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Pakistan Considers Building Gas Pipeline to China


http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=2...id=agFWKJ36isgg


By Wang Ying and Stephen Engle

April 23 (Bloomberg) -- Pakistan is considering a plan to build a natural gas pipeline from the Arabian Sea to China, Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz said, a sign of deepening relations between the two countries in trade, investment and energy cooperation.

Aziz said Pakistan has a ``unique'' relationship with China that will help his country develop. ``Chinese companies are looking at Pakistan and our infrastructure needs: energy, roads, highways, airports, ports,'' Aziz said in an interview on April 21 during China's annual Boao forum.

China is also looking to secure energy sources for its booming economy. The two countries agreed a year ago to cooperate on energy, including the construction of an oil refinery and a storage facility in Pakistan's coastal areas to help China gain access to oil and gas from Central Asia and the Middle East. China is helping Pakistan build its third port at Gwadar in Baluchistan.

``The pipeline can bring gas to Pakistan and then to China, which will avoid going around the Malacca Strait,'' Aziz said.

Pakistan and India are negotiating the rates for buying and distributing gas through a separate pipeline from Iran to South Asia, Aziz said.

``We are going to build energy pipelines in the region and meet our energy needs through the most efficient way,'' he said. ``Our national interest dictates that we create more options and opportunities for energy flow into Pakistan.''

Aziz invited companies in China, Pakistan's biggest trading partner after the U.S., to invest in the nation and signed a free-trade agreement in November.

Banking Investments

In March, China Mobile Communications Corp., the world's biggest mobile-phone carrier by users, invested $700 million in Pakistan after buying Paktel Ltd., Pakistan's oldest mobile-phone carrier.

Pakistan has asked China's two biggest lenders, Bank of China and the Industrial & Commercial Bank of China, to start operating in the country. ``We think banking is an important link which will allow the two countries more investment flows and trade flows,'' Aziz said.

National Bank of Pakistan, the country's largest by assets, is seeking a partner from the Middle East to set up a bank or financial company in China next year, President Syed Ali Raza said in an interview in Karachi on April 16.

``Given our international strategy to straddle South Asia, Central Asia and the Middle East, China will be an important addition to this footprint,'' said Raza, 57. ``The Middle East and China have surplus capital and Pakistan has the need for infrastructure investment. We want to make that connection by having a presence in China.''

`Need New Markets'

China is a particularly rich potential investor, Aziz said. ``They're sitting on over a trillion dollars of reserves -- they need to look at new markets to invest.''

``Any country like Pakistan, which is a developing country, needs to attract foreign savings to grow,'' he said. ``Whenever we open bids for these projects, Chinese companies are the most competitive.''

The economy is expanding at more than 7 percent a year and foreign direct investments in Pakistan will exceed $6 billion this year, Aziz said.

Pakistan's inflation will reach between 7 percent and 8 percent this year, exceeding the official target, Aziz said. The government has raised interest rates to rein in inflation, he said.



Restrictions on India


``We want to bring it down below 7 percent, to the 6 to 7 percent range, which we believe is more sustainable, more acceptable to the economy,'' Aziz said. The country needs high economic growth rates, however, and ``that's a tightrope we have to walk, and we're walking it fairly well.''

Pakistan will maintain a tax policy that's in favor of investment, he said. Investment and trade restrictions still apply to rival India, but they can be gradually lowered if relations between the two countries improve, he said.

Aziz said the ``trust deficit'' between the two nations was diminishing through dialogue and peace talks.

``We have a history of military conflicts with India,'' he said. ``Pakistan is a peaceful country. We feel all disputes and issues should be resolved through dialogue. Military solutions don't work.''

Regarding neighbor Afghanistan's struggle with the Taliban, Aziz admitted that Taliban members cross the border of Pakistan's tribal regions. ``It's a porous border -- people come back and forth,'' he said. ``We will not allow our territory to be used as a safe haven. Afghanistan is the country that needs to establish control over its territory.''

To contact the reporters on this story: Wang Ying in Beijing at ywang30@bloomberg.net ; Stephen Engle in Hong Kong at Sengle1@bloomberg.net .

Last Updated: April 22, 2007 23:01 EDT
 
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well i guess this was said before as part of a gwadar deal, right?
 
