Pakistan buys 13 F16 from Jordan

[Luftwaffe]

These F-16 Bk 15 are from Peace Falcon 1.

After the Gulf War U.S. recommenced full military relations with Jordan starting with the donation of 16 General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon(12 F-16A and 4 F-16B)in storage at the Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Center (AMARC) at Davis Monthan AFB. Deliveries commenced in 1997 and were completed in 1998.

PAF acquires F-16s from Jordan - thenews.com.pk

Never mind my post was a mess I Edited it but I am still correct.

@cb4, RJAF received them for less than billion dollars 1997-98, almost 15 years past since they have been MLUd so I think 20m+/- could be price per unit.

 

[That Guy]

How much do you think we payed ? $ 15 million each ?

Probably around that, no more than $20 million each. The fighters are already half way through their lifespan, and they still need to be upgraded to the latest version.

 

[Donatello]

Probably around that, no more than $20 million each. The fighters are already half way through their lifespan, and they still need to be upgraded to the latest version.

The news link says they are MLU-ed..??

 

[Luftwaffe]

Probably around that, no more than $20 million each. The fighters are already half way through their lifespan, and they still need to be upgraded to the latest version.

Block 42 is sufficient it can perform day/night duties effectively.

According to Article:

They have been modified into Air Defence Fighters (ADF) versions. The Ogden Air Logistics Centre performed structural upgrades to extend the aircraft life from the designed 4,000 to 8,000 hours flying time as part of the programme. They also modified the aircraft engine bay for the upgraded Pratt and Whitney F100-220E engine. The induction of the planes will give a boost in air power to the PAF that is rendering a remarkable service in the war against terror.

 

[That Guy]

The news link says they are MLU-ed..??

No, but from what I know of the Jordanian air force, the models that PAF is buying are all MLUed. As they should be, Pakistan isn't the only air force that wants to keep it's air force flying.

Block 42 is sufficient it can perform day/night duties effectively.

According to Article:

Sure, but that doesn't mean that it can't be better. PAF is prideful, they'll try to upgrade it to as much as they can afford, regardless of the capabilities that are or aren't needed.

 

[Donatello]

No, but from what I know of the Jordanian air force, the models that PAF is buying are all MLUed. As they should be, Pakistan isn't the only air force that wants to keep it's air force flying.



Sure, but that doesn't mean that it can't be better. PAF is prideful, they'll try to upgrade it to as much as they can afford, regardless of the capabilities that are or aren't needed.

MLU brings them near to BLK50 capabilities....the main being able to fire AMRAAMs....as long as the radars are the new APG68, it's all fine. That's the main thing. F-16s even without MLU are deadly A2G aircraft.

 

[Luftwaffe]

No, but from what I know of the Jordanian air force, the models that PAF is buying are all MLUed. As they should be, Pakistan isn't the only air force that wants to keep it's air force flying.

Sure, but that doesn't mean that it can't be better. PAF is prideful, they'll try to upgrade it to as much as they can afford, regardless of the capabilities that are or aren't needed.

the Block 40/42 is the improved all-day/all-weather strike variant equipped with LANTRIN pod; also unofficially designated the F-16CG/DG, the night capability gave rise to the name "Night Falcons". This block features strengthened and lengthened undercarriage for LANTIRN pods, an improved radar, and a GPS receiver. From 2002, the Block 40/42 increased the weapon range available to the aircraft including JDAM, AGM-154 JSOW, Wind-Corrected Munitions Dispense WCMD and the enhanced EGBU-27 Paveway "bunker-buster" [for USAF]. Also incorporated in this block was the addition of cockpit lighting systems compatible with Aviator's Night Vision Imaging System ANVIS equipment..Block 40/42's APG-68(V)1

F-16 Versions - F-16C/D :: F-16.net

General Dynamics F-16C/D Block 40/42 Fighting Falcon

They've got more than enough punch for PAF.

 

[saikumar]

good deal

 

[notorious_eagle]

MLU brings them near to BLK50 capabilities....the main being able to fire AMRAAMs....as long as the radars are the new APG68, it's all fine. That's the main thing. F-16s even without MLU are deadly A2G aircraft.

Not necessarily. I believe Tape 4 brings it upto Block 52 capabilities, Tape 3 brings it upto Block 42. Whatever Tape MLU these F16's have gone through, one thing you can be damn sure that they will be put through further upgrades to bring them upto Block 52 standards. PAF wants to standardize its fleet, thus its natural to put them through Tape 4 upgrades.

 

[Luftwaffe]

Paf is becoming junkyard? Now why don't they go for super duper JF 17 ?if Jordanian reject is better than JF then god save paf.

Hi if you have nothing better to contribute leave this thread...go read about iaf SEPECAT Jaguars and constant upgrades.

Not necessarily. I believe Tape 4 brings it upto Block 52 capabilities, Tape 3 brings it upto Block 42. Whatever Tape MLU these F16's have gone through, one thing you can be damn sure that they will be put through further upgrades to bring them upto Block 52 standards. PAF wants to standardize its fleet, thus its natural to put them through Tape 4 upgrades.

