Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[Ali_Baba]

Sometimes it seems as F-16 was designed for the PAF.

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> Agree - was perfect for PAF - it was and is a shame that it was never allowed to achieve its full potential in PAF service.

 

[Trailer23]

When i first saw this image, i thought it's PS....and it must be of USAF SR-71 pilot but then realised that it was a PAF Viper Driver geared up for a special delivery.

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[baqai]

When i first saw this image, i thought it's PS....and it must be of USAF SR-71 pilot but then realised that it was a PAF Viper Driver geared up for a special delivery.

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i think during maritime missions or missions in area of snow it is a norm to wear this high visibility suit to make it easier to spot in case of an eject

 

[mingle]

That is true, lets see is PAF over with F16 saga or still remains behind it in coming years

I doubt now with induction of J10C they will spend that Money to induct more J10s I believe F16 blk 52 will be last westren jet in PAF

 

[Bratva]

So it got me thinking when @PanzerKiel said about Gambler-1 Wing Commander Hassan Siddique

Cmon man, i cant be part of spooks....I was just highlighting what Gambler 1 did....for which he was penalized.

Yes, it will probably effect. Thats how it works in our region.

Then @Trailer23 Posted the below thing

Griffins OC - Wg Cdr. Usman Niazi escorted the J-10's himself.

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So Wing Commander Hassan Siddique is not OC No.5 , No.9 or No.11 . An ace with SU-30 kill under his belt who passed CCS and was made WC isn't made OC of any famed F-16 squadrons ?

So his offence was of that magnitude he is being passed for OC post and it appears he will be forced to take retirement from either Wing Commander rank or Group Captain rank (if he gets lucky) or Air Commodore ( If Bengali Baba helps him in promotion). He will not be progressing to AVM or AM rank like Mig Killer or The H-4 Shooter who both are Group Captain right now

 

[Trailer23]

So Wing Commander Hassan Siddique is not OC No.5 , No.9 or No.11 . An ace with SU-30 kill under his belt who passed CCS and was made WC isn't made OC of any famed F-16 squadrons ?

So his offence was of that magnitude he is being passed for OC post and it appears he will be forced to take retirement from either Wing Commander rank or Group Captain rank (if he gets lucky) or Air Commodore ( If Bengali Baba helps him in promotion). He will not be progressing to AVM or AM rank like Mig Killer or The H-4 Shooter who both are Group Captain right now

I'll get back to you in the morning...

 

[Raider 21]

> Agree - was perfect for PAF - it was and is a shame that it was never allowed to achieve its full potential in PAF service.

It did a lot and did indeed achieve its full potential for what it has been provided with. The country is safer because of its presence in the region.

 

[blain2]

So it got me thinking when @PanzerKiel said about Gambler-1 Wing Commander Hassan Siddique





Then @Trailer23 Posted the below thing




So Wing Commander Hassan Siddique is not OC No.5 , No.9 or No.11 . An ace with SU-30 kill under his belt who passed CCS and was made WC isn't made OC of any famed F-16 squadrons ?

So his offence was of that magnitude he is being passed for OC post and it appears he will be forced to take retirement from either Wing Commander rank or Group Captain rank (if he gets lucky) or Air Commodore ( If Bengali Baba helps him in promotion). He will not be progressing to AVM or AM rank like Mig Killer or The H-4 Shooter who both are Group Captain right now

One call out. He is not an "ace". In the fighter pilot world, I believe the word "ace" carries a very specific meaning alluding to a pilot having shot down at least "5" adversary aircraft.

 

[Scorpiooo]

I doubt now with induction of J10C they will spend that Money to induct more J10s I believe F16 blk 52 will be last westren jet in PAF

Seems like that, but we know PAF love for F16, they cant afford new ones but EDA with V updates or V update for existing block 52 alway on card in limited numbers.
Becuz J10 are replacing role of mirages and F16 will replaced with any 5th generation jet so till that time they want there F16 to up to power indian rafales

 

[Zibago]

F16 would be last US fighter in PAF time to move on

That is true and I also think that unless there is some real thaw in relationship between US and Pakistan I dont think US would be interested in even selling us used F-16

 

[Scorpiooo]

That is true and I also think that unless there is some real thaw in relationship between US and Pakistan I dont think US would be interested in even selling us used F-16

They will , otherwise they will loose the strings with thay they control our F16 use will be eventually lost, we will totally move to eastern

 

[Zibago]

They will , otherwise they will loose the strings with thay they control our F16 use will be eventually lost, we will totally move to eastern

They refused to even allow sale of downgraded Iraqi F-16 that the Iraqis have a troubling in keeping airworthy

 

[Scorpiooo]

So it got me thinking when @PanzerKiel said about Gambler-1 Wing Commander Hassan Siddique





Then @Trailer23 Posted the below thing




So Wing Commander Hassan Siddique is not OC No.5 , No.9 or No.11 . An ace with SU-30 kill under his belt who passed CCS and was made WC isn't made OC of any famed F-16 squadrons ?

So his offence was of that magnitude he is being passed for OC post and it appears he will be forced to take retirement from either Wing Commander rank or Group Captain rank (if he gets lucky) or Air Commodore ( If Bengali Baba helps him in promotion). He will not be progressing to AVM or AM rank like Mig Killer or The H-4 Shooter who both are Group Captain right now

What is normal designation for fighter pilots in PAF they got retired

They refused to even allow sale of downgraded Iraqi F-16 that the Iraqis have a troubling in keeping airworthy

BcuZ we still relay on F16s as our front line fighter,
J10 just inducted in ground attack role will take few year for actual operationalize and training,

Once PAF start moving them to front line role them bell for American will ring, right now they know they still have strings in there hands

 

[Scorpiooo]

we dont know Iraqi were actually interested to sell them (there F16)

Suppose if they were is cost was affordable for PAF , bcuz whatever we getting from china is on subsidised cost and easy long term loans

 

[ziaulislam]

Seems like that, but we know PAF love for F16, they cant afford new ones but EDA with V updates or V update for existing block 52 alway on card in limited numbers.
Becuz J10 are replacing role of mirages and F16 will replaced with any 5th generation jet so till that time they want there F16 to up to power indian rafales

Nope..i doubt pakistan will even be allowed to get bullet proof helmets ..cost is not practical

USA will offer new ones but not used ones
New ones have operational poltical limitations and will cost twice that of j10 with just aim9
Or at best aim120c5
So in their right mind will get it