Pakistan briefs P-5 about security tensions on LoC, IB

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

No one has made fun of your armymen but the policies your contries follow or the dilema people live in. Nothing more nothing less.

Discussions of national policies need to follow a civilized and objective path as well - that is not what the OP (and many other Indian posters on other threads) have done with childish and inflammatory thread titles and interpretations of Pakistani policy.

The rational, civilized and mature discussion on this thread should have been over the rationale behind Pakistan's decision to raise the issue of LoC/IB ceasefire violations in the UN and with other international partners, and not some "wack-off fest" channeling the hate-mongering and irrational mindset of those who frequent the Bharat RatShit site

 

[acid rain]

What would be a good play of cards for Pakistan in your view?

Should have stayed away from hurriat and when pointed out - shouldn't have made a song and a dance about it. I will give u a hint - there was decent praise in india for aziz's statement when he said that talking to hurriat might have been a mistake. But he rescinded on it when he was criticized.

Modi and nawaz were actually scheduled to meet in NY.

No point in trying to needle or test a new first time prime minister - who apparently was anti pakistan but became pro during swearing in. At least 4 years of future diplomatic possibility has gone down the drain.

Don't bring your internal mess to the border to take away people's attention.

 

[VCheng]

Should have stayed away from hurriat and when pointed out - shouldn't have made a song and a dance about it. I'love give u a hint - there was decent praise in india for aziz's statement when he said that talking to hurriat might have been a mistake. Modi and nawaz were actually scheduled to meet in NY. No point in trying to needle or test a new prime minister - who apparently was anti pakistan but became pro during swearing in. At least 4 years of future diplomatic possibility has gone down the drain.

Don't bring your internal mess to the border to take away people's attention.

Your last line applies to both sides for the past several decades, and that makes what you posted before that quite impossible.

 

[jbond197]

Pakistanis forum members are complaining as if Indians are the only ones who tweak thread titles. Check it out this xymt guy windy riaz haq and many more keep opening troll threads with tweaked news titles or based on fake data. No report works on any such thread which is quite understandable this being a Pakistani forum.

 

[JustAnotherWomen]

Discussions of national policies need to follow a civilized and objective path as well - that is not what the OP (and many other Indian posters on other threads) have done with childish and inflammatory thread titles and interpretations of Pakistani policy.

The rational, civilized and mature discussion on this thread should have been over the rationale behind Pakistan's decision to raise the issue of LoC/IB ceasefire violations in the UN and with other international partners, and not some "wack-off fest" channeling the hate-mongering and irrational mindset of those who frequent the Bharat RatShit site

It always takes too to tango.

What if i told you when the think tanks over here call indians as pigs
What if i told you people out here have "rot in hell" replies for logical questions
What if i told you people when run out of arguments end up making insults.

It always takes two tango my agnostic friend it always takes two

 

[Windjammer]

When a boy in a class has an attitude problem then the teacher informs the boys parents before teacher takes action...... hence the naughty Indian kid should get ready for some serious a$$ whopping.

 

[SanjeevaniButi]

What are they going to talk about? On how to give freedom to Azad Kashmir?

About why Pakistani aid did not reach Kashmir during floods

 

[acid rain]

Your last line applies to both sides for the past several decades, and that makes what you posted before that quite impossible.

That's just your imagination. We don't have an army that is constantly trying to run down the civilian government.

 

[third eye]

What would be a good play of cards for Pakistan in your view?

For a start its how Pak has projected & placed itself both internally & internationally.

Since 1980's the raison d'etre for Pakistan has been Af. Zia & Mush both tried to cash in on this with disastrous consequences internally within the nation & this reflected how the nation spoke & thought of itself . The result is visible daily in Pak with blasts , suicide bombers & drones.

Even now one reads post by Pak posters like - ' wait till US leaves Af".. Can this be how a nation is run ? The fundamentalists now have a strangle hold on the nation - some were robes while others are in Khaki.

