Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[CHI RULES]

why not? they will be now standard production model



rafale will also come in batches so it will take few years from initial receiving, its current production is 11-12 a/c per year. So don't worry it wont tilt the balance.

provided that we considerably improve JF17 and induction of any other platform with latest gadgets like AESA and IRST.( I still doubt that USA will offer Pak F16Vs in near future)

 

[truthseeker2010]

provided that we considerably improve JF17 and induction of any other platform with latest gadgets like AESA and IRST.( I still doubt that USA will offer Pak F16Vs in near future)

no matter how much jf-17 is improved, it will still have limitations, PAF will always have requirement for medium fighter, J-10 or F-16 equivalent.

 

[Manticore]

The $40 million spending was authorized under the FY 2016 omnibus budget.

Included in the year-end spending bill is $40 million is appropriated for active electronically scanned array radar (AESA) systems to replace the existing 1970s technology. The new radar system will help to better detect the evolving threat picture, identify new potential threats that current technology cannot, and allow greater capabilities to the Air National Guard F-16 fleet for national security efforts. F-16 aircraft that perform the Aerospace Control Alert (ACA) mission are slated to receive the upgrades.

LoBiondo had secured language in the Fiscal Year 2016 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) that authorized the AESA radar upgrades. The NDAA was signed into law by President Obama in November.

Also included in the bill is $10.2 million in federal funding for the 177th Fighter Wing’s new Fuel Cell & Corrosion Hangar facility that will replace the two current inadequate buildings in a combined structure. The new facility would increase production capability while providing the ability to handle 5th generation F-16s. LoBiondo previously announced the funding in May when it first passed the House.

LoBiondo Applauds House Passage of Funding for Critical Radar Updates for F-16s at 177th Fighter Wing | Congressman Frank LoBiondo

Alert 5 » 177th Fighter Wing’s F-16s getting AESA radars - Military Aviation News

 

[GoldenRatio1618]

PAF why not do act like indian airfoce doing they wait for 5, 8 years save funds and go for big deals and come with tot offers now see they went for rafael 126 fighters and result came offers of lockheed martin local assembly line with tot, saab offering local assembly with complete tot and full control same dassault is also offering in such a way but PAF only get assembly from china of jf-17s whith 200 fighters orders PAF this time go with big numbers and bring tot with full control and in future this will help PAC cabalities to enhace and learn more and more and in this way in future PAC will be capabale of developing indegenious fighters with new desings with advance technologies.

 

[Paksanity]

PAF why not do act like indian airfoce doing they wait for 5, 8 years save funds and go for big deals and come with tot offers now see they went for rafael 126 fighters and result came offers of lockheed martin local assembly line with tot, saab offering local assembly with complete tot and full control same dassault is also offering in such a way but PAF only get assembly from china of jf-17s whith 200 fighters orders PAF this time go with big numbers and bring tot with full control and in future this will help PAC cabalities to enhace and learn more and more and in this way in future PAC will be capabale of developing indegenious fighters with new desings with advance technologies.

There is no such thing as complete ToT. It is just playing with words. Nobody shoots in his foot and kills his own business. Critical technology and manufacturing process is always kept secret. That is the real fact behind such offers.

 

[fatman17]

Today in F-16 history

23 Dec 1981
Pakistan orders 6 F-16s (Peace Gate I) becoming the 9th customer.

23 Dec 1981
Pakistan orders 34 F-16s (Peace Gate II).

 

[untitled]

What is the significance of the term Peace Gate? The Egyptians got their F16s under the Peace Pharaoh program. One gets that. But what is Peace Gate?

 

[SQ8]

What is the significance of the term Peace Gate? The Egyptians got their F16s under the peace pharaoh program. One gets that. But what is Peace gate?

Pakistan is the gateway to many countries.

 

[untitled]

Pakistan is the gateway to many countries.

Or maybe it is a reference to the Khyber Pass that Pakistan was supposed to block during the 80s?

 

[krash]

What is the significance of the term Peace Gate? The Egyptians got their F16s under the Peace Pharaoh program. One gets that. But what is Peace Gate?

These program names are just traditional. "Peace" has always been the traditional prefix while the suffix has varied. Subsequent deals with a specific country just have Roman numerals added to original program name.
The language of the suffix at times is a link to the buyer country, like the Peace A'Sama A'Safiya ("Clear Skies") for Oman or the Peace Fenghuang (Peace Phoenix) for Taiwan, obviously the connections here are with the language used rather than the name. Sometimes the suffix is by itself the link to the buyer country, e.g, Peace Caesar (Italy) and Peace Crown (Oman). But many times the suffix is just arbitrary, e.g. Peace Bridge (South Korea), Peace Delta (Venezuela), Peace Atlantis (Portugal), Peace Sky (Poland), Peace Gate and Peace Drive (Pakistan), etc. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the Egyptian program named Peace Vector?

Interestingly, the name 'Peace Gate' was ditched and 'Peace Drive' adopted for the Pakistani deals after the 90s to thwart the proverbial bad juju, given the history associated with the deals under the former name.

 

[untitled]

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the Egyptian program named Peace Vector?

Yup you are right. Peace Pharaoh was the deal under which the EAF purchased ex American F-4s

 

[Paksanity]

Pakistan in talks with US to procure latest F-16 jets: Air chief - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Huh! We are looking for more F-16s and Air Chief says latest. Only F-16V comes to mind.

 

[The Eagle]

i think these are the same 8 F-16s that Pakistan was in talks with USA after US Congress approval and then there was a thread with hundreds of posts about the same. Though sometimes, non-understood words costs us bandwidth on PDF (hehehe). joke apart. However whatever is coming, treat it addition and its good for inventory.

Pakistan Zindabad

Seniors opinion is requested and would be valuable indeed.

 

[mingle]

i think these are the same 8 F-16s that Pakistan was in talks with USA after US Congress approval and then there was a thread with hundreds of posts about the same. Though sometimes, non-understood words costs us bandwidth on PDF (hehehe). joke apart. However whatever is coming, treat it addition and its good for inventory.

Pakistan Zindabad

Seniors opinion is requested and would be valuable indeed.

Could be old & new ones but we need more new ones in some good numbers .

 

[khanasifm]

F16 Service life !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

F-16 Durability Testing: 25,000 Hours and Counting

F-16 Durability Testing: 25,000 Hours and Counting · Lockheed Martin