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Good idea, an IPC instead of IPI.
Ditch India and invest more in Sino-Pak friendship. :D
 
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Monday, April 23, 2007

Pakistan’s trans-regional hub pipedream

Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz has spent two days in the Hainan province of China attending a conference on New Approaches and New Ideas at a place rivalling Switzerland’s Davos. The Boao Forum for Asia (BFA), as opposed to the World Economic Forum, was founded in 2001, and challenges its invitees to think of new ways to advance trade and commerce at the global level. The world responded by sending 1300 participants to Boao this year. Among the 600 wealthiest businessmen present was Bill Gates of Microsoft.

Pakistan’s prime minister is a good communicator and shines at conferences and seminars. Speaking as chairman on a special session on “Pakistan-Trans-regional Hub, linking Asia to the Middle East and Beyond”, he said Pakistan was open to investment and could serve as a trans-regional hub in transportation, trade and energy for the Middle East, China and other regional countries, offering lucrative incentives, competitiveness and low-cost of operations. He presented an elegant scenario depicting the coming together of three remarkable factors needed for economic take-off. He said South Asia was rich in human capital, the Middle East in capital and Central Asia in energy, adding that Pakistan, owing to its location, was a natural linkage. Had Pakistan done anything to realise the status of this trans-regional hub? He said Pakistan already had a trade corridor with China which was being extended and linked to the national highways of the country. With improved transportation, trade was sure to follow. Pakistan was also going to be an energy transit country too exporting gas to energy-deficient countries. So Pakistan is rearing to take-off?

The prime minister said that investment from the Middle East was coming “in a big way” ($6 billion expected soon) into the country and was focusing on power-generation, tourism, real estate development and hotel industry. About extremism, he said it needed to be tackled under a security dimension, “but it was better to win hearts and minds of people”. Denial of rights, justice, poverty and deprivation caused it. He did not mention that extremism existed in all societies but was held in check by them through effective executive action.

Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz knows that Pakistan can be a transit country only because of India. Its billion people-strong market attracts the energy suppliers of Central Asia and Iran. But when Mr Aziz talked about India, he said things that could not have inspired many investors. The prime minister said “Pakistan was negotiating with India on several issues to resolve its differences and following their resolution, progress can be made in the trade sector”. He said Pakistan was “otherwise open” and there were no restrictions on investment “where it can be made”.

At the last SAARC summit that Mr Aziz attended at New Delhi, he had heard the Indian prime minister say that while the South Asian Free Trade Area (SAFTA) remained stymied, India’s bilateral agreements with all its neighbours except Pakistan would come into force by the end of 2007. Also, that after receiving the Most Favoured Nation status from India, Pakistan had not reciprocated. If there was any intent on the part of Pakistan to use trade as leverage, it has failed because there has been no progress on the core dispute, except the Baglihar Dam case which Pakistan has lost in World Bank arbitration.

Like all the economic spokespersons of the government, Mr Aziz also mentioned the great “demographic dividend” from a “large population under the age of 25 years” which was waiting for Pakistan. But he did not mention that Pakistan suffers from a yawning “skill deficit” that is so far funneling the “demographic dividend” into the extremist seminaries which then take over territories from the government and enforce their own writ there.

Pakistan has been a “transit hub” of all kinds of terrorism which bothered China too for a time. Imports have included terrorists from the Arab world and Central Asia. Add to these domestic factories of extremism where “value” is “added” to youths from as far away as London before they go back home and blow up the city’s underground railway system. Why is Pakistan holding back on using trade to offset this trend? *

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007\04\23\story_23-4-2007_pg3_1
 
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Pakistan Considers Building Gas Pipeline to China

By Wang Ying and Stephen Engle

April 23 (Bloomberg) -- Pakistan is considering a plan to build a natural gas pipeline from the Arabian Sea to China, Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz said, a sign of deepening relations between the two countries in trade, investment and energy cooperation.

Aziz said Pakistan has a ``unique'' relationship with China that will help his country develop. ``Chinese companies are looking at Pakistan and our infrastructure needs: energy, roads, highways, airports, ports,'' Aziz said in an interview on April 21 during China's annual Boao forum.

China is also looking to secure energy sources for its booming economy. The two countries agreed a year ago to cooperate on energy, including the construction of an oil refinery and a storage facility in Pakistan's coastal areas to help China gain access to oil and gas from Central Asia and the Middle East. China is helping Pakistan build its third port at Gwadar in Baluchistan.

``The pipeline can bring gas to Pakistan and then to China, which will avoid going around the Malacca Strait,'' Aziz said.

Pakistan and India are negotiating the rates for buying and distributing gas through a separate pipeline from Iran to South Asia, Aziz said.

``We are going to build energy pipelines in the region and meet our energy needs through the most efficient way,'' he said. ``Our national interest dictates that we create more options and opportunities for energy flow into Pakistan.''

