Pakistan Can Manufacture 90pc Drugs Locally

[Dubious]

Only some believe that.

True...

They rather have a plastic heart to pump for them than eat healthy

 

[JF-17ThunderBlock3]

True...

They rather have a plastic heart to pump for them than eat healthy

True

 

[Peshwa]

A lot of ranting on this thread. Quality medicines made in Pakistan do exist. I can tell that I have relatives in the USA that prefer to use Pakistani made medicated cremes for eczema. They say it works better than what the American doctors prescribe, much cheaper as well.


Generic pharmaceuticals are all about cost. Pakistan just devalued its currency, and is now one of the lower cost producers for a lot of things. If you follow the right chemistry, the drug is the same in USA, Israel, India or Pakistan. I agree pharmaceuticals are highly regulated which I see as a bigger hurdle.

Devalued currency only helps if you’re making everything from soup to nuts for products. If Pak is importing the API, intermediates etc, then you’re already losing out in the competitive price game. Companies have to be vertically/backward integrated to compete in the US market.

A generic means that anyone can enter the market, so the chemistry as you said is for everyone to see. A patented drug basically gives you the “recipe” for the drug, but restricts the use of the recipe until the patent expires. Once the patent expires, generic players jump in.
You’re also forgetting the competition and number of ANDA (abbreviated new drug applications aka Generic) approvals already in the market that increase competition and bring price of the product down, not to mention the new GADUFA fees for maintaining FDA approved plant on top of the cost of developing each generic which runs into millions along with a 4 year approval to commercialization period by the FDA. A massive advantage for early entrants.

It’s not as simple as you think it is from a purely commercial standpoint.

 

[namefield_empty]

Does Pakistan have legal countermeasures implemented to prevent evergreening of drug patents by Big Pharma? This alone can bring down drug prices significantly.

 

[SecularNationalist]

And what a huge shame yet you are sucking the blood of poor hospitalized patients by charging three time higher prices.

 

[ziaulislam]

Well if you really know you wouldn't be embarrassed

My aunt is a prof in a chem dept in Islamabad and they do extract distill and make compounds on demand but on a very small stage and the number of graduates (yes foreign countries use graduates to start in companies) pak uni produces should be trained at international levels to be able to do so....I am aware our graduates don't reach that level but we also have a high number of postgraduate MPhil and PhD who are jobless.....

All they need is a platform ....


Well that will come eventually but first standards.....Pakistan has zero standards the min hey upscale....I really don't understand why they don't understand the value of high standards...cutting costs sure...put robotics so you don't need to pay wage but don't compromise on standards ...This needs awhole set of brainwashing or something.....

Well sir may be i use to be doctor in a different Pakistan 4 years ago ...

 

[valkyr_96]

Question: are you saying this is the norm in the Pakistani pharma industry?

My case was of Johnson & Johnson and what was uncovered after its acquisition. I don't think that this is possible in the case of generic medicines because of the competition. I do believe this is how multinationals operate in developing countries.

This will be key. If we manufacture drugs to MHRA (UK), EMA (EU) and FDA (US) standards, we can actually start exporting good quality medication.



100% agree. Development and manufacture of drugs, is an essential industry.

Searle was working on FDA approval.

 

[Abdussamad]

Pakistan's pharma industry is actually contracting because of price controls:

“No one can force us to carry-on if our ventures are made commercially unviable. The treatment meted out to us is demeaning. Yes, it is highly frustrating and I am waiting for an opportunity to exit the sector myself.

“The market is abuzz with many others working on an exit strategy. The pressure on industrialists is becoming unbearable with margins narrowing in this country. Trading is comparatively less demanding and a lot more rewarding,” he reacted.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1476119/surgical-intervention-for-relief

 

[Dubious]

Well sir may be i use to be doctor in a different Pakistan 4 years ago ...

Dr sahab I didn't know doctors in Pakistan had their personal methods lab cooking their own meds?

 

[ziaulislam]

Dr sahab I didn't know doctors in Pakistan had their personal methods lab cooking their own meds?

Sir..Pakistan doesnt has a petrochemical base to manufacture any drugs..even India cant manufacture advance drugs that require culture like insulin

Basically we were behind but have fallen way back in last 30 years of democracy

 

[Dubious]

Sir..Pakistan doesnt has a petrochemical base to manufacture any drugs..even India cant manufacture advance drugs that require culture like insulin

Basically we were behind but have fallen way back in last 30 years of democracy

We and India can manufacture drugs that use plant extracts and synthesis is done at small scale in uni...I can assure you it is being done as my own aunt being a prof in organic chem has done so...

Extracting distilling and synthesising on small scale is not rocket science

Basically we were behind but have fallen way back in last 30 years of democracy

This I agree...we are behind but not in stone age

 

[ziaulislam]

Doctors come from the same society and many of them are corrupt to the core..they will neither work themselves nor will let anyone else

We and India can manufacture drugs that use plant extracts and synthesis is done at small scale in uni...I can assure you it is being done as my own aunt being a prof in organic chem has done so...

Extracting distilling and synthesising on small scale is not rocket science


This I agree...we are behind but not in stone age

My point is large scale manufacturing ..obviously 1940s-1980s era medicines is not rocket science.
Govt needs to step in with ToT and manufacturing as it use to back in 1950s and 1960s..and leave simple things to private sector

 

[Dubious]

Doctors come from the same society and many of them are corrupt to the core..they will neither work themselves nor will let anyone else


My point is large scale manufacturing ..obviously 1940s-1980s era medicines is not rocket science.
Govt needs to step in with ToT and manufacturing as it use to back in 1950s and 1960s..and leave simple things to private sector

I never talked abt large scale ....that is outside my knowledge and to my understanding not available in Pakistan

 

[cricketrulez]

I never talked abt large scale ....that is outside my knowledge and to my understanding not available in Pakistan

Comedy gold right there. So you extrapolated few gram synthesis capability to supplying the whole country.

Awsome.

 

[Dubious]

Comedy gold right there. So you extrapolated few gram synthesis capability to supplying the whole country.

Awsome.

Who talked about supplying the Ehle country? We are still establishing capabilities....talk about extrapolating information