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[Argus Panoptes]

There is no point of restoring airplanes that are 20 years old, it's waste of money.

With airplanes, it is not the time in years, but the number of flying hours, take/off landing cycles and fuel and maintenance costs that really matter for making service life decisions.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

With airplanes, it is not the time in years, but the number of flying hours, take/off landing cycles and fuel and maintenance costs that really matter for making service life decisions.

True enough. Plus the 747s in today's scenario are proverbial 'Gas-Guzzlers'. If PIA chooses to operate them, PIA will have to wind up in months!

Better that those hulks are turned into pressure-cookers or pots and pans

 

[khanboy007]

With airplanes, it is not the time in years, but the number of flying hours, take/off landing cycles and fuel and maintenance costs that really matter for making service life decisions.

exactly thats my point

or

they should replace it with something equivalent or some thing better

salvaging boeing 747 is like salvaging a capacity of 400-600 passengers from your airlines

 

[khanboy007]

There is no point of restoring airplanes that are 20 years old, it's waste of money.

yeah right bro......

an airlines founded with the help of PIA in 1985 (aka Emirates) currently operates Airbus A380's

meanwhile PIA was founded in 1946

and look at where do we stand

atleast replace them with A380's

 

[Edevelop]

List of aircrafts PIA is interested in:

History of PIA - Forum :: View topic - Details of Airbus A320 Aircraft Offered on Lease to PIA

 

[khanboy007]

List of aircrafts PIA is interested in:

History of PIA - Forum :: View topic - Details of Airbus A320 Aircraft Offered on Lease to PIA

A320 for 2 747's
like 750 passengers for 800-1200 passengers

what are they doing we are losing (1200-750 =350) 350 passengers i.e 2 complete airbus A320's

anyways atleast they are not leasing very old A320's

but im still not happy with PIA's progress (if the word progress exists in PIA's dictionary !!!!!)

 

[SQ8]

Ah.. the Khaqan Abbasi clan.. lots of money to offer.

The 320's should offer a reduction in fuel losses and savings.. and are more suited to PIA's current routes.

The 747s can live to come in some other day

 

[mehboobkz]

True enough. Plus the 747s in today's scenario are proverbial 'Gas-Guzzlers'.

Airlines go by fuel consumption per seat. jumbo is bigger but so does it accomodate 400 passengers. no wonder 1500 Jumbos have been produced so far. Called queen of the sky.

 

[SHAMK9]

atleast replace them with A380's

A380 is not for PIA, besides none of Pakistani airports can handle them. PIA has already made decision of replacing 747's with 77W's. PIA now needs to think about replacing 737-300's and a310's. Couple of a320/a321's and few a330-200's should be the options.

 

[SQ8]

Airlines go by fuel consumption per seat. jumbo is bigger but so does it accomodate 400 passengers. no wonder 1500 Jumbos have been produced so far. Called queen of the sky.

But if you are only going to be filling 180 seats.. there is little need for the other 220.

 

[Argus Panoptes]

PIA's real problem is not the type of aircraft it operates. PIA's real problem is massive over-staffing. It simply has too many employees per airplane, with many of those employees enjoying too many free perks.

 

[Pandora]

Better to buy couple of new jets rather than leasing 5-6. Leasing has no economic benefits.

 

[khanboy007]

A380 is not for PIA, besides none of Pakistani airports can handle them. PIA has already made decision of replacing 747's with 77W's. PIA now needs to think about replacing 737-300's and a310's. Couple of a320/a321's and few a330-200's should be the options.

by when would the 77W's reach PIA ??

can u kindly post pics of 77W's Thanks

or is the 777-300er ??

 

[SHAMK9]

by when would the 77W's reach PIA ??

can u kindly post pics of 77W's Thanks

or is the 777-300er ??

2015, yea, the 777-300er

Better to buy couple of new jets rather than leasing 5-6. Leasing has no economic benefits.

Airline business is different, there are lots of benefits of leasing instead of buying them, Emirates owns around 20 jets, rest are leased. They will be returned to owner when they age.

 

[khanboy007]

2015, yea, the 777-300er



Airline business is different, there are lots of benefits of leasing instead of buying them, Emirates owns around 20 jets, rest are leased. They will be returned to owner when they age.

I still remember that the first 777-200 LR (Long Range) built was in service with PIA (good times)

Boeing 777 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

they should go for the fuel efficient 777's