Pakistan buys 13 F16 from Jordan

[Manticore]

Modifications & Armament
Mid-life Update
For a number of years the Royal Jordanian AF recognized the need to give the leased aircraft a mid-life update in the next 2 or 3 years. It was unclear for a long time whether reference was made to the MLU-program, or just to updates in general.

In January of 2004 however a LOA for an $87 million contract was signed between Jordan and Lockheed-Martin for the update of the 17 Peace Falcon II aircraft. This modification consists of enhancements to the cockpit, avionics, sensors and weapons. These upgrades also improve system reliability and supportability. Together with this upgrade this package also includes Falcon UP and Falcon STAR structural upgrades. These structural upgrades will extend the service life to 8,000 flight hours with these aircraft being able to remain in service for another 20 years. The upgrades will be performed by Turkish Aerospace Industries in its Ankara fascilities.

Armament and Stores
Main armament of the RJAF F-16s is the AIM-9 Sidewinder, although the RJAF was hoping to acquire the AIM-120 AMRAAM for a long time. On November 24th, 2004 a deal was announced in which Jordan would receive up to 50 AIM-120C missiles and associated equipment in a deal worth $39 million.

F-16 Air Forces - Jordan :: F-16.net



F-16 Units - RJAF 1st squadron :: F-16.net
F-16 Units - RJAF 2nd squadron :: F-16.net
F-16 Units - RJAF 6th squadron :: F-16.net

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so, which squadron did we get?

not true multirole squadron
2 sqn (RJAF)
Status:
Active
Version:F-16A/B block 15ADF
Although envisioned to be upgraded as well, the F-16s of 2 squadron remain unmodified. Therefore they retain their specific air defence duties without being truly multirole capable.

p.falcon2 were both adf and mlu thus making them better than p.falcon1 which are adf without mlu

the news report mentions both mlu and adf -- fingers crossed

The 13 aircraft are of F-16 A/B Block-15 and the PAF has similar aircraft in its fleet which are flying satisfactorily. The deal about 12 A models and one B model aircraft has been authenticated by the manufacturing company and the US government has also given its nod for the sale/purchase of the planes.
Well-placed defence sources told The News here the other day that the purchased aircraft were in good condition since they had attained Mid-Life Update (MLU)
They have been modified into Air Defence Fighters (ADF) versions. The Ogden Air Logistics Centre performed structural upgrades to extend the aircraft life from the designed 4,000 to 8,000 hours flying time as part of the programme. They also modified the aircraft engine bay for the upgraded Pratt and Whitney F100-220E engine. The induction of the planes will give a boost in air power to the PAF that is rendering a remarkable service in the war against terror.
PAF acquires F-16s from Jordan - thenews.com.pk

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@Rashid Mahmood

 

[MastanKhan]

Paf is becoming junkyard? Now why don't they go for super duper JF 17 ?if Jordanian reject is better than JF then god save paf.

Hi,

Gentlemen----PAF JUST GOT US A SQDRN OF " J10B's "----AMAZING ISN'T IT----we were supposedly thinking of getting them if we had the money.

It is called going with the flow----. Pakistan would have been in talks for these plane for a little while now. A 20 mil plane gives you the same bang for the 40 mil plane---you don't even need to slow down your stride to get from one to the other.

No integration issues either----. Another 2 to 3 sqdrn's of similar F16's----and paf has narrowed the gap dramatically.

This purchase confirms what I have stated earlier----there are no KILL SWITCHES IN THE F 16's


F16 Theme song for pakistani citizens:---

" There ain'nt no ticks on me
There ain't no ticks on me
There maybe ticks on all you chicks
There ain't no ticks on me ".

" There ain't no kill switch on me
There ain't no kill switch on me
There maybe be kill switch on all you dumb chicks
There ain't no kill switch on me ".

Hehehehehehhehehe----it feels good to kick some sh-it---

 

[Lil Mathew]

I think this is not a gud deal... Because according to above sources these f16 block15 OCU's are the same air defence fighter's given to Jordan during 1996-97 by USA( Peace Falcon 1).. The reasons are..

1. These f16's are not undergone MLU upgrades.. Because all 16 f16 ADF fighters in RJAF are not MLU..

2. Jordan airforce got these fighters from AMARC (storage place of out of service aircrafts).. That is at the time of contract in 1996 the fighter's compleated more than 3000 service hours and stationed in AMARC since 2004..

3. Be4 giving to RJAF these fighters undergone engine upgrade and Falcon service life improvement program (structural upgradation also not falcon star upgrade)which extends MAX service life from 4000 hrs to 8000 hrs or 20 years more life.. That is 1996 upgrade.. Already 18 years over.. Now MAXIMUM 2 years..

Compleating full service life of full 8000hrs is almost imposible as cracks will form more frequently after 3/4 of life time..
That is what PAF planned after 2 years.. New upgrade after extended full service lyf?