Aziz invited companies in China, Pakistan's biggest trading partner after the U.S., to invest in the nation and signed a free-trade agreement in November.

Banking Investments

In March, China Mobile Communications Corp., the world's biggest mobile-phone carrier by users, invested $700 million in Pakistan after buying Paktel Ltd., Pakistan's oldest mobile-phone carrier.

Pakistan has asked China's two biggest lenders, Bank of China and the Industrial & Commercial Bank of China, to start operating in the country. ``We think banking is an important link which will allow the two countries more investment flows and trade flows,'' Aziz said.

National Bank of Pakistan, the country's largest by assets, is seeking a partner from the Middle East to set up a bank or financial company in China next year, President Syed Ali Raza said in an interview in Karachi on April 16.

``Given our international strategy to straddle South Asia, Central Asia and the Middle East, China will be an important addition to this footprint,'' said Raza, 57. ``The Middle East and China have surplus capital and Pakistan has the need for infrastructure investment. We want to make that connection by having a presence in China.''

`Need New Markets'

China is a particularly rich potential investor, Aziz said. ``They're sitting on over a trillion dollars of reserves -- they need to look at new markets to invest.''

``Any country like Pakistan, which is a developing country, needs to attract foreign savings to grow,'' he said. ``Whenever we open bids for these projects, Chinese companies are the most competitive.''

The economy is expanding at more than 7 percent a year and foreign direct investments in Pakistan will exceed $6 billion this year, Aziz said.

Pakistan's inflation will reach between 7 percent and 8 percent this year, exceeding the official target, Aziz said. The government has raised interest rates to rein in inflation, he said.

Restrictions on India

``We want to bring it down below 7 percent, to the 6 to 7 percent range, which we believe is more sustainable, more acceptable to the economy,'' Aziz said. The country needs high economic growth rates, however, and ``that's a tightrope we have to walk, and we're walking it fairly well.''

Pakistan will maintain a tax policy that's in favor of investment, he said. Investment and trade restrictions still apply to rival India, but they can be gradually lowered if relations between the two countries improve, he said.

Aziz said the ``trust deficit'' between the two nations was diminishing through dialogue and peace talks.

``We have a history of military conflicts with India,'' he said. ``Pakistan is a peaceful country. We feel all disputes and issues should be resolved through dialogue. Military solutions don't work.''

Regarding neighbor Afghanistan's struggle with the Taliban, Aziz admitted that Taliban members cross the border of Pakistan's tribal regions. ``It's a porous border -- people come back and forth,'' he said. ``We will not allow our territory to be used as a safe haven. Afghanistan is the country that needs to establish control over its territory.''

To contact the reporters on this story: Wang Ying in Beijing at ywang30@bloomberg.net ; Stephen Engle in Hong Kong at Sengle1@bloomberg.net .

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=agFWKJ36isgg
 
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anyway I guess it will be difficult to maintain the pipeline.
 
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anyway I guess it will be difficult to maintain the pipeline.

Yep, but with modern technology anything can be done.
You wouldn't have dreamt of building the Three Gorgeous Dam two decades ago, but its there now. :)
 
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Yep, but with modern technology anything can be done.
You wouldn't have dreamt of building the Three Gorgeous Dam two decades ago, but its there now. :)

It's definitely a good idea, but I guess the question is security. Should those who against the pipe project come to vandalize it, it is very hard to protect due to its length, sort of Iraq story.
 
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anyway I guess it will be difficult to maintain the pipeline.
Why?
Would it because of technical reasons? geographical reasons ? or political resons?
 
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It's definitely a good idea, but I guess the question is security. Should those who against the pipe project come to vandalize it, it is very hard to protect due to its length, sort of Iraq story.

Why can't it be underground? Iraq has old infrastruture of pipelines if i am not wrong that was vulernable.
 
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Its not feasible to build it underground due extra costs and maintenance problems that will arrise.

Just imagine how often you'll have to dig it up to get the Pipeline PIG's in and out. Thats the reason pipelines running through Alaska, quite compareable with Pakistan's Northern area's, are build above ground on the surface.
 
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Then the problem remains like Iraq however not that bad. People who are opposing it for no reason then must be bought down.
 
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What Iraq-like problems are you referring to webby?
Please elaborate.
 
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Refer to gpit's post. I actually too have no idea that such problem exists.
 
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FYI, China is already discussing building a pipe line from Siberea to Pacific ocean.
I guess it has more to do with commercial feasability than else.
 
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