Pakistan Defence budget in last 5 years seen declining

[Screaming Skull]

Pakistan defence budget in last 5 years seen declining​

Wednesday, April 08, 2009

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan defence budget expenditures during the last five years is seen on the decline.

Available government data show that a sum of Rs194 billion was allocated from a total budget outlay of Rs902 billion in 2004-05, while in 2008-09 out of total budget outlay of Rs210 billion, a sum of Rs296 billion was allocated for defence. During the last five years, the defence budget ratio to government expenditures declined by 7 percent, as it worked out to only 15 percent declining from 22 percent of the total expenditures.

Former Finance Advisor, Dr. Salman Shah said that the cut in defence expenditures aimed at more cost-effective utilization of the fund. He said that the defence budget didn’t include armed forces retired employees pension funds, as it was not part of the defence budget.

International sources said that US thus far provided $10 billion to Pakistan for defence purposes, while the former finance advisor insisted that $10 billion was not the US defence aid, it was actually paid on account of the war on terror expenses incurred by Pakistan, which in fact quite higher than the amount paid.

Prime minister’s finance advisor, Shaukat Tareen said that the allocation of defence budget would be increased in the next national budget in view of the ongoing tensions at the borders.

Pakistan defence budget in last 5 years seen declining - GEO.tv

 

[PAFAce]

Pakistan defence budget in last 5 years seen declining

Reason: Advantages of indigenization, combined with a global downturn and increase in unconventional conflicts.

Notice, the defence budget is lower, yet, PAF, PN and PA are going ahead with planned upgrades (admittedly, a little slow, but that is global right now). This has to mean that indigenization, whatever little we have accomplished so far, is paying off.

Has India benefited from indigenization yet? I don't know about the entire military, but the IAF hasn't, because their two most valuable assets are still Russian and from an unknown foreign country (Su-30MKI + MMRCA).

 

[spsk]

Pakistan Military always gets huge funding from US so I think this may not be affecting them much.

 

[PeacefulIndian]

I think IMF loan has a lot to do with this. I think Pakistan has over $10 billion loan from IMF. The conditions that come with this loan are inherently a bitter pill. Involves a reasonable cut in defence spendings.

 

[rubyjackass]

A lot of stuff being acquierd is by deferred payment. Especially from China. So budget means nothing now.

 

[Contrarian]

Reason: Advantages of indigenization, combined with a global downturn and increase in unconventional conflicts.

Notice, the defence budget is lower, yet, PAF, PN and PA are going ahead with planned upgrades (admittedly, a little slow, but that is global right now). This has to mean that indigenization, whatever little we have accomplished so far, is paying off.

There is no indigenization for PAF or PN mate. JF-17 is as much indegenous as the Su-30MKI. Pakistan is starting from assembling them and will build them in the future when PAC gets competency with the plane. From planes, to missiles, to EW pods, everything is bought.
PN, the less mentioned the better. As regards to PA, i really dont know much so i will not say anything.

The reason PAF and PN are modernizing is because these plans had been laid 10 years back and sufficient funding allocated at the required times, and apart from the MAJOR REASON is soft loans from China and US.

Plus, you have no idea of how much more PAF and PN actually initially wanted. They had REALLY ambitious plans. A lot of them have been put on hold for lack of funds.

Has India benefited from indigenization yet? I don't know about the entire military, but the IAF hasn't, because their two most valuable assets are still Russian and from an unknown foreign country (Su-30MKI + MMRCA).

Su-30MKI is more indegenous than the JF-17 will be in a long time. This is apart from the fact that we build them! The Mission Computers, RWR's etc are all conceptualized and DESIGNED in India, not just built. Infact the Indian MC is significantly better than the Russian one's. Infact the Su-30MKM incorporates the Indian MC among a few other items.

 

[AkhandBharat]

International sources said that US thus far provided $10 billion to Pakistan for defence purposes, while the former finance advisor insisted that $10 billion was not the US defence aid, it was actually paid on account of the war on terror expenses incurred by Pakistan, which in fact quite higher than the amount paid.

What did pakistan spend $10 billion on in the war on terror? Its more of a tribute for being an ally in the war on terror. The obama administration is in fact frustrated with the convoluted involvement of state elements with the radicals the US is fighting against.

 

[Patriot]

What did pakistan spend $10 billion on in the war on terror? Its more of a tribute for being an ally in the war on terror. The obama administration is in fact frustrated with the convoluted involvement of state elements with the radicals the US is fighting against.

Well - I can assure you Pakistan would be more then happy to not get this aid and just finish WOT once for all.This will actually improve Pakistan's economy.

 

[AliFarooq]

What did pakistan spend $10 billion on in the war on terror? Its more of a tribute for being an ally in the war on terror. The obama administration is in fact frustrated with the convoluted involvement of state elements with the radicals the US is fighting against.

pakistan has lost way more than 10 billion due to wot.

 

[hj786]

The obama administration is in fact frustrated with the convoluted involvement of state elements with the radicals the US is fighting against.

The same state elements giving info to the US (confirmed not only by Pakistani intelligence officials, but by US officials) which is being used for drone airstrikes that are killing more enemy leaders (and causing less civilian casualties) than ever before?

 

[PAFAce]

There is no indigenization for PAF or PN mate. JF-17 is as much indegenous as the Su-30MKI.

And that is where I stopped reading.

I hope you don't mind me skipping the rest of your post and presenting any counter-arguments. I need to keep garbage out of my head and cram the empty space with school stuff.

Exams are here, see. In the word's of Shakespeare, "Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more."

 

[BATMAN]

It is no surprise that Pakistan's defence budget is declining.
At the same time the figure of last five years is also not true.
I think in 2006 Pakistan's defence spending was more than previous years.
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/pakistans-defense-budget-rises-155-0659/

Su-30MKI is more indegenous than the JF-17

And yet you failed to produce a light combat aircraft?

 

[Contrarian]

And that is where I stopped reading.

I hope you don't mind me skipping the rest of your post and presenting any counter-arguments. I need to keep garbage out of my head and cram the empty space with school stuff.

Exams are here, see. In the word's of Shakespeare, "Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more."

I couldnt care less what or where you decide to stop reading. Do what you want- But understand the difference between producing something from prints and designing it. Thats where you will learn what and how Pakistan is involved in the JF-17 project. When you do that, find up on the industries present in Pakistan which would be sorely needed for Pakistan to aid the designing and development of JF-17.

 

[notorious_eagle]

Oh calm down people, a lot of our budget is also classified so it never gets revealed.

 

[BATMAN]

I couldnt care less what or where you decide to stop reading. Do what you want- But understand the difference between producing something from prints and designing it. Thats where you will learn what and how Pakistan is involved in the JF-17 project. When you do that, find up on the industries present in Pakistan which would be sorely needed for Pakistan to aid the designing and development of JF-17.

Industries are production houses, where design development mainly needs talented man power and Pakistan have it in abundance.
For example, Japan and Switzerland does not produce everything they design & develop.
design development does not need huge industrial infrastructure, where as to setup production units huge investments are required to build the infrastructure.

JF-17 has been developed but it is not game over because now start its production, which will be next challenge for the responsible.
Whereas I have been noticing india has always copied Pakistan.
I will not go into the product by product logic but let’s see what changes you make in HAL-Teja to make it a practical LCA.