Pakistan conducted another successful test fire of indigenously developed Submarine Launched Cruise

[Dalit]

How can it be second strike capability when the best that Babur SLCM can do is carry a small tactical nuclear warhead?? I mean it is not big enough to carry a strategic warhead so what's the point exactly?

We probably need much larger SLCM/SLBM with MIRV capability and range in excess of 3000 km's to cover all of India, even from international waters.

To understand how Pakistani engineers go about testing and producing their missiles you just have to look at the past. Longer range of the same variant will be tested iteratively.

Subsonic cruises are easier to intercept than supersonics. (Detection is another story.)

A subsonic cruise missile has its advantages, which are manoeuvrability, payload and stealth.
But this manoeuvrability is unlike the ballistic case which can prevent interception.
The stealth factor is also greatly reduced in the case of a short range SLCM against an advanced navy. There are no mountains in the ocean.

So, a short range subsonic SLCM of an old design poses no threat against our anti-missile systems and dedicated submarine killers in air and water.

That must be your bedtime story... Must make you sleep well.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Sorry, but with the Poseidons and Kamortas and Baraks in our arsenal, a subsonic old-fashioned cruise missile poses no threat to us.

You need a SLBM.

O chutiye, the entire developed west is working on “old fashioned sub sonic missiles” and not dumb super sonic yakhonts.

And Ballistic missiles are much easier to intercept than terrain hugging CMs.

 

[war&peace]

Subsonic cruises are easier to intercept than supersonics. (Detection is another story.)

A subsonic cruise missile has its advantages, which are manoeuvrability, payload and stealth.
But this manoeuvrability is unlike the ballistic case which can prevent interception.
The stealth factor is also greatly reduced in the case of a short range SLCM against an advanced navy. There are no mountains in the ocean.

So, a short range subsonic SLCM of an old design poses no threat against our anti-missile systems and dedicated submarine killers in air and water

Your Gangadashiyet is oozing here... Why your country is developing a subsonic nirbhoy after buying Russian made supersonic krooj mijjal?

 

[Dalit]

O chutiye, the entire developed west is working on “old fashioned sub sonic missiles” and not dumb super sonic yakhonts.

And Ballistic missiles are much easier to intercept than terrain hugging CMs.

This Indian whore is in pain. Let him cry rivers. I am enjoying it.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Subsonic cruises are easier to intercept than supersonics. (Detection is another story.)

A subsonic cruise missile has its advantages, which are manoeuvrability, payload and stealth.
But this manoeuvrability is unlike the ballistic case (if possible) which can prevent interception.
The stealth factor is also greatly reduced in the case of a short range SLCM against an advanced navy. There are no mountains in the ocean.

So, a short range subsonic SLCM of an old design poses no threat against our anti-missile systems and dedicated submarine killers in air and water.

P.S; You are still fukin struggling with an “old fashioned sub-sonic CMs nirbhay”... so much for your fukin rants.

This Indian whore is in pain. Let him cry rivers. I am enjoying it.

BABUR SLCM is too painful to take for our enemies;

It’s big,red (not pointy) and hits their “spot” real hard.

 

[war&peace]

This Indian whore is in pain. Let him cry rivers. I am enjoying it.

I must say a very cheap one...nobody wants IT even for free...

 

[KapitaanAli]

I just listed the advantages of a subsonic cruise missile and explained why it won't help Babur in its SLCM avatar.
And you're still asking why we're developing Nirbhay!
Because of those advantages, geniuses!
And also subsonic is economical.

That's why BrahMos is our SLCM tested and waiting for P75I.

(Nirbhay will be even harder to detect than these cruise design btw. Because of its submerged intake. And yet, we'll induct BrahMos SLCM.)

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I just listed the advantages of a subsonic cruise missile and explained why it won't help Babur in its SLCM avatar.
And you're still asking why we're developing Nirbhay!
Because of those advantages, geniuses!
And also subsonic is economical.

That's why BrahMos is our SLCM tested and waiting for P75I.

Stfu, yakhont is already cheaper.. even countries like Syria,Vietnam etc operate it... estimated to be around 2 million a pop.

And so called “SLCM” L mera.. you turd, Yakhont already had different launch versions.. what did you do? Beg Russians for “assembling”.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Mate, not necessary to troll on every thread. It's not the strike rather your comment that does not make any sense. Go study why every major nuclear power has achieved 2nd strike capability.

Bro, Indians are not fools that they will strike us. We already have many many capabilities. But the real threat comes from the countries who already have used their such capabilities against others. Guess who? I think you got it. Now, do we have even second strike capability against the countries situated far away from us? What if someday a big boy, strikes Pakistan to teach lesson to other big boys or just to intimidate them? They can do it, as they know we can't retaliate(same case as Japan in WW2).
My point is: there is not point in over killing a matter, while completely ignoring the other aspects.
Testing Inter Continental Missile is now a must for Pakistan(ballistic, cruise, anything will do), capable of reaching Washington. Specially when Trump is gathering all war mongers around him. That is straight and clear.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Subsonic cruises are easier to intercept than supersonics. (Detection is another story.)

