Pakistan buys 13 F16 from Jordan

[MastanKhan]

How does this purchase "confirm" a lack of geofencing or other controls?

It would be better to say that the limitations of the new purchase are just as acceptable to PAF as limits on the old purchases of F-16s, wouldn't you say?

Hi,

Thank you--would it be prudent to say that all the air forces operating the F 16's other than the u s---accept those limits.

What I am happy about is that the " KILL SWITCH PROPAGANDA BRIGADE " is going to eat dust---that dust is going to be flying off the spinning wheels of a car that the car salesman is taking for a test drive and right into their mouths.

I have never been so excited by any news for the air force as this one. This is truly a coupe de grace.

 

[VCheng]

Hi,

Thank you--would it be prudent to say that all the air forces operating the F 16's other than the u s---accept those limits.

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Those "limits" are set at different levels for each airforce.

 

[Bratva]

Significantly, the US has acceded to persistent Pak request for AMRAAM air-to-air missiles, sidewinder missiles and M-270 multiple launch rocket systems which fall in the category of weapons which are banned from being supplied to Pakistan by any European country or the US. In order to effect the supply of AMRAAM advanced air to air missiles, the US has worked a mechanism for handing over significant numbers of these missiles to Pakistan and Jordan even though they do not fit any counter-terrorism role. The modus operandi would be to do the paper work in a manner that they indicate sale of these weapons to Jordan (or Jordan being shown as the user country) while the missiles would be supplied to Pakistan. Likewise, the latest version of sidewinder air to air missiles (AIM9X), while not falling into the category of anti-terror weapon would be declared as meant for Jordan while it would actually be supplied to the PAF. The M270 multiple launch rocket system, around 150 of which are presently deployed in Afghanistan, would form part of the inventory of supplies to Pakistan through Jordan.


US Pakistan Arms Deal | neurope.eu

 

[nangyale]

Significantly, the US has acceded to persistent Pak request for AMRAAM air-to-air missiles, sidewinder missiles and M-270 multiple launch rocket systems which fall in the category of weapons which are banned from being supplied to Pakistan by any European country or the US. In order to effect the supply of AMRAAM advanced air to air missiles, the US has worked a mechanism for handing over significant numbers of these missiles to Pakistan and Jordan even though they do not fit any counter-terrorism role. The modus operandi would be to do the paper work in a manner that they indicate sale of these weapons to Jordan (or Jordan being shown as the user country) while the missiles would be supplied to Pakistan. Likewise, the latest version of sidewinder air to air missiles (AIM9X), while not falling into the category of anti-terror weapon would be declared as meant for Jordan while it would actually be supplied to the PAF. The M270 multiple launch rocket system, around 150 of which are presently deployed in Afghanistan, would form part of the inventory of supplies to Pakistan through Jordan.


US Pakistan Arms Deal | neurope.eu

That is very exciting if true.
Can anyone shed some more light on the delivery of AIM 9X to Pakistan. I really want to know when and how many?

 

[Last Samuri]

Cost effective and stil very useful fighters the f16...

Paf wil get at least 10 and 15 years out of these fighters. They are the best in paf in overall capability..even ahead of the new but stil infant unproven unused thunder.

73 f16s sounds a lot better than forty.

 

[SHAMK9]

When will these jets be seen bombarding talibastards?

 

[VCheng]

Significantly, the US has acceded to persistent Pak request for AMRAAM air-to-air missiles, sidewinder missiles and M-270 multiple launch rocket systems which fall in the category of weapons which are banned from being supplied to Pakistan by any European country or the US. In order to effect the supply of AMRAAM advanced air to air missiles, the US has worked a mechanism for handing over significant numbers of these missiles to Pakistan and Jordan even though they do not fit any counter-terrorism role. The modus operandi would be to do the paper work in a manner that they indicate sale of these weapons to Jordan (or Jordan being shown as the user country) while the missiles would be supplied to Pakistan. Likewise, the latest version of sidewinder air to air missiles (AIM9X), while not falling into the category of anti-terror weapon would be declared as meant for Jordan while it would actually be supplied to the PAF. The M270 multiple launch rocket system, around 150 of which are presently deployed in Afghanistan, would form part of the inventory of supplies to Pakistan through Jordan.


US Pakistan Arms Deal | neurope.eu

That would be a direct violation of US laws and therefore unlikely.

 

[Darth Vader]

Destination Norway



More New Block-52s will be purchased too in small numbers.

not till RNoAF gets f 35 or some other bird

 

[That Guy]

the Block 40/42 is the improved all-day/all-weather strike variant equipped with LANTRIN pod; also unofficially designated the F-16CG/DG, the night capability gave rise to the name "Night Falcons". This block features strengthened and lengthened undercarriage for LANTIRN pods, an improved radar, and a GPS receiver. From 2002, the Block 40/42 increased the weapon range available to the aircraft including JDAM, AGM-154 JSOW, Wind-Corrected Munitions Dispense WCMD and the enhanced EGBU-27 Paveway "bunker-buster" [for USAF]. Also incorporated in this block was the addition of cockpit lighting systems compatible with Aviator's Night Vision Imaging System ANVIS equipment..Block 40/42's APG-68(V)1

F-16 Versions - F-16C/D :: F-16.net

General Dynamics F-16C/D Block 40/42 Fighting Falcon

They've got more than enough punch for PAF.

Okay, but that still doesn't mean they won't be upgraded. They got more than enough punch for now, but they need to be as future proof as possible.

 

[TOPGUN]

Jordan has around 34 F5's to be replaced in next few years. They will go for a cheap option or eda... That does open up some links to Pakistani new trade... Sell JF17, deliver engineers, train pilots... Unless uncle wants to stop that and gives free F16 block42 or Saudi ruin the deal like we had with Egypt by providing billions to buy mig29... Everyone loves KSA... Trust me. You are so wrong.



Long time no see Everything ok?

Hello Munir bro, hru ? hope you and the family are well , yes I been around but not as much yes every thing is fine with the grace of ALLAH .

 

[Dazzler]

they use a mix fleet of ADF and MLUs, i suspect paf is getting the latter.

F-16 Air Forces - Jordan :: F-16.net

 

[Donatello]

Hi,

Thank you--would it be prudent to say that all the air forces operating the F 16's other than the u s---accept those limits.

What I am happy about is that the " KILL SWITCH PROPAGANDA BRIGADE " is going to eat dust---that dust is going to be flying off the spinning wheels of a car that the car salesman is taking for a test drive and right into their mouths.

I have never been so excited by any news for the air force as this one. This is truly a coupe de grace.

Next step should be AIM9X.

 

[Cyberian]

Ma'Shah'Allah. Thank you, the Hashemite Kingdom.

 

[Lil Mathew]

This new move is against the PAF's proposed policy of maintaining a technical edge (or parity ) against numerical superiority of IAF.. That is PAF must required new platforms like J10 against IAF's aggressive modernisation..
Mirage 2k upgrading to Mirage 2000-5 mk2 std(top end varient of m2k)..
Mig 29s to Mig 29SMT/UPG (Top end varient of mig 29)..
Let alone su30mki, super su,rafel etc..
The problem here is the new acquisition eliminates the possibility of new platforms in Paf near future.. Because the buying of old f16s save some initial capital but requires massive upgrades and high maintanance cost..

 

[Pakistanisage]

Why would anyone want to buy 3rd hand planes?

Why does Iranian Air Force has Jets from the 1950's;

Maybe you should join the 21st century before commenting.