 

[Kompromat]

Thanks for a reasonable source @That Guy

These F-16s are most likely would be peace falcon I

Ok got it from the Article it seems these are going to be PF I A/B MLUd Think the total cost would be around $300m.

If you remember i mentioned it to you a few months back

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

Members need to realize that this is a massive news------you just increased your fire power / strike capability by 25 - 30 % at least---in just one go---. That has suddenly tilted the balance of power a little bit.

And this news comes now when iaf says that it will have issues if facing war on two fronts. Well they got bigger problems to face now---if paf goes ahead and finds itself another 40---50 more upgraded F16's---the playing field has totally changed.

And what it comes down to is----a fully integrated aircraft and weapons systems that your pilots are familiar with----you cannot put a price on that.

There is nothing like time saved in preparing for war----. If paf can get atleast 50 more of these aircraft----it would mean that they have turned the clock back by at least 5 to 8 years in their favour and put iaf in a quandry.

 

[Kompromat]

I think this is not a gud deal... Because according to above sources these f16 block15 OCU's are the same air defence fighter's given to Jordan during 1996-97 by USA( Peace Falcon 1).. The reasons are..

1. These f16's are not undergone MLU upgrades.. Because all 16 f16 ADF fighters in RJAF are not MLU..

2. Jordan airforce got these fighters from AMARC (storage place of out of service aircrafts).. That is at the time of contract in 1996 the fighter's compleated more than 3000 service hours and stationed in AMARC since 2004..

3. Be4 giving to RJAF these fighters undergone engine upgrade and Falcon service life improvement program (structural upgradation also not falcon star upgrade)which extends MAX service life from 4000 hrs to 8000 hrs or 20 years more life.. That is 1996 upgrade.. Already 18 years over.. Now MAXIMUM 2 years..

Compleating full service life of full 8000hrs is almost imposible as cracks will form more frequently after 3/4 of life time..
That is what PAF planned after 2 years.. New upgrade after extended full service lyf?

You need some water my friend.

 

[SpArK]

Very sensible purchase.

 

[Kompromat]

Hi,

Members need to realize that this is a massive news------you just increased your fire power / strike capability by 25 - 30 % at least---in just one go---. That has suddenly tilted the balance of power a little bit.

And this news comes now when iaf says that it will have issues if facing war on two fronts. Well they got bigger problems to face now---if paf goes ahead and finds itself another 40---50 more upgraded F16's---the playing field has totally changed.

And what it comes down to is----a fully integrated aircraft and weapons systems that your pilots are familiar with----you cannot put a price on that.

There is nothing like time saved in preparing for war----. If paf can get atleast 50 more of these aircraft----it would mean that they have turned the clock back by at least 5 to 8 years in their favour and put iaf in a quandry.

Destination Norway

Very sensible purchase.

More New Block-52s will be purchased too in small numbers.

 

[Zarvan]

If you remember i mentioned it to you a few months back

Before coming to Pakistan will they be upgraded and if yes to which level ?

If you remember i mentioned it to you a few months back

Well what I can't understand is why Jordan is selling us F-16 when itself is short of good Fighter Jets what the hell is going on ????????

 

[SpArK]

Destination Norway



More New Block-52s will be purchased too in small numbers.

Its the better option. Less logistics troubles operating many and familiarity with machine since decades.

 

[fatman17]

IF true, then they are a replacement for the 14 F-16's owed by the US which the USN did not release.

 

[Spring Onion]

some good news

 

[Rahil khan]

Hi,

Members need to realize that this is a massive news------you just increased your fire power / strike capability by 25 - 30 % at least---in just one go---. That has suddenly tilted the balance of power a little bit.

And this news comes now when iaf says that it will have issues if facing war on two fronts. Well they got bigger problems to face now---if paf goes ahead and finds itself another 40---50 more upgraded F16's---the playing field has totally changed.

And what it comes down to is----a fully integrated aircraft and weapons systems that your pilots are familiar with----you cannot put a price on that.

There is nothing like time saved in preparing for war----. If paf can get atleast 50 more of these aircraft----it would mean that they have turned the clock back by at least 5 to 8 years in their favour and put iaf in a quandry.

I think at least 100 vipers would be an ideal number in PAF arsenal. More than 150 Thunders plus more than couple of squadrons of latest Chinese multirole fighters in our near future....and the situation would be totally changed. And these numbers are very much realistic... What do you say sir ??

 

[Kompromat]

IF true, then they are a replacement for the 14 F-16's owed by the US which the USN did not release.

What will Jordan do?

 

[Zarvan]

What will Jordan do?

That is what I want to know Jordan itself is short of good Fighter Jets and its selling F-16 to us can't understand @BLACKEAGLE can help us out