Next is Nuke power. Fine the nation has nukes, so what others have them too. In any case have the nukes helped fight the enemy within who is tearing the nation apart ?

Words like ' non state actors' may calm nerves within Pak , to the world is shows complete collapse of the basics that weld a nation - state control.

Now, add Abbotabad. How poorly it has shown Pakistan can be guaged by the fact that besides China ( who has its own reason to tolerate Pak) no one wants to believe a spoken word that comes form Pak.

The nation loves cricket, how humiliating must it be when no one wants to play pak at home .

The nature of the Pak state have evolved in a manner that the PA & ISI have a pivotal role, not the best option but can be lived with if they find some other reason to stay relevant besides animosity to India.

Its for Pakistanis to decide their future as the world is moving on while Pak is still fighting the last war .

 

[jbond197]

When a boy in a class has an attitude problem then the teacher informs the boys parents before teacher takes action...... hence the naughty Indian kid should get ready for some serious a$$ whopping.

Ok so finally are you happy now? or you need more shoulders to cry on?? May be African Union will work for you. Try your luck there till then we will continue some serious @ss whooping on the border.

 

[Star Wars]

@Icarus Certain members of your country have the freewill to say anything they want and get away with it without getting banned form the moderators . And they go to rather despicable levels the response you see in first couple pages is nothing but folks hitting back .

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Do you think Pakistan's efforts to unilaterally seek third-party intervention will bear fruit given the Simla Agreement?

The Simla Agreement does not preclude third-party intervention, and it reiterates the commitment of both nations to "their international obligations", which includes the commitment of both nations to the UN and UN Resolutions, as members of the UN. In fact, given that it was India that first raised the Kashmir issue in the UN, her acceptance of UN mediation is a fact.

That the Indian government no longer wants third-party mediation is a separate issue, but the Simla Agreement at least does not negate/prevent the UN Resolutions or UN mediation/intervention.

 

[Asian.Century]

Expose India and its Democracy as much as possible...India is now becoming isolated...

 

[Green Arrow]

There is nothing wrong to raise your legitimate concerns on international forums

 

[VCheng]

For a start its how Pak has projected & placed itself both internally & internationally.

Since 1980's the raison d'etre for Pakistan has been Af. Zia & Mush both tried to cash in on this with disastrous consequences internally within the nation & this reflected how the nation spoke & thought of itself . The result is visible daily in Pak with blasts , suicide bombers & drones.

Even now one reads post by Pak posters like - ' wait till US leaves Af".. Can this be how a nation is run ? The fundamentalists now have a strangle hold on the nation - some were robes while others are in Khaki.

Next is Nuke power. Fine the nation has nukes, so what others have them too. In any case have the nukes helped fight the enemy within who is tearing the nation apart ?

Words like ' non state actors' may calm nerves within Pak , to the world is shows complete collapse of the basics that weld a nation - state control.

Now, add Abbotabad. How poorly it has shown Pakistan can be guaged by the fact that besides China ( who has its own reason to tolerate Pak) no one wants to believe a spoken word that comes form Pak.

The nation loves cricket, how humiliating must it be when no one wants to play pak at home .

The nature of the Pak state have evolved in a manner that the PA & ISI have a pivotal role, not the best option but can be lived with if they find some other reason to stay relevant besides animosity to India.

Its for Pakistanis to decide their future as the world is moving on while Pak is still fighting the last war .

I honestly cannot find much fault with what you have said.

The Simla Agreement does not preclude third-party intervention, and it reiterates the commitment of both nations to "their international obligations", which includes the commitment of both nations to the UN and UN Resolutions, as members of the UN. In fact, given that it was India that first raised the Kashmir issue in the UN, her acceptance of UN mediation is a fact.

That the Indian government no longer wants third-party mediation is a separate issue, but the Simla Agreement at least does not negate/prevent the UN Resolutions or UN mediation/intervention.

The Simla Agreement clearly binds both countries to resolve ALL their disputes BILATERALLY, with third party intervention possible ONLY if both agree. There is no way around this short of abrogating the Agreement.