A subsonic cruise missile has its advantages, which are manoeuvrability, payload and stealth.
But this manoeuvrability is unlike the ballistic case (if possible) which can prevent interception.
The stealth factor is also greatly reduced in the case of a short range SLCM against an advanced navy. There are no mountains in the ocean.

So, a short range subsonic SLCM of an old design poses no threat against our anti-missile systems and dedicated submarine killers in air and water.

What the hell are u going on about? What old design? Babur HAS stealth and no it has nothing to do with mountains...otherwise all other countries should scrap their tomahawks and other such subsonic sea launched missiles...bcuz what's the use if they are going to be detected and shot down. With a low flight trajectory and a low RCS, Babur is stealthy

Ballistic missiles can make maneuvers to evade being intercepted as well but neither cruise missile nor ballistic have a 100% guarantee of evading an interceptor. One isn't necessarily better than the other at those evasive maneuvers. It depends on their speed, programming, control surfaces, and thrust vectoring(if included). Generally speaking ballistic missiles are easier to detect and shoot down bcuz they follow a parabolic trajectory and can't really fly low like a cruise missile. So not only is it easier to detect, it's also easier to predict its trajectory and intercept it. Therefore detection is key here...if it's harder to detect than it's harder to shoot down.

This is why Pak is better off with SLCMs right now as opposed to SLBMs.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Notes & Comments:

It is apparent that Pakistan is not testing the SLCM Babur from a submarine. First, two of the three Pakistan Navy Agosta 90B submarines are undergoing an upgrade (being conducted in Pakistan with a state-owned Turkish defence contractor leading the effort). Second, the next-generation air-independent propulsion (AIP)-equipped submarines on order from China – i.e. the Hangor-class (II) – will not being reaching the Pakistan Navy until at least 2022. However, it appears that the tests are being done using a specially-made system. In 2010, MBDA had built an “instrumented model” of its SCALP Naval SLCM to test-fire the missile from underwater, “replicating submarine launch conditions”.

The long-term objective – driven by the SLCM Babur and the Harba dual-anti-ship missile (AShM) and land-attack cruise missile (SLCM) – is to build a comprehensive strategic element at-sea (from the surface and underwater). It is unclear what – if any – efforts are underway for range extension; but doing so would likely necessitate changes such as a more fuel-efficient engine, improved flight control system (e.g. using space and making room for more fuel) and reducing the missile airframe’s weight.


https://quwa.org/2018/03/29/pakistan-announces-babur-sub-launched-cruise-missile-slcm-test/

and what are you really wanting to prove here ? the tests are probably getting conducted through replicas of existing Agusta 90B sub. Same mechanism is being worked on agusta through Turkish firm, which will be ready in few months time so is this any of concern or you still believe/hope/dream infact pray that, Pakistan just cannot achieve this capability ?

 

[war&peace]

Bro Indians are not fools that they will strike us. We already have many many capabilities. But the real threat comes from the countries who already have used their such capabilities against others. Guess who? I think you got it. Now, do we have even second strike capability against the countries situated far away from us? What if someday a big boy, strikes Pakistan to teach lesson to other big boys or just to intimidate them? They can do it, as they know we can't retaliate(same case as Japan in WW2).
My point is: there is not point in over killing a matter, while completely ignoring the other aspects.
Testing Inter continental Missile is now a must for Pakistan(basaltic, cruise, anything will do), capable of reaching Washington. Specially when Trump is gathering all war mongers around him. That is straight and clear.

bhai, waday larkay kaliye bhai kaam ho raha ha fikar na kar aur zikar na kar thora wela lagay ga....

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

What the hell are u going on about? What old design?

well they cannot say much about it other than this is old design, not fired from sub, subsonic cruise missiles can be easily taken out,super sonics are real deal our Nirbhay will be the ultimate missile else others are all old crap. *Feeling much better now*

 

[deep_blue]

Stfu, yakhont is already cheaper.. even countries like Syria,Vietnam etc operate it... estimated to be around 2 million a pop.

And so called “SLCM” L mera.. you turd, Yakhont already had different launch versions.. what did you do? Beg Russians for “assembling”.

They just painted Indian flag on it.

 

[Sine Nomine]

So, a short range subsonic SLCM of an old design poses no threat against our anti-missile systems and dedicated submarine killers in air and water.

Old Fashioned?
Please Elaborate because India has yet to master that old tech,which she has even failed to master with engine being supplied from Russia.