling anything to Pakistan as long as we pay from our pocket. The problem with getting used F-16s from outside the US is that we will need Congressional approval. That however, should not be too difficult if we can work out a way to get them upgraded from Lockheed which will mean more business for US companies. I have seen too many negative comments here but we tend to forget that only recently United Technologies was awarded a contract for supporting PAF F-16s. That should address some of our concerns.
Whether PAF has the means to pay for any such purchase is a different story.