Northrop Grumman Electronic Systems in Linthicum Heights, MD received a $99.5 million firm-fixed-price contract for “government furnished property for the Government of Pakistan” under the F-16 Block 50/52 new aircraft and modernization program. “The procurement of 54 AN/APG-68 (V)9 Radar Systems

will be accomplished under the firm-fixed-price portion of the contract.” At this time, $49.75 million have been obligated, and work will be complete May 2010. The Headquarters Aeronautical Systems Center at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, OH issued the contract (FA8615-07-C-6033).

APG-68 (V)9 Radars for Pakistan’s F-16s (updated)

So Pakistan will have to spare and add some 25-$30m for 13 APG-V[9]

 

[Manticore]

Modifications & Armament
Mid-life Update
For a number of years the Royal Jordanian AF recognized the need to give the leased aircraft a mid-life update in the next 2 or 3 years. It was unclear for a long time whether reference was made to the MLU-program, or just to updates in general.

In January of 2004 however a LOA for an $87 million contract was signed between Jordan and Lockheed-Martin for the update of the 17 Peace Falcon II aircraft. This modification consists of enhancements to the cockpit, avionics, sensors and weapons. These upgrades also improve system reliability and supportability. Together with this upgrade this package also includes Falcon UP and Falcon STAR structural upgrades. These structural upgrades will extend the service life to 8,000 flight hours with these aircraft being able to remain in service for another 20 years. The upgrades will be performed by Turkish Aerospace Industries in its Ankara fascilities.

Armament and Stores
Main armament of the RJAF F-16s is the AIM-9 Sidewinder, although the RJAF was hoping to acquire the AIM-120 AMRAAM for a long time. On November 24th, 2004 a deal was announced in which Jordan would receive up to 50 AIM-120C missiles and associated equipment in a deal worth $39 million.

F-16 Air Forces - Jordan :: F-16.net



F-16 Units - RJAF 1st squadron :: F-16.net
F-16 Units - RJAF 2nd squadron :: F-16.net
F-16 Units - RJAF 6th squadron :: F-16.net

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so, which squadron did we get?

not true multirole squadron
2 sqn (RJAF)
Status:
Active
Version:F-16A/B block 15ADF
Although envisioned to be upgraded as well, the F-16s of 2 squadron remain unmodified. Therefore they retain their specific air defence duties without being truly multirole capable.

The 13 aircraft are of F-16 A/B Block-15 and the PAF has similar aircraft in its fleet which are flying satisfactorily. The deal about 12 A models and one B model aircraft has been authenticated by the manufacturing company and the US government has also given its nod for the sale/purchase of the planes.
Well-placed defence sources told The News here the other day that the purchased aircraft were in good condition since they had attained Mid-Life Update (MLU)

PAF acquires F-16s from Jordan - thenews.com.pk

 

[Zarvan]

ISLAMABAD: The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) has acquired one squadron of F-16 multi-role fighter aircraft from Jordan and 13 F-16s will be inducted into the service next month.



With this, the strength of PAF F-16s will reach 76. The fighter aircraft have been purchased from Jordan and they were in the use of the Royal Jordanian Air Force (RJAF).



The deal has already been finalised and inked by both the countries. The 13 aircraft are of F-16 A/B Block-15 and the PAF has similar aircraft in its fleet which are flying satisfactorily. The deal about 12 A models and one B model aircraft has been authenticated by the manufacturing company and the US government has also given its nod for the sale/purchase of the planes.



Well-placed defence sources told The News here the other day that the purchased aircraft were in good condition since they had attained Mid-Life Update (MLU) and they would be providing service for another 20 years with almost 3,000 hours on average available to them for flying.



They have been modified into Air Defence Fighters (ADF) versions. The Ogden Air Logistics Centre performed structural upgrades to extend the aircraft life from the designed 4,000 to 8,000 hours flying time as part of the programme. They also modified the aircraft engine bay for the upgraded Pratt and Whitney F100-220E engine. The induction of the planes will give a boost in air power to the PAF that is rendering a remarkable service in the war against terror.



The Chief of the Air Staff (CAS), Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafiq Butt, visited Jordan last year for pursuing the sale of the aircraft. He and officials concerned of the countries had hectic discussion about the sale/purchase and delivery deal.



The sources have declined to give the details of the amount involved in the deal but they have claimed that it has been transparent and it would be made public next month just before the delivery of the F-16s.



However, it is understood that the used planes are cost-effective and could provide service for a fairly longer period of time. Pakistan is also contemplating to acquire more used planes for the PAF from some other countries while the induction of JF-17 Thunder aircraft, co-production of Pakistan and China, e is also underway simultaneously, the sources said.
PAF acquires F-16s from Jordan - thenews.com.pk
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[Edevelop]

I don't understand why Jordan would want to sell them. They are still flying old F-5s. Why not get rid of those first ?

 

[Asian.Century]

Well I just found the link, to this great news:

PAF acquires F-16s from Jordan - thenews.com.pk

Another link:

Pakistan Air Force Purchases 13 F-16 Fighter Jets From Jordan | Pakistan Military Review

 

[mosu]

Well good